Official Speculation Thread (Pt. XXVIII: Offseason Edition)

arsenal6106 · Post #1081 » by **arsenal6106** » Thu Jun 28, 2012 7:59 pm

arkknight1988 wrote:dwight's "inner circle" sounds like a bunch of morons. they make it sound like dwight doesn't even want to play basketball anywhere

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Post #1082 » by **ChosenSavior** » Thu Jun 28, 2012 8:00 pm

arkknight1988 wrote:dwight's "inner circle" sounds like a bunch of morons. they make it sound like dwight doesn't even want to play basketball anywhere

So true... :lol:

glennathan · Post #1083 » by **glennathan** » Thu Jun 28, 2012 8:02 pm

This is from HoopsWorld so take it with a grain of salt but saw this on there

Memphis May Trade #25 for Young Veteran
June 28, 2012
There will be several major debates in the Grizzlies’ draft war room, and the discussions won’t solely be about which player to select near the bottom of the first round.

Internal talks about trading their 25th overall pick for a young veteran player have entered the forefront of the Grizzlies’ draft preparations.

via Ronald Tillery of the The Commercial Appeal

Optimus_Steel · Post #1084 » by **Optimus_Steel** » Thu Jun 28, 2012 8:03 pm

YANKE3 wrote:
Evan Dunlap ‏@BQRMagic
Bill Ingram says Dwight's stopped talking to Fegan, Magic ownership against a trade: http://www.hoopsworld.com/nba2-trouble- ... ando-again

No one reads anymore? The article says they stop talking back during the trade deadline...months ago. It mentions nothing recent, thanks alot twitter!

gp123 · Post #1085 » by **gp123** » Thu Jun 28, 2012 8:03 pm

The Other Ankle · Post #1086 » by **The Other Ankle** » Thu Jun 28, 2012 8:03 pm

Darth Magic wrote:
The Other Ankle wrote:Funny how many fans and pseudo-insiders misread the rule about trading first round picks... You can trade your first round pick every year if you want to. You just can't trade yourself out of future firsts in consecutive years. It never matters what you did with last year's pick.

You can trade as many of your own firsts as you like as long as you retain some 1st for some team at least every other year. The rule was put in place to keep short-sighted owners from ruining their teams indefinitely in one transaction.

So Orlando is perfectly free to trade it's pick for any reason. But I think most of us want to see an actual selection tonight, right?

I was told that the new CBA has changed it. So we have to make the pick but we can trade the rights to the player

Darth, you were told wrong. This is an exact example of what I am saying about those who get this rule confused and yet claim to be knowledgable about it. The rule was not changed in the new CBA. This is from Larry Coon's current FAQ on the 2011 CBA:

"Teams are restricted from trading away future first round draft picks in consecutive years. This is known as the "Ted Stepien Rule." Stepien owned the Cavs from 1980-83, and made a series of bad trades (such as the 1982 trade mentioned above) that cost the Cavs several years' first round picks. As a result of Stepien's ineptitude, teams are now prevented from making trades which might leave them without a first round pick in consecutive future years.

The Stepien rule applies only to future first round picks. For example, if this is the 2011-12 season, then a team can trade its 2012 first round pick without regard to whether they had traded their 2011 pick, since their 2011 pick is no longer a future pick. But they can't trade away both their 2012 and 2013 picks, since both are future picks. Teams sometimes work around this rule by trading first round picks in alternate years."

The interpretation that we would somehow need to pick a player, and then trade his rights would only apply if we had traded away our 2014 1st already, which is not the case.

gp123 · Post #1087 » by **gp123** » Thu Jun 28, 2012 8:05 pm

oops, I think I misread your "point" sorry.

MoMM · Post #1088 » by **MoMM** » Thu Jun 28, 2012 8:05 pm

Young veteran could be JJ, but i wouldnt trade him for #25.

The Real Dalic · Post #1089 » by **The Real Dalic** » Thu Jun 28, 2012 8:06 pm

Just 3 hours.

Noonskadoodle · Post #1090 » by **Noonskadoodle** » Thu Jun 28, 2012 8:08 pm

glennathan wrote:
Noonskadoodle wrote:Talks about Al Horford being traded to the Bobcats for #2...that came out of nowhere.

Link?

http://www.rantsports.com/courtcrusades ... um=twitter

The latest NBA rumors out there are focusing on the Atlanta Hawks and Al Horford. The latest rumor has Horford headed to the Charlotte Bobcats for the second pick in the 2012 NBA Draft. This would help the Hawks cut some salary and they would pick up a cheap replacement for Horford.

I think this deal would make a lot of sense for both teams. The Hawks are stuck in basketball hell, as they have no chance to win a title with the roster. If you move Horford and then trade Josh Smith for picks, you clear up some roster space to fill with new picks. Amnesty Joe Johnson and you take a money hit, but you also clear up a new wave of talent to take over.

This works for the Bobcats, as they would get an All-Star center. There is no guarantee the guy that they take with the second pick ever becomes an All-Star. With the moves they have had this offseason, they might just scare a couple of teams in the Eastern Conference. Adding Horford at least gives them a quality post player under control.

The Bobcats are apparently entertaining five offers for the second pick, but I think this could be the best of the bunch. You get a young center on reasonable contract. He is an All-Star type guy and gives you desperately needed front court help. The Hawks get younger and cheaper. Win-win for both teams if you ask me.

OrlChamps2030 · Post #1091 » by **OrlChamps2030** » Thu Jun 28, 2012 8:08 pm

J-Rich is only good with an elite distributing PG. Period.

Skin · Post #1092 » by **Skin** » Thu Jun 28, 2012 8:11 pm

Dwight just wants to win a championship.

Skin · Post #1093 » by **Skin** » Thu Jun 28, 2012 8:11 pm

Zmill wrote:J-Rich is only good with an elite distributing PG. Period.

That is 100% right.

Post #1094 » by **FFBlitzace** » Thu Jun 28, 2012 8:12 pm

Skin wrote:Dwight just wants to win a championship.

...with a "cool" team.

rshepard1985 · Post #1095 » by **rshepard1985** » Thu Jun 28, 2012 8:12 pm

<-----Getting the feeling we're going to draft at #19 and nothing else happens tonight.

toquito · Post #1096 » by **toquito** » Thu Jun 28, 2012 8:14 pm

rshepard1985 wrote:<-----Getting the feeling we're going to draft at #19 and nothing else happens tonight.

Yeah i'd bet money on that

MagicTownBaller · Post #1097 » by **MagicTownBaller** » Thu Jun 28, 2012 8:15 pm

Skin wrote:Dwight just wants to win a championship.

While being in a big market. I don't get how you can "want to win" and then go to the Nets. It just doesn't make sense.

IGotDaMagicInMe · Post #1098 » by **IGotDaMagicInMe** » Thu Jun 28, 2012 8:16 pm

MagicTownBaller wrote:
Skin wrote:Dwight just wants to win a championship.

While being in a big market. I don't get how you can "want to win" and then go to the Nets. It just doesn't make sense.

doesnt want to be on the lakers though

MagicFanGilley · Post #1099 » by **MagicFanGilley** » Thu Jun 28, 2012 8:17 pm

rshepard1985 wrote:<-----Getting the feeling we're going to draft at #19 and nothing else happens tonight.

Same here, I'm disappointed because I wanted something to happen.

OrlChamps2030 · Post #1100 » by **OrlChamps2030** » Thu Jun 28, 2012 8:19 pm

I've said it on here a few times before; Nets are going to be HUGE in Brooklyn, especially in their inaugural season.

A contending Brooklyn Nets team could end up becoming the most popular team in the NBA. Dwight isn't dumb.