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Round 2: Whom to pick at #32 and #46

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Re: Round 2: Whom to pick at #32 and #46 

Post#101 » by nate33 » Thu Jun 28, 2012 7:50 pm

Yes, per 40. I'll fix that
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Re: Round 2: Whom to pick at #32 and #46 

Post#102 » by 7-Day Dray » Thu Jun 28, 2012 7:54 pm

Quincy Miller is one of the slowest prospects in the draft, and his skill set is overrated. I don't think he has a true position either. But I'd definitely take him if he fell to our pick, even over Crowder since I'm wary of prospects like him.
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Re: Round 2: Whom to pick at #32 and #46 

Post#103 » by nate33 » Thu Jun 28, 2012 8:07 pm

7-Day Dray wrote:Quincy Miller is one of the slowest prospects in the draft, and his skill set is overrated. I don't think he has a true position either. But I'd definitely take him if he fell to our pick, even over Crowder since I'm wary of prospects like him.

Here is how he stacks up physically against the other swing men in his draft class:

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Name              HTnoSH   Wgt  Span     Reach    Mvert Aglty  Sprint
Quincy Acy        6'6.5"   224  7'2.75"  8'10.5"  37    10.48  3.28   
Kim English       6'4.5"   192  6'6.5"   8'2"     36.5  10.59  3.33   
JaMychal Green    6'8"     217  7'2.25"  8'10.5"  32.5  10.63  3.38   
Tony Wroten       6'4.75"  203  6'9"     8'5"     35.5  10.75  3.24   
Moe Harkless      6'7.25"  207  7'0"     8'6.5"   37    10.87  3.25   
Jeff Taylor       6'6"     213  6'6.25"  8'5.5"   40    10.87  3.29   
Harrison Barnes   6'7"     228  6'11.25" 8'5.5"   39.5  10.93  3.16   
Kevin Murphy      6'5"     194  6'6.75"  8'3"     36.5  10.97  3.42   
Jeremy Lamb       6'4"     179  6'11"    8'6"     38    10.98  3.25   
Draymond Green    6'5.75"  236  7'1.25"  8'9"     33    11.01  3.4   
Quincy Miller     6'8.75"  219  7'1.25"  8'9"     36    11.05  3.48   
Darius Miller     6'6"     233  6'9"     8'5"     37    11.34  3.31   
Drew Gordon       6'8"     239  6'11.5"  8'7.5"   34    11.35  3.49   
Tony Mitchell     6'4.75"  213  6'9.5"   8'7"     39    11.39  3.33   
William Buford    6'4"     215  6'9.5"   8'6"     32.5  11.4   3.43   
Khris Middleton   6'6.75"  216  6'10.75" 8'7"     31    11.45  3.47   
Robbie Hummel     6'7.25"  218  6'8.5"   8'6"     30    11.56  3.41   
Hollis Thompson   6'6.75"  206  6'9.5"   8'6.5"   36.5  11.72  3.38   
Tony Mitchell     6'5.25"  216  6'10"    8'4"     40    11.72  3.47   
Michael Kidd-Gilch6'5.75"  233  7'0"     8'8.5"   35.5  11.77  3.18   
Terrence Ross     6'6"     197  6'7.25"  8'4.5"   37.5  11.78  3.28   
Bernard James     6'8.75"  230  7'3"     9'0.5"   32.5  11.84  3.4   
Andrew Nicholson  6'8.5"   234  7'4"     8'11"    30.5  11.89  3.67   
Will Barton       6'5"     174  6'9.75"  8'6.5"   34    12.5   3.6   

These are ranked in order by lane agility. He is middle of the pack in lane agility, and max vertical, and near the bottom in full court sprint. He is the 5th tallest in standing reach with all the guys ahead of him projecting as 4's rather than 3's.

Interestingly, he surpasses MKG in lane agility and max vertical (though MKG destroys him in the full court sprint).
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Re: Round 2: Whom to pick at #32 and #46 

Post#104 » by Ruzious » Thu Jun 28, 2012 8:30 pm

Speaking of which, his fellow Quincy and teammate, Quincy Earl killed it on the drills and was - imo - the best college player on that Baylor team - and he's a tremendous energy guy. If anyone deserves to get drafted, it's him. And he will help an NBA team with his pure hustle and energy.
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Re: Round 2: Whom to pick at #32 and #46 

Post#105 » by Chocolate City Jordanaire » Thu Jun 28, 2012 8:42 pm

Ruzious wrote:Speaking of which, his fellow Quincy and teammate, Quincy Earl killed it on the drills and was - imo - the best college player on that Baylor team - and he's a tremendous energy guy. If anyone deserves to get drafted, it's him. And he will help an NBA team with his pure hustle and energy.

Didn't post it but I had the thought earlier today that Quincy Acy may be better than Perry Jones III.

Thought about guys like Stephane Lasme and Jarvis Varnado and decided not to post, as they are similar talents.

So much comes down to luck, which team drafts a player and how high in the draft the selection is made.
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Re: Round 2: Whom to pick at #32 and #46 

Post#106 » by Jajwanda » Thu Jun 28, 2012 9:26 pm

L.A. would be very interested in buying that 32 if Miller is still around.
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Re: Round 2: Whom to pick at #32 and #46 

Post#107 » by Nivek » Thu Jun 28, 2012 9:41 pm

nate33 wrote:I'm a little surprised to see Quincy Miller slipping to the 2nd round in the mocks. He's got great length, adequate quickness, and he had a pretty good statistical year for a freshman. He averaged 17 and 9 per 40 while shooting shooting 35% from 3 and 81% from the line. The FT% is particularly encouraging for a freshman and indicative of a reliable, consistent shooting stroke. His team finished 30-8 against a pretty solid schedule. Also, he has the potential to improve athletically as his ACL heals.

If he's there at #32, I'd be sorely tempted to take him instead of Crowder - especially given the general disinterest in Crowder. We might be able to buy a pick in the 40's and get Crowder too.


I agree. In YODA, I have him as a late 1st round pick. If he's sitting there at 32, I'd consider him. Especially if I could buy another pick and get Crowder.
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Re: Round 2: Whom to pick at #32 and #46 

Post#108 » by AWIZZINGBULLET » Fri Jun 29, 2012 2:05 am

WashWiz54 wrote:Kim English if we MKG/Barnes in the 1st, Khris Middleton if we go Beal in the 1st.

I also like Drew Gordon but I think we're done adding bigs to the roster (so I hope).


Khris Middleton has been my guy in the second too (behind John Jenkins had the Wizards selected a SF).

I also wanted Drew Gordon for rebounding, but that was before the Wizards traded away the 46th pick.

Great minds thinking alike?
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Re: Round 2: Whom to pick at #32 and #46 

Post#109 » by AWIZZINGBULLET » Fri Jun 29, 2012 2:14 am

closg00 wrote:Here is Ford's take

32. Washington Wizards

Scott Machado | PG | Iona

Some in Washington aren't totally sure whether John Wall is really a point guard. Machado, however, is the second-best pure point guard in the draft. He lacks Wall's athletic abilities, but some believe he sees the floor as well or better than Kendall Marshall. He'd be a very nice get for the Wizards at 32
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Ford had Crowder being available at pick #46 :evil:
http://insider.espn.go.com/nba/draft201 ... -9-round-2


This is the dumbest thing ever. What the hell else would Wall be seen as---- a shooting guard?
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Re: Round 2: Whom to pick at #32 and #46 

Post#110 » by AWIZZINGBULLET » Fri Jun 29, 2012 2:20 am

I'm going to say Khris Middleton or Jeffrey Taylor.
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Re: Round 2: Whom to pick at #32 and #46 

Post#111 » by long suffrin' boulez fan » Fri Jun 29, 2012 2:29 am

Jeffrey Taylor, Quincy Miller, Doron Lamb
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Re: Round 2: Whom to pick at #32 and #46 

Post#112 » by daSwami » Fri Jun 29, 2012 2:37 am

Satoransky's my guy!
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Re: Round 2: Whom to pick at #32 and #46 

Post#113 » by willbcocks » Fri Jun 29, 2012 2:40 am

Well, whatever. Not my choice, but EG's not bad in the second round. I wanted Quincy Miller.
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Re: Round 2: Whom to pick at #32 and #46 

Post#114 » by bulletproof_32 » Fri Jun 29, 2012 3:57 am

daSwami wrote:Satoransky's my guy!


Is he shrine worthy?
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Re: Round 2: Whom to pick at #32 and #46 

Post#115 » by WashWiz54 » Fri Jun 29, 2012 4:53 am

AWIZZINGBULLET wrote:
WashWiz54 wrote:Kim English if we MKG/Barnes in the 1st, Khris Middleton if we go Beal in the 1st.

I also like Drew Gordon but I think we're done adding bigs to the roster (so I hope).


Khris Middleton has been my guy in the second too (behind John Jenkins had the Wizards selected a SF).

I also wanted Drew Gordon for rebounding, but that was before the Wizards traded away the 46th pick.

Great minds thinking alike?


:lol: I think so! Gordon went undrafted so maybe we can get a look at him in SL?

Middleton will be a player in this league, and I'm glad someone else saw it too. He was in a pretty unfavorable situation this past season and his draft stock fell because of it. He landed in Detroit which is SF heavy but I assume he'll be getting minutes behind Stuckey at SG.

Actually both my guys (Middleton and English) fell to Detroit. Definitely a team I'll be keeping an eye on.

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