Draft Results: Damian Lillard, Meyers Leonard, Will Barton.

oa7goat4sho · Post #161 » by **oa7goat4sho** » Sat Jun 30, 2012 9:07 pm

First, I was upset about Lillard and Leonard. Mainly because we didn't chose Barnes or Drummond in the 6th pick and we could have gone for Lamb for 11th pick. But since we have LMA, we are not a team that is desperate to find a guy to bring the franchise up from the ashes over the years with his superstar potential. We have some good assets but a backcourt help was vital for turning these assets into results. Lillard seems like the most suitable prospect in this draft to deliver this role. Meyers Leonard has good upsides, and is likely to click with LMA. Portland roster needed a solid center and this could be our guy.

Post #162 » by **DaVoiceMaster** » Sat Jun 30, 2012 11:06 pm

Welcome to the forum oa7goat4sho

tester551 · Post #163 » by **tester551** » Sat Jun 30, 2012 11:23 pm

JustBlaze52 wrote:This draft, other than the obvious Beal, Robinson, and Davis... there were two guys I wanted. I've wanted Meyers all along, but Lillard took a bit of time for me to warm up to. After getting to know Lillard a bit more, it was a obvious that he was a great pick. Leonard has gotten way better since his freshman year, and if he were utilized better, would've been a top 5 pick. If he stays healthy, he's going to be really good.

Just out of curiosity, who was the other player you wanted on the Blazers? I was wanting Crowder & Barton myself as late round guys. I think Barton will end up being better than J Lamb.

oa7goat4sho wrote:First, I was upset about Lillard and Leonard. Mainly because we didn't chose Barnes or Drummond in the 6th pick and we could have gone for Lamb for 11th pick. But since we have LMA, we are not a team that is desperate to find a guy to bring the franchise up from the ashes over the years with his superstar potential. We have some good assets but a backcourt help was vital for turning these assets into results. Lillard seems like the most suitable prospect in this draft to deliver this role. Meyers Leonard has good upsides, and is likely to click with LMA. Portland roster needed a solid center and this could be our guy.

Barnes BEST CASE comparison is Marvin Williams. Not sad at all that we passed on him. Drummond has a higher risk/reward than Leonard - but I think Leonard will be the better NBA player.

LOOSH · Post #164 » by **LOOSH** » Sat Jun 30, 2012 11:48 pm

tester551 wrote:Barnes BEST CASE comparison is Marvin Williams

LOL ... according to who? Common comparisons for Barnes are Danny Granger, Luol Deng, and Glen Rice.

Post #165 » by **mojomarc** » Sun Jul 1, 2012 12:01 am

LOOSH wrote:
tester551 wrote:Barnes BEST CASE comparison is Marvin Williams

LOL ... according to who? Common comparisons for Barnes are Danny Granger, Luol Deng, and Glen Rice.

True, those were the comparisons on the draft sites. I didn't see a lot of him, but what I did honestly made me think of a slightly more polished Marvin. I can see him being a very good player (not all star level consistently, but a good scorer) on a team where he has a great PG to feed him and bigs to take care of the rebounding slack. He would be a fantastic fit with The Clippers, for example. But in Portland, I thought he would have been a disappointment.

monopoman · Post #166 » by **monopoman** » Sun Jul 1, 2012 12:52 am

mojomarc wrote:
LOOSH wrote:
tester551 wrote:Barnes BEST CASE comparison is Marvin Williams

LOL ... according to who? Common comparisons for Barnes are Danny Granger, Luol Deng, and Glen Rice.

True, those were the comparisons on the draft sites. I didn't see a lot of him, but what I did honestly made me think of a slightly more polished Marvin. I can see him being a very good player (not all star level consistently, but a good scorer) on a team where he has a great PG to feed him and bigs to take care of the rebounding slack. He would be a fantastic fit with The Clippers, for example. But in Portland, I thought he would have been a disappointment.

When you start pairing guys with Chris Paul they all start to look amazing.

Notice David West with Paul vs. David West without Paul

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JustBlaze52 · Post #167 » by **JustBlaze52** » Sun Jul 1, 2012 1:30 am

tester551 wrote:
JustBlaze52 wrote:This draft, other than the obvious Beal, Robinson, and Davis... there were two guys I wanted. I've wanted Meyers all along, but Lillard took a bit of time for me to warm up to. After getting to know Lillard a bit more, it was a obvious that he was a great pick. Leonard has gotten way better since his freshman year, and if he were utilized better, would've been a top 5 pick. If he stays healthy, he's going to be really good.

Just out of curiosity, who was the other player you wanted on the Blazers? I was wanting Crowder & Barton myself as late round guys. I think Barton will end up being better than J Lamb.

oa7goat4sho wrote:First, I was upset about Lillard and Leonard. Mainly because we didn't chose Barnes or Drummond in the 6th pick and we could have gone for Lamb for 11th pick. But since we have LMA, we are not a team that is desperate to find a guy to bring the franchise up from the ashes over the years with his superstar potential. We have some good assets but a backcourt help was vital for turning these assets into results. Lillard seems like the most suitable prospect in this draft to deliver this role. Meyers Leonard has good upsides, and is likely to click with LMA. Portland roster needed a solid center and this could be our guy.

Barnes BEST CASE comparison is Marvin Williams. Not sad at all that we passed on him. Drummond has a higher risk/reward than Leonard - but I think Leonard will be the better NBA player.

The other guy I was hoping for if we didn't get Leonard was Terrence Ross. I think the Raptors made a wise move in picking him up when they did.

I really wanted Kyle O'Quinn in the second round and I'm not quite sure why we didn't use our other pick to draft him. Other than to save Paul the money that we're wasting on Shawne Williams perhaps (3mill for 3mill, makes sense). The Blazers must have not been that impressed in his workout or know something I don't know. I love Barton's potential, but I didn't think he'd actually be around when he was. I figured he would have been drafted. We got a steal with him.

Chanse503 · Post #168 » by **Chanse503** » Sun Jul 1, 2012 1:35 am

Now we have three Memphis Tigers on the roster.

monopoman · Post #169 » by **monopoman** » Sun Jul 1, 2012 1:37 am

JustBlaze52 wrote:
tester551 wrote:
JustBlaze52 wrote:This draft, other than the obvious Beal, Robinson, and Davis... there were two guys I wanted. I've wanted Meyers all along, but Lillard took a bit of time for me to warm up to. After getting to know Lillard a bit more, it was a obvious that he was a great pick. Leonard has gotten way better since his freshman year, and if he were utilized better, would've been a top 5 pick. If he stays healthy, he's going to be really good.

Just out of curiosity, who was the other player you wanted on the Blazers? I was wanting Crowder & Barton myself as late round guys. I think Barton will end up being better than J Lamb.

oa7goat4sho wrote:First, I was upset about Lillard and Leonard. Mainly because we didn't chose Barnes or Drummond in the 6th pick and we could have gone for Lamb for 11th pick. But since we have LMA, we are not a team that is desperate to find a guy to bring the franchise up from the ashes over the years with his superstar potential. We have some good assets but a backcourt help was vital for turning these assets into results. Lillard seems like the most suitable prospect in this draft to deliver this role. Meyers Leonard has good upsides, and is likely to click with LMA. Portland roster needed a solid center and this could be our guy.

Barnes BEST CASE comparison is Marvin Williams. Not sad at all that we passed on him. Drummond has a higher risk/reward than Leonard - but I think Leonard will be the better NBA player.

The other guy I was hoping for if we didn't get Leonard was Terrence Ross. I think the Raptors made a wise move in picking him up when they did.

I really wanted Kyle O'Quinn in the second round and I'm not quite sure why we didn't use our other pick to draft him. Other than to save Paul the money that we're wasting on Shawne Williams perhaps (3mill for 3mill, makes sense). The Blazers must have not been that impressed in his workout or know something I don't know. I love Barton's potential, but I didn't think he'd actually be around when he was. I figured he would have been drafted. We got a steal with him.

Yeah I saw multiple analysts give Blazers huge props for their 2nd round pick of Barton.

SinceClyde · Post #170 » by **SinceClyde** » Sun Jul 1, 2012 4:01 am

I don't know about anyone else, but I think the hardcore fans get real excited come the second round. I've been doing research on all these guys, and the steals of the draft, in my experience, happen in the second round. Will Barton will make the team, if for no other reason than the amount of players we have on contract. Very excited to see him play.

Chanse503 · Post #171 » by **Chanse503** » Sun Jul 1, 2012 4:10 am

Shoot, we didn't have to do anything, guy fell in our slap.
Surprise Q.Miller fell so hard too though. Was really hoping we could have landed Quincy too.

GreenRiddler · Post #172 » by **GreenRiddler** » Sun Jul 1, 2012 4:22 am

Leonard>>>Kanter? Anyone?

Ditchweed · Post #173 » by **Ditchweed** » Sun Jul 1, 2012 5:35 am

lucky strike wrote:One thing that I think is kind of silly is people saying Portland should have traded up or so and so team would have surely traded for whatever.

No one knows what teams were asking for or would be willing to accept....to fault the blazers for not trading up in the lottery with a couple 2nd rounders, a scrub or cash or something is just unrealistic.

Seems like trades were really hard to come by due to the realitve lack of them

Sure I absolutely would have loved for them to trade to 8 to take Drummond but I'm not going to fault them by assuming that it was a really easy thing to do.

You are right. The Raptors absolutely would not have traded the 8th pick for 2nd rounders, a scrub, or cash. Actually, they would have most likely asked to trade #8 with #6 and with something a bit more realistic.

The only way the Raptors would have traded the #8 for the #11 pick was to have a starting SG or SF included in a combo trade.

tester551 · Post #174 » by **tester551** » Sun Jul 1, 2012 6:25 am

LOOSH wrote:
tester551 wrote:Barnes BEST CASE comparison is Marvin Williams

LOL ... according to who? Common comparisons for Barnes are Danny Granger, Luol Deng, and Glen Rice.

That's my comp for him. I watched 4-5 games of his last year. For all his athleticism, size, etc - he never did much. Even his best skill of shooting isn't all that efficient. I would not have touched Barnes until the late teens. I would have picked Sullinger over Barnes.

kumquat · Post #175 » by **kumquat** » Sun Jul 1, 2012 10:43 am

http://sports.yahoo.com/video/player/nba/NBA_Draft/29773625

He looks a hell of a lot like DRose in this vid

Post #176 » by **mojomarc** » Sun Jul 1, 2012 3:19 pm

monopoman wrote:
When you start pairing guys with Chris Paul they all start to look amazing.

Notice David West with Paul vs. David West without Paul .

That's sort of my point. If we had drafted Barnes instead of Lillard, how likely would he have been to look like West without Paul? I think that's far more likely given his limited ability to create offense than for him to look like West with Paul when we don't have a Paul.

PDXKnight · Post #177 » by **PDXKnight** » Sun Jul 1, 2012 7:48 pm

I think with Lillard in the mix, we might need a 2 or 3 who can set up the offense now. Andre Iguadala might be a decent option as someone already mentioned.

oa7goat4sho · Post #178 » by **oa7goat4sho** » Sun Jul 1, 2012 9:38 pm

GreenRiddler wrote:Leonard>>>Kanter? Anyone?

Wow. Really? Do you really believe that?

re49gb_2gho32fp · Post #179 » by **re49gb_2gho32fp** » Sun Jul 1, 2012 10:18 pm

Oden2 wrote:I think with Lillard in the mix, we might need a 2 or 3 who can set up the offense now. Andre Iguadala might be a decent option as someone already mentioned.

Unneccesary if a team utilizes lowpost offense greatly. Just dump the ball to one of the two skilled big men and cut. first and last.

PDXKnight · Post #180 » by **PDXKnight** » Sun Jul 1, 2012 11:06 pm

shaolin wrote:
Oden2 wrote:I think with Lillard in the mix, we might need a 2 or 3 who can set up the offense now. Andre Iguadala might be a decent option as someone already mentioned.

Unneccesary if a team utilizes lowpost offense greatly. Just dump the ball to one of the two skilled big men and cut. first and last.

I'm going off the assumption that Indy matches Hibbert at this point.