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Official Speculation Thread (Pt. XXX: Offseason Edition)

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Re: Official Speculation Thread (Pt. XXX: Offseason Edition) 

Post#201 » by ThatFloridaDude » Mon Jul 2, 2012 1:28 am

Zmill wrote:No way we get Bynum/Lowry unless we ship out Ryan Anderson to LA.

LAL isn't trying to trade Gasol for peanuts.

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**** thats cool, send him too and duhon and q or turk
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Post#202 » by MagicTownBaller » Mon Jul 2, 2012 1:29 am

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Post#203 » by MagicStarwipe » Mon Jul 2, 2012 1:35 am

Bynum has one of the worst attitudes in the NBA. He is extremely immature.
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Post#204 » by Magicalltheway » Mon Jul 2, 2012 1:38 am

I say no to Bynum and here is why. If we are to develope through draft and prospects and our GM is groomed for this type of developement, then by getting Bynum we will have a player who will be much older than the rest of the pack. when the rest reach their prime Bynum will be done. we need to look at what OKc had done. everyone in about the same age group. we either have to tank and make use of the picks we get in this trade and be patient. or with Bynum we stay in the 8th seed and stay a mediocre team. thats why Houstons deal was the best scenario. would give us just what we needed.
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Post#205 » by Bensational » Mon Jul 2, 2012 1:38 am

ChosenSavior wrote:^^ thelead is right. The abundance of short sighted moves that Otis did year after year destroyed this roster. If Henny can correct all of this, they need to erect a statue in his honor in Orlando.

With that being said, this does not excuse the piss-poor behavior that Dwight has shown to this franchise. Our fanbase and the city of Orlando does not deserve to go through this back and forth with him for another season.


exactly. the man who's to blame is the man that was in charge of building and maintaining a successful roster. the man who ignored the early requests of Dwight.

actually, it goes beyond Otis and all the way to the DeVos', because they deferred to Otis. they didn't have the wherewithal to question the moves Otis was making, even after they had to pay Arenas NOT to play here.

Dwight blatantly has some serious issues, but that should all be peripheral. fact is, if the right pieces were in place to begin with, we could have maintained and controlled this disaster.

4 superstars in under 20 years people. not to mention that Grant Hill opted to walk away after we paid him to sit on the bench for 7 **** seasons. people should be questioning this franchise's ability to maintain successful relationships with players, because even if we do trade Dwight and luck into another superstar, our track record shows that we'll just screw it up again.

and for the record, yes, yes Dwight is a dick. he's a prima donna, indecisive and all the other stuff. but i could live with that as long as he's winning us championships, just as i'm sure some other team will find a way to do so.
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Post#206 » by blue and white » Mon Jul 2, 2012 1:39 am

Magicalltheway wrote:I say no to Bynum and here is why. If we are to develope through draft and prospects and our GM is groomed for this type of developement, then by getting Bynum we will have a player who will be much older than the rest of the pack. when the rest reach their prime Bynum will be done. we need to look at what OKc had done. everyone in about the same age group. we either have to tank and make use of the picks we get in this trade and be patient. or with Bynum we stay in the 8th seed and stay a mediocre team. thats why Houstons deal was the best scenario. would give us just what we needed.

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Post#207 » by dwightsmight12 » Mon Jul 2, 2012 1:39 am

MagicStarwipe wrote:Bynum has one of the worst attitudes in the NBA. He is extremely immature.

Isnt much of a change from who we're dealing with now
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Post#208 » by Bensational » Mon Jul 2, 2012 1:40 am

MagicStarwipe wrote:Bynum has one of the worst attitudes in the NBA. He is extremely immature.


i don't know if he'd meet the "good human being" qualifier to be on Rob's team.

i'd be happy if we could swing Bynum on to Charlotte for MKG and future picks.
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Post#209 » by ThatFloridaDude » Mon Jul 2, 2012 1:43 am

Magicalltheway wrote:I say no to Bynum and here is why. If we are to develope through draft and prospects and our GM is groomed for this type of developement, then by getting Bynum we will have a player who will be much older than the rest of the pack. when the rest reach their prime Bynum will be done. we need to look at what OKc had done. everyone in about the same age group. we either have to tank and make use of the picks we get in this trade and be patient. or with Bynum we stay in the 8th seed and stay a mediocre team. thats why Houstons deal was the best scenario. would give us just what we needed.

Bynum is 24. This has to be the dumbest thing I've heard.
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Post#211 » by Magicalltheway » Mon Jul 2, 2012 1:48 am

ThatFloridaDude wrote:
Magicalltheway wrote:I say no to Bynum and here is why. If we are to develope through draft and prospects and our GM is groomed for this type of developement, then by getting Bynum we will have a player who will be much older than the rest of the pack. when the rest reach their prime Bynum will be done. we need to look at what OKc had done. everyone in about the same age group. we either have to tank and make use of the picks we get in this trade and be patient. or with Bynum we stay in the 8th seed and stay a mediocre team. thats why Houstons deal was the best scenario. would give us just what we needed.

Bynum is 24. This has to be the dumbest thing I've heard.




if you bother to use ur brain,you will see that its not dumb. it will take a developing team about 5yrs to reach supremacy, by then Bynum is 29. Hell he plays like he is 29 now.
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Post#212 » by woosah » Mon Jul 2, 2012 1:49 am

What type of issues created this "bad attitude" stigma that Bynum has been labeled with? Is it from frustration at how he is not featured or silly off the court stuff? I know about his hit on Barea which was stupid, but Dwight was suspended for an elbow too. I mean, he lost his cool and that happens and it's not a pattern is it? I just wonder if half of that stuff would go away if he becomes the featured piece on a team.
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Post#213 » by JohnWeisbrod » Mon Jul 2, 2012 1:50 am

Hedo's contract is unguaranteed after next year... that' not a bad trade chip in a deadline deal or just to buy it out for cap room. Henny needs to focus on dumping the BBD/JRich/ contracts in any Dwight deal.

A swap of Dwight/BBD/J'Rich for Bynum/McRoberts/Eyenga/6.8m Trade Exception would leave the following salaries after next year

Hedo 12m (unguaranteed)
Duhon 3.5m (unguaranteed)
QRich 2.8, (player option, no way he turns that down)

Depending on what the rookies sign for, even with signing Bynum to an extension @ say 19m a year if all other unguaranteed contracts are waived, & ORL keeps the 2 draft picks you're looking at what? $24-25m in salary? That's a TON of cap room going into next summer. Who wouldn't want to play for max money with a 25 year old all star center in a state with no income tax?

ORL salary info - http://www.shamsports.com/content/pages ... /magic.jsp
LAL salary info - http://www.shamsports.com/content/pages ... lakers.jsp
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Post#214 » by MagicTownBaller » Mon Jul 2, 2012 1:52 am

JohnWeisbrod wrote:Hedo's contract is unguaranteed after next year... that' not a bad trade chip in a deadline deal or just to buy it out for cap room. Henny needs to focus on dumping the BBD/JRich/ contracts in any Dwight deal.

A swap of Dwight/BBD/J'Rich for Bynum/McRoberts/Eyenga/6.8m Trade Exception would leave the following salaries after next year

Hedo 12m (unguaranteed)
Duhon 3.5m (unguaranteed)
QRich 2.8, (player option, no way he turns that down)

Depending on what the rookies sign for, even with signing Bynum to an extension @ say 19m a year if all other unguaranteed contracts are waived, & ORL keeps the 2 draft picks you're looking at what? $24-25m in salary? That's a TON of cap room going into next summer. Who wouldn't want to play for max money with a 25 year old all star center in a state with no income tax?

ORL salary info - http://www.shamsports.com/content/pages ... /magic.jsp
LAL salary info - http://www.shamsports.com/content/pages ... lakers.jsp
2013 FA info - http://www.hoopsworld.com/2013-nba-free-agents

Duhon is guaranteed $1.5M if they waive him and Turkoglu is guaranteed $6M if they waive him.
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Post#215 » by magicman123 » Mon Jul 2, 2012 1:54 am

yea its nice what OKC has done, but look what miami has done, boston has done, lakers have done, etc...do whatever gets us closer to a championship, no guarantees in anything
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Post#216 » by JohnWeisbrod » Mon Jul 2, 2012 2:00 am

MagicTownBaller wrote:
JohnWeisbrod wrote:Hedo's contract is unguaranteed after next year... that' not a bad trade chip in a deadline deal or just to buy it out for cap room. Henny needs to focus on dumping the BBD/JRich/ contracts in any Dwight deal.

A swap of Dwight/BBD/J'Rich for Bynum/McRoberts/Eyenga/6.8m Trade Exception would leave the following salaries after next year

Hedo 12m (unguaranteed)
Duhon 3.5m (unguaranteed)
QRich 2.8, (player option, no way he turns that down)

Depending on what the rookies sign for, even with signing Bynum to an extension @ say 19m a year if all other unguaranteed contracts are waived, & ORL keeps the 2 draft picks you're looking at what? $24-25m in salary? That's a TON of cap room going into next summer. Who wouldn't want to play for max money with a 25 year old all star center in a state with no income tax?

ORL salary info - http://www.shamsports.com/content/pages ... /magic.jsp
LAL salary info - http://www.shamsports.com/content/pages ... lakers.jsp
2013 FA info - http://www.hoopsworld.com/2013-nba-free-agents

Duhon is guaranteed $1.5M if they waive him and Turkoglu is guaranteed $6M if they waive him.


Ah, ok, thank you for the clarification, I didn't see that info anywhere.
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Post#217 » by MagicStarwipe » Mon Jul 2, 2012 2:00 am

dwightsmight12 wrote:
MagicStarwipe wrote:Bynum has one of the worst attitudes in the NBA. He is extremely immature.

Isnt much of a change from who we're dealing with now

Which isn't exactly a good thing is it?
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Post#218 » by Carlos Arroyo » Mon Jul 2, 2012 2:03 am

i kno why asik's contract is like that hes getting traded here so they spoke to henny and henny said give him only 5 mil a year for 2 yeras so we have cap space to sign jsmith next season or monte
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Post#219 » by ThatFloridaDude » Mon Jul 2, 2012 2:04 am

Magicalltheway wrote:
ThatFloridaDude wrote:
Magicalltheway wrote:I say no to Bynum and here is why. If we are to develope through draft and prospects and our GM is groomed for this type of developement, then by getting Bynum we will have a player who will be much older than the rest of the pack. when the rest reach their prime Bynum will be done. we need to look at what OKc had done. everyone in about the same age group. we either have to tank and make use of the picks we get in this trade and be patient. or with Bynum we stay in the 8th seed and stay a mediocre team. thats why Houstons deal was the best scenario. would give us just what we needed.

Bynum is 24. This has to be the dumbest thing I've heard.




if you bother to use ur brain,you will see that its not dumb. it will take a developing team about 5yrs to reach supremacy, by then Bynum is 29. Hell he plays like he is 29 now.

Don't like dumb? Ok it's the STUPIDEST Idea I've heard on this forum. Dwight is Already 27 and he is not in his prime yet. Your telling me you couldn't add some young talent around him and develop them while he plays? Have you seen Bynum's play? The guy has yet to even touch his full potential. He can be apart of a young core. It doesn't take that long for special players to develop. If they have the game, it will show for themselves. What your saying is basically be like the Sacramento Kings or GS Warriors? Great young core they have been trying to develop for the LONGEST and hasn't work it's stupid. You build around a big man and usually pieces fall into place. People don't realize the OKC method was luck and the SA method was luck (D Robinson Was Hurt when they got Timmy). You can keep a Bynum and develop a Clark or Nichalson.... you don't start from scratch when you have a young all star such as Bynum.. Dumb.
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Post#220 » by SolidSnake008 » Mon Jul 2, 2012 2:04 am

ThatFloridaDude wrote:
Magicalltheway wrote:I say no to Bynum and here is why. If we are to develope through draft and prospects and our GM is groomed for this type of developement, then by getting Bynum we will have a player who will be much older than the rest of the pack. when the rest reach their prime Bynum will be done. we need to look at what OKc had done. everyone in about the same age group. we either have to tank and make use of the picks we get in this trade and be patient. or with Bynum we stay in the 8th seed and stay a mediocre team. thats why Houstons deal was the best scenario. would give us just what we needed.

Bynum is 24. This has to be the dumbest thing I've heard.

not the smartest thing to say but his heart is in the right place.....i respect his opinion....but in a sense OKC got lucky.....who knew those guys were going to be sure things? we can tank and get high draft picks but it doesn't guarantee we get a future star out of it.......Big men are a commodity in this league...why not get the 2nd best one if the best one wants out?

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