Omer Asik and Rockets agree to deal 3 years 25 million

[bullsnewdynasty]

America - the only place where you can make $25M to play a sport when you can't even catch a ball. The contract is a joke, he is not worth it. When will Bulls management learn? Stop falling in love with your players and signing them to stupid contracts that ruin future flexibility. Just let him walk.

"Future flexibility." The same sorry excuse that was used to justify our lack of moves at the past 2 trade deadlines and lack of big splash last offseason? It is simply an excuse to avoid the luxury tax. Because the Bulls have not utilized their "future flexibility" to improve the team at all, only to save money.

[biggestbullsfan]

It's kind of funny we were thinkin we prolly should trade him before he gets offered some crazy contract. Well, congratulations lol

[fleet]

Easy decision, we match a three year deal.


This front office and coaching staff believes Omer is DPOY talent. They're not letting that walk.

Obviously you pay him. You pay him reasonably and play him for two years and then use his huge expiring as a trade asset. Someone else said this earlier and I couldn't agree more.

if thats possible, I think it may happen. But I don't know if the Bulls will be anxious to wait for that to materialize. Its a risk to expect it. I think they will pull the trigger before that eventuality on Noah and Deng salary cutting/picks/1st contract players package deals if any are out there. They wouldn't hesitate imo. and of course jettsison Boozer the first chance or method possible.

[Magilla_Gorilla]

Pretty sure BYC doesn't apply.

[LoveDaBoo]

This front office and coaching staff believes Omer is DPOY talent.

If that's true, we need a new FO and coaching staff.

[kingkirk]

Am i the only one that agrees with Red?

How can people say this is an easy match?

This is a massive decision for the FO.

Morey has pimpslapped Gar here. Its a great move on his behalf, but i dont buy into the fact that its an easy match when we have Jo.

[coldfish]

He's going to be BYC in the last year of his contract. It's not nearly as tradeable as you think.

Not from my understanding.

The 2011 CBA mostly eliminated BYC -- in fact, the term "Base Year Compensation" was removed from the agreement entirely. The rules formerly known as BYC now apply under just one circumstance -- during sign-and-trade transactions

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In lieu of the previous BYC rules for ordinary trades, teams are now prohibited from trading players for three months or until January 15 (whichever is later) when the signing satisfies the BYC critieria

Well, that's good. Still wouldn't do it, but at least his deal might be tradeable.

At the end of the day, the Bulls still need to look themselves in the mirror. If matching this contract means that they have to make some really bad decisions 3 years from now, like let Deng walk for nothing like they did with Gordon, they need to let Asik go.

[organix85]

His size against other bench bigmen isn't easy to match and was one of our main assets. It'll b missed and hard to replace.

I realize that. But that's not worth $14M.

He's going to be BYC in the last year of his contract. It's not nearly as tradeable as you think.

Are you sure about the BYC? Coon's site says:

"The rules formerly known as BYC now apply under just one circumstance -- during sign-and-trade transactions (see question number 88). If a team is over the cap and re-signs its Larry Bird or Early Bird free agent with a raise greater than 20%, in order to trade the player in a sign-and-trade arrangement, then the player's outgoing salary for trade purposes is either his previous salary or 50% of his new salary, whichever is greater. The team receiving the player always uses his new salary."

[Red Larrivee]

The 2011 CBA mostly eliminated BYC -- in fact, the term "Base Year Compensation" was removed from the agreement entirely. The rules formerly known as BYC now apply under just one circumstance -- during sign-and-trade transactions

...
In lieu of the previous BYC rules for ordinary trades, teams are now prohibited from trading players for three months or until January 15 (whichever is later) when the signing satisfies the BYC critieria

I stand corrected then. But it's still going to be an extremely difficult deal to match up in a trade. No team is going to pay that type of money for him. In year 3 he officially doesn't become an asset anymore.

[Ctownbulls]

America - the only place where you can make $25M to play a sport when you can't even catch a ball. The contract is a joke, he is not worth it. When will Bulls management learn? Stop falling in love with your players and signing them to stupid contracts that ruin future flexibility. Just let him walk.

Asik is 7 feet tall, can block the ball, and Thibbs loves him.

Who cares, he is not worth this much money. Lets be honest. With his current skill set he is a 15 mpg player, max. Especially on an offensive inept team as it is. I don't see his offensive game getting good enough within the next 2 years where this guy is even starter material. I'd rather give the money with Taj and role with Noah, Taj and a cheap big man (once Boozer is gone). He is not worth this much. God, Bulls will be stuck with Deng, Asik, Boozer...all pretty bad to terrible contracts. Then we have Rose at $17M to not play next year and Noah who is on the brink of being overpaid. They can't afford another iffy contract. Let him walk.

[step]

Pretty sure BYC doesn't apply.

You are right.

BYC previously was only in the first year of the contract.

I stand corrected then. But it's still going to be an extremely difficult deal to match up in a trade. No team is going to pay that type of money for him. In year 3 he officially doesn't become an asset anymore.

Oh you are right there.
That 3rd year is going to make us think twice, which is what the Rockets are counting on.

[PistolP]

Am i the only one that agrees with Red?

How can people say this is an easy match?

This is a massive decision for the FO.

Morey has pimpslapped Gar here. Its a great move on his behalf, but i dont buy into the fact that its an easy match when we have Jo.

Nope, I'm with you guys...so long as the money is spent elsewhere (and not just pocketed), like grabbing another scorer with the full MLE.

[red222]

Am i the only one that agrees with Red?

How can people say this is an easy match?

This is a massive decision for the FO.

Morey has pimpslapped Gar here. Its a great move on his behalf, but i dont buy into the fact that its an easy match when we have Jo.

its an easy dont match imo

[BIGGIEsmalls 23]

Am i the only one that agrees with Red?

How can people say this is an easy match?

This is a massive decision for the FO.

Morey has pimpslapped Gar here. Its a great move on his behalf, but i dont buy into the fact that its an easy match when we have Jo.

No, you're not the only one with Red. I'm with both of you on this one.

We should have traded him when we had the chance. I believe that the smart choice now, is to let him walk.

[ChicagoLegend]

America - the only place where you can make $25M to play a sport when you can't even catch a ball. The contract is a joke, he is not worth it. When will Bulls management learn? Stop falling in love with your players and signing them to stupid contracts that ruin future flexibility. Just let him walk.

Asik is 7 feet tall, can block the ball, and Thibbs loves him.

Who cares, he is not worth this much money. Lets be honest. With his current skill set he is a 15 mpg player, max. Especially on an offensive inept team as it is. I don't see his offensive game getting good enough within the next 2 years where this guy is even starter material. I'd rather give the money with Taj and role with Noah, Taj and a cheap big man (once Boozer is gone). He is not worth this much. God, Bulls will be stuck with Deng, Asik, Boozer...all pretty bad to terrible contracts. Then we have Rose at $17M to not play next year and Noah who is on the brink of being overpaid. They can't afford another iffy contract. Let him walk.

What other center the Bulls can sign this year? Scalabrine?

[fleet]

the Bulls are going to be busy little beavers this trade deadline.

[Ctownbulls]

America - the only place where you can make $25M to play a sport when you can't even catch a ball. The contract is a joke, he is not worth it. When will Bulls management learn? Stop falling in love with your players and signing them to stupid contracts that ruin future flexibility. Just let him walk.

"Future flexibility." The same sorry excuse that was used to justify our lack of moves at the past 2 trade deadlines and lack of big splash last offseason? It is simply an excuse to avoid the luxury tax. Because the Bulls have not utilized their "future flexibility" to improve the team at all, only to save money.

Wait, did they not try to sign Bosh, Lebron and Wade? It isn't their fault that they cheated to be together. Bulls were primed for that off-season and it was the right move. Asik for 8M is just not worth it. HE CANT CATCH THE BALL! Or make a lay-up. I mean really, $8M for a 7 foot stiff. Yes, he is exceptional at defense but the Bulls will be a fantastic defensive team with or without him.

[bullsnewdynasty]

Asik's $8 million isn't going to a scorer instead. In all likelihood, it's going into JR's pocket.

[Blue Note]

I'll throw out the possibility that they're prepared to take a huge LT hit in 2014-2015. But I know that's funny.

[fleet]

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