Waiters?

[Triumph36]

6'3" SGs are not successful in this league, period. Especially when paired with another player in the backcourt who is about the same height.

Really? He's about the same size as Dwayne Wade and Mitch Richmond, two of the best shooting guards ever. Anyways, I'm out of here, going to check out realcavsfans, have fun ripping the guy too shreds.

lollll

wade isn't comparable at all

but okay.

[fart]

an hour later, I am still in shock. this is why we will never have a championship team. unbelievable.

[Icness]

Y'all are acting like we drafted Granville Waiters. This guy was a big-time scorer in arguably the toughest defensive conference in basketball. What was the most common complaint about the Cavs last year--inability to create shots and finish plays. That's all this guy does. Drummond couldn't consistently score in the same league and has questionable motivation, plus he's redundant with Thompson. Arguing for him over Waiters just doesn't make sense to me.

The Zeller deal is interesting. I like the concept of getting quality over quantity but not sure Zeller is the right guy. Like it more for Dallas, they need lots of young bodies.

[AnaheimRoyale]

Either a home run, or a gigantic disaster.

[Baseline Runner]

Whats with these guys reading comprehension skills? I don't even know why I post here. Some troll said 6'4" guards are NEVER successful. I bring up two that were successful, Dwayne Wade and Mitch Richmond. Nowhere did I compare Waiters to Dwade. Go back to school and learn to read.

[Baseline Runner]

Don't know what to think about the Zeller trade. A lot of the guys I wanted with #24 were already off the table (White, Sullinger, T Jones).

[tidho]

Either a home run, or a gigantic disaster.

Is it too soon to vote?

[kd35sneighbor]

Fine, 2 out of what? 300 undersized shooting guards in NBA history have been successful. Nice. Good chance for Waiters to be as good as those guys for sure.

[Triumph36]

Whats with these guys reading comprehension skills? I don't even know why I post here. Some troll said 6'4" guards are NEVER successful. I bring up two that were successful, Dwayne Wade and Mitch Richmond. Nowhere did I compare Waiters to Dwade. Go back to school and learn to read.

Wade is successful because of his athleticism. Waiters does not have said athleticism, ergo it doesn't **** matter how small Wade is.

But size doesn't matter! If Wade can do it anyone can!!!!

[Baseline Runner]

Fine, 2 out of what? 300 undersized shooting guards in NBA history have been successful. Nice. Good chance for Waiters to be as good as those guys for sure.

Well Westbrook is 6'3", tons of dudes like Ben Gordon. There are dozens that have been pretty successful at the 6'3" to 6'5" at the two guard. You want to talk about his game that is one thing, but keep the worrying about 1 or 2 inches to your bedroom

[gflem]

Y'all are acting like we drafted Granville Waiters. This guy was a big-time scorer in arguably the toughest defensive conference in basketball. What was the most common complaint about the Cavs last year--inability to create shots and finish plays. That's all this guy does. Drummond couldn't consistently score in the same league and has questionable motivation, plus he's redundant with Thompson. Arguing for him over Waiters just doesn't make sense to me.

The Zeller deal is interesting. I like the concept of getting quality over quantity but not sure Zeller is the right guy. Like it more for Dallas, they need lots of young bodies.

C'mon Ice, you cant really say TT and Drummond would be redundant. Sure neither can shoot FT's, but Drummond is much bigger and plays a different position. Plus, his ceiling is much, much higher. I know they score in much the same way, but how many times did TT get his shot stuffed in his face because he lacked the strength to throw it down on somebody? Too many times to count. I doubt that happens anywhere as much with Drummond.
Comparing Drummond with Waiters makes sense, both players were there. Keep in mind I have been on record as saying I didnt want Drummond at 4, but I could understand the team taking that chance. To me Waiters seems like a dime a dozen volume scoring SG. I hope he proves me wrong though.

[kd35sneighbor]

Westbrook doesn't guard other SGs. Ben Gordon is successful enough for you? Sorry but when I have a 4th pick I make sure the player I pick has a higher potential than Ben freaking Gordon. Don't get me wrong, I want the Cavs to succeed as much as anybody but this is not the direction I expected them to go in. I wanted them to rise as a challenger to the Heat, but looks like they will be a pretender.

[Baseline Runner]

So who would of been your choice at #4 (trading down is not an option since we don't know if that was an option on the table)?

[Niko23]

Did any analyst, mock, executive, have Waiters going #4? Grant must be really smart

[BossHoggin]

Did any analyst, mock, executive, have Waiters going #4? Grant must be really smart

Dr Mufasa did. Some mock did too.

[Baseline Runner]

Apparently the some of the advance stats had him pegged as the second or third best player in the draft behind Davis and MKG. Also I think Hollinger said that of the 15 or so swingmen who scored as highly as Waiters in his advance stats in the past 10 years, only one didn't pan out (Josh Childress). The rest have all been all-stars are on the verge of being an all-star (like Rudy Gay).

[Icness]

Either a home run, or a gigantic disaster.

This speaks to what fans want as a draft philosophy. Would you rather have a team take a chance at a big-time boom/bust or would you rather them take a safer player with a lower ceiling?

IMO where a team picks and how they are built matters a lot in that argument, no right or wrong answer across the board.

I'm just happy the Cavs tried to add some offense. Way too many times I saw a team that couldn't get good shots and couldn't make shots I see other teams making all the time. Instead of recreating the boring, moderately successful Fratello years, the Cavs are going to actually try and outscore someone instead of trying to hold them to less points. As a fan of both the team and the game, that's what I want.

[zol2332]

Apparently the some of the advance stats had him pegged as the second or third best player in the draft behind Davis and MKG. Also I think Hollinger said that of the 15 or so swingmen who scored as highly as Waiters in his advance stats in the past 10 years, only one didn't pan out (Josh Childress). The rest have all been all-stars are on the verge of being an all-star (like Rudy Gay).

I'm coming around as well. We were up **** creek, so we took the best fluid scorer in the draft. He is a touch short, but at 6'4 built like a tank at 225, he won't get backed down by bigger guards. He's actually an explosive athlete. Not sure why I'm hearing that he's not. He's actually decievingly so. Check out some youtube clips. The dude can kiss the rim.

[BillyGM]

As a Raptors fan I wanted Dion Waiters, thought we made the promise when heard that we might try to use your pick to get him but oh well. You getting a very good guy, he has got swag and is alpha male. Is very good at getting to the rack, has very rare body type, was forsed to 6th man but that just improved him as a man. His coach said he is the most NBA ready guard he has ever coached and it's Boeheim. So be happy I'm really jealous.

[Rise Against]

So apparently, Chris Grant and Coach Scott thinks that Waiters is a steal at #4.