Amnesty Question

[Trips71]

OK, before everyone says "that will never happen", this is just a hypothetical. If the Lakers amnestied Kobe, would they get enough cap room (or any) to sign Deron? If so, I would consider that radical move because it would basically be a straight swap. Then Howard would want to come and could be had for Bynum most likely. Then take ATL up on their power forward swap, and you have a young and talented team.

[AcecardZ]

OK, before everyone says "that will never happen", this is just a hypothetical. If the Lakers amnestied Kobe, would they get enough cap room (or any) to sign Deron? If so, I would consider that radical move because it would basically be a straight swap. Then Howard would want to come and could be had for Bynum most likely. Then take ATL up on their power forward swap, and you have a young and talented team.

You'd send shock waves through the sports world, Mitch and Jim would both get death threats, but theoretically speaking your hypothetical works.

[DEEP3CL]

Yeah but Buss would still be paying Kobe's salary to bust his ass every chance he gets in another uniform. The whole amnesty thing is really a tool for teams that have made dumb decisions over and over again. I mean look at the teams that actually used the clause.......same down trodden losing teams.

[Trips71]

It would definitely suck to be paying Kobe to destroy you every time you played him.

And yes, Mitch and Jim would probably get some threats, until people realized that Howard, Deron, and Josh Smith was a nice, young nucleus that will win some titles.

It was just a thought, I know Kobe is here for good.

[LAKERLAW]

NO. An amnesty will ONLY relieve a team of the tax owed. The salary remains on your books and counts against you. So no, your hypo does not even work.

[LAFan24]

OK, before everyone says "that will never happen", this is just a hypothetical. If the Lakers amnestied Kobe, would they get enough cap room (or any) to sign Deron? If so, I would consider that radical move because it would basically be a straight swap. Then Howard would want to come and could be had for Bynum most likely. Then take ATL up on their power forward swap, and you have a young and talented team.

What kind of a message does amnestying Kobe give to other future stars? People tend to forget what he has brought to LA. It's rare to find a team that gets multiple titles in such a short period.

[dockingsched]

NO. An amnesty will ONLY relieve a team of the tax owed. The salary remains on your books and counts against you. So no, your hypo does not even work.

you're thinking of the last amnesty. this amnesty takes the salary off the taxes owed amount AND the salary cap.

anyway, the lakers are so far over the cap that even if they got rid of kobe's salary, they wouldn't have the cap space to sign deron.

[LAKERLAW]

you have any authority to prove that Dock? thanks brother -

[dockingsched]

its common knowledge man, i'm too tired to look. been on the road all day, sorry

[dockingsched]

luckily larry coon had it handy, first place i looked really quick

http://www.cbafaq.com/salarycap.htm#Q67

67. What is the Amnesty provision?

Amnesty is a one-time opportunity for teams to release one player via the waiver process (see question number 63) and remove him from their team salary and luxury tax computations.

[LAKERLAW]

thanks dude.

[AcecardZ]

thanks dude.

Out of curiosity why did you think it was the other way?

[LAKERLAW]

Because that was the way it used to be and when you look up teams salaries on websites amnesty players remain on overall salary. Furthermore, it makes logical sense as the team does have to actually pay out the salary - but do not pay the tax.