Summer 2012 Free Agents Thread - Part II

[Terpman]

Captain Kirk would be welcome back on our team as well. Solid guy @backup to both guard spots.

[BruceO]

Don't think we'll go after major free agents..think we may trade for guys and if slots are available will get undrafted guys like shurna. I suspect we'll be bringing in shooters. But n some sense roger mason and Cartier Martin can be considered that.

I like guys like Wes Mathews, dorell wright, Brandon rush and oj mayo as possible role players to trade for to start with

[Dat2U]

If Leonsis and EG are so aggressive about winning over the next two seasons then I don't see why the wouldn't attempt to add a free agent or two using the MLE. Just time those commitments two expire when Okafor & Ariza expire.

IMO we need offense. Efficient scoring, plain and simple. Chauncey Billups would be my ideal choice, but he'd be a long shot.

Patty Mills is my second choice. He only played 16 games last season but really showed the ability to score and did so efficiently (.604 TS%). But he actually is restricted and the Spurs do have the right to match.

[miller31time]

Chauncey would indeed be great for this team. Unfortunately, he'd be great for a lot of teams and when the decision comes down to us vs. a large pack of teams, we're not going to come out on top.

[Upper Decker]

James Anderson is a UFA. He was picked 3 selections after Seraphin and half the board went apoplectic because EG 'wasted' another selection on an unknown raw oversea's guy. Anderson's been pretty awful, and the fact that the Spurs didn't pick up his options has to mean something, but maybe he's worth a shot as a camp invite.

[hands11]

Colangelo basically admits he's amnestying Calderon. I really think the Wiz should place a bid. I don't know the cap situation and whether they'd have enough for Calderon and Martin/Mason/Almond, but Calderon at 1 year for 3-4 million is a great deal. He perfectly compliments Wall as the back up. Good deep shooter, albeit streaky, steady, get's teammates involved.

http://www.hoopsworld.com/raptors-to-amnesty-calderon-nash-nex

Yes. Calderon would be a good fit. One problem is that, now that we're over the cap, we have to move to the back of the line on the waivers process. Under the cap teams get to bid first.

I'd also see if Ray Allen would come here on a 1-year deal (we'd probably have to overpay, but it doesn't matter if it's just for 1 year).

Those are both players I've wanted to add though I don't think either is coming here. Cald would definitely be a nice fit.

Hey. What about Jeffers ? His knee should all better by know.

I'm pretty confident Mason will be resigned

[nate33]

If Leonsis and EG are so aggressive about winning over the next two seasons then I don't see why the wouldn't attempt to add a free agent or two using the MLE. Just time those commitments two expire when Okafor & Ariza expire.

A 2-year MLE deal will put us about $4M over the luxtax threshold next year.

[nuposse04]

watching all these FAs getting way overpaid makes me kind of want to extend Seraphin now...I don't want to see what his market price will be...yikes.

[hands11]

If Leonsis and EG are so aggressive about winning over the next two seasons then I don't see why the wouldn't attempt to add a free agent or two using the MLE. Just time those commitments two expire when Okafor & Ariza expire.

A 2-year MLE deal will put us about $4M over the luxtax threshold next year.

I think we can pretty much count on that not happening.

They aren't there yet. They have changed enough things already. my guess is that they will want to see what they have first before making that kind of move.

Short of adding players that have been here over the last two years like mason etc I think this is the roster to start the season. Next window will be heading into the trade deadline.

They have lots of evaluating to do. Big question is how quickly they can decide on macks future. He has lot to prove if he wants to stick around.
They need more from him if he is taking a slot at backup PG. Will they stay like that or

Use a hyped back up like crawford. Also beal was a PG in the past n he said he was going to dust off his handles. If either or both of them can handle back up PG as good or better then mack then that opens a slot for another SG to get minutes. Once beal become the starting SG crawford could be back up PG with mason at SG. Martin can be the 3rd SG /SF bench player.

There is a lot to get worked out with role players while the younger core gains another year of experience.

Once the hit the playoff race adding FAs will be a lot easier. Players will start to want to come here.

Wall Beal Nene Some good SF is going to want to run with that group.
Specially when they have a nice young group behind then in ks, ves, Booker, c singleton n even Crawford.

I didn't list oak or dray because I'm not sold on eithers future here.

The team looks good.

[nate33]

watching all these FAs getting way overpaid makes me kind of want to extend Seraphin now...I don't want to see what his market price will be...yikes.

We have unusual circumstances right now because a lot of teams scrambled to cut salary because of fears of what the new CBA would look like. We also have the Amnesty Clause being utilized to create even more cap room. We also haven't seen the more stringent luxtax penalties kick in.

I expect to see overpaying for free agents this summer and next summer, until the surplus in cap space is exhausted. By 2014, I think salaries will become a bit more sane.

[nate33]

If Leonsis and EG are so aggressive about winning over the next two seasons then I don't see why the wouldn't attempt to add a free agent or two using the MLE. Just time those commitments two expire when Okafor & Ariza expire.

A 2-year MLE deal will put us about $4M over the luxtax threshold next year.

I think we can pretty much count on that not happening.

They aren't there yet. They have changed enough things already. my guess is that they will want to see what they have first before making that kind of move.

Short of adding players that have been here over the last two years like mason etc I think this is the roster to start the season. Next window will be heading into the trade deadline.

They have lots of evaluating to do. Big question is how quickly they can decide on macks future. He has lot to prove if he wants to stick around.
They need more from him if he is taking a slot at backup PG. Will they stay like that or

Use a hyped back up like crawford. Also beal was a PG in the past n he said he was going to dust off his handles. If either or both of them can handle back up PG as good or better then mack then that opens a slot for another SG to get minutes. Once beal become the starting SG crawford could be back up PG with mason at SG. Martin can be the 3rd SG /SF bench player.

There is a lot to get worked out with role players while the younger core gains another year of experience.

Once the hit the playoff race adding FAs will be a lot easier. Players will start to want to come here.

Wall Beal Nene Some good SF is going to want to run with that group.
Specially when they have a nice young group behind then in ks, ves, Booker, c singleton n even Crawford.

I didn't list oak or dray because I'm not sold on eithers future here.

The team looks good.

I think it's possible that EG overpays a veteran on a 1-year deal - something like Ray Allen for 1-year $5M. I agree that a 2-year deal is unlikely unless EG already has a plan in place to dump one of Nene, Okafor or Ariza by next summer.

[jivelikenice]

I'm not cap expert but you could likely work around the luxury tax issues if you maneuver w/ our pick next yr (maybe attach some salary to it in a trade or trade it for a future pick) or move Singleton or Crawford in a salary dump. If there's someone that's worth the MLE, it can be worked around.

A guy I would look at is Gerald Green. W/ the Nets re-signing Wallace and trading for J Johnson potentially, he has lost a likely landing spot. Green can give you minutes backing up both wing spots and I'd definitely prefer him to Crawford....

[miller31time]

I think it's possible that EG overpays a veteran on a 1-year deal - something like Ray Allen for 1-year $5M.

Boston has reportedly offered Ray Allen a 2yr/12mil deal.

[nate33]

I think it's possible that EG overpays a veteran on a 1-year deal - something like Ray Allen for 1-year $5M.

Boston has reportedly offered Ray Allen a 2yr/12mil deal.

Yeah, I just saw that. Oh well. So much for my Ray Allen plan.

[BruceO]

So when people complained when EG traded for emeka and okafor tht he was showing his hand early and the money should have been spent on free agents. When they see we did indeed get beal and free agents are really expensive this offseason, do they now agree he was right or do we have qualms?

[Terpman]

I'm fine with EG dumping "the contract" for Ariza & Okafor. Solid vets to make the young guys battle for starting/playing time. Enough GIVING away starting jobs to guys who have yet to earn the minutes. I prefer Booker or Singleton to become outside shooting threats and claim the starting SF position (yes guys - practice those jumpers and you WILL make it in this league!).
Adding Beal, Ariza, Okafor, without giving up anything but empty cap space for an extra year was a hell of a nice offseason.
Make a run at the playoffs this coming season, and next offseason we can dump contracts and throw in a young developing player (Book/Singleton/Crawford/Vesely) and maybe our pick next year to add an all-star calibre SF or Center.
I still have a VERY crooked eye on DeMarcus Cousins, !st chance we get, Wiz should throw the house at Sactown to try and add Cousins to the young nucleus of Wall/Beal/Seraphin, and whoever wins the SF position.
Wall
Beal
Booker
Cousins
Nene/Seraphin

[sfam]

Assuming we amnesty Blatche, does that give us the flexibility to bring in a MLE, either a SF or vet PG? And really, looking at the insane number of vet PGs available, I'm thinking we get a good one lots cheaper.

[montestewart]

So when people complained when EG traded for emeka and okafor tht he was showing his hand early and the money should have been spent on free agents. When they see we did indeed get beal and free agents are really expensive this offseason, do they now agree he was right or do we have qualms?

qualms

[hands11]

I think it's possible that EG overpays a veteran on a 1-year deal - something like Ray Allen for 1-year $5M.

Boston has reportedly offered Ray Allen a 2yr/12mil deal.

I was going to say. Really ?

I would defiantly take Ray Allen for 1 year 5M and feel like I got away with a bank robbery.
I have been talking about wanting Ray here for a good while but I don't see it happening. It was always a long shot proposition to begin with. But it seems clear he either stays in Boston or he goes to Miami or similar. I prefer he stays in Boston. That is where he belongs and where he should retire.

For the Wiz, I still think they bring back Mason. It isn't sexy but it's ok for this next year. Mason fits well with this team and he has roots. He should be able to produce at a .400 % range from 3 next year as the vet SG 3 ball shooter.

[nate33]

Assuming we amnesty Blatche, does that give us the flexibility to bring in a MLE, either a SF or vet PG? And really, looking at the insane number of vet PGs available, I'm thinking we get a good one lots cheaper.

Yes. If we amnesty Blatche, we can use the MLE and not run into luxtax problems.