Discussing Other Teams' Moves

[verbal8]

Omer Asik has received a 3 year $25 million deal from the Rockets and has agreed to it.

The breakdown on Asik deal is
Y1: $5 mil.
Y2: $5.225 mil.
Y3: $15 mil.

it's structured so that the Bulls will be in the luxury tax to match it. Morey is a bad ass

How is this legal? I am pretty sure Morey is using some twist of the CBA, just not sure how.

Is it because they are using cap space and the Rockets have uncommitted cap space in the 3rd year?

[MJG]

Omer Asik has received a 3 year $25 million deal from the Rockets and has agreed to it.

The breakdown on Asik deal is
Y1: $5 mil.
Y2: $5.225 mil.
Y3: $15 mil.

it's structured so that the Bulls will be in the luxury tax to match it. Morey is a bad ass

How is this legal? I am pretty sure Morey is using some twist of the CBA, just not sure how.

Is it because they are using cap space and the Rockets have uncommitted cap space in the 3rd year?

Hollinger has a big article on it. Funnily enough, it's basically a loophole involving the Arenas rule:

Under the "Gilbert Arenas" provision of the league's collective bargaining agreement, a player such as Asik -- a second-round draft pick coming off his second season -- can be offered only a maximum of the midlevel exception in free agency for the first two seasons but can be offered any amount up to the maximum in years after that.

Houston took advantage of this provision by limiting his offer to three years, rather than the maximum of four, and offering the maximum eligible salary in Year 3.

Pretty sneaky sis.

[verbal8]

Hollinger has a big article on it. Funnily enough, it's basically a loophole involving the Arenas rule:

Under the "Gilbert Arenas" provision of the league's collective bargaining agreement, a player such as Asik -- a second-round draft pick coming off his second season -- can be offered only a maximum of the midlevel exception in free agency for the first two seasons but can be offered any amount up to the maximum in years after that.

Houston took advantage of this provision by limiting his offer to three years, rather than the maximum of four, and offering the maximum eligible salary in Year 3.

Pretty sneaky sis.

Thanks for the info. I wonder if some team does the same with Jeremy Lin, maybe even the 4th season at max or near-max level.

[LyricalRico]

Even though Okafor signed his contract with the Hornets, his contract looks like it'll be on par with what bigs are getting.

Kinda glad the front office is sitting this one out. Just seems like contracts are gonna get more insane.

Houston seems to want to use their flexibility up now. Boston is retaining their stars. New Jersey is going after every bloated contract in the league. We could be one of the only games in town in 2014 with our contracts coming off the books.

[Rafael122]

IF Atlanta manages to get rid of Joe Johnson's contract, Ferry should win Exec of the year.

[Dat2U]

Omer Asik has received a 3 year $25 million deal from the Rockets and has agreed to it.

The breakdown on Asik deal is
Y1: $5 mil.
Y2: $5.225 mil.
Y3: $15 mil.

it's structured so that the Bulls will be in the luxury tax to match it. Morey is a bad ass

But Omer Asik isn't worth that type of dough. If a team made a move like that for Jeremy Lin, I could understand it but Omer Asik is backup at best.

[LyricalRico]

^ Speaking of New Jersey, they can be decent if they do the following:

- get a package deal of DWill/Kidd
- absorb Scola's contract
- re-sign Lopez to something not too extreme

By my calculations, that should put them right at the cap (assuming they renounce guys like Humphries and Stevenson). They'd then be looking at this roster:

Lopez/Petro
Scola/J.Williams
Wallace/Green (back for minimum)
Morrow/Brooks
D.Williams/Kidd

Good, but not great. The frontcourt actually looks similar to what DWill had in Utah with Okur/Boozer/Kirilenko. He was able to lead them to 50+ wins. Can he do the same in the East?

(I'm ignoring the Joe Johnson talk because absorbing his contract makes most of the other moves impossible under the cap.)

[nate33]

^ Speaking of New Jersey, they can be decent if they do the following:

- get a package deal of DWill/Kidd
- absorb Scola's contract
- re-sign Lopez to something not too extreme

By my calculations, that should put them right at the cap (assuming they renounce guys like Humphries and Stevenson). They'd then be looking at this roster:

Lopez/Petro
Scola/J.Williams
Wallace/Green (back for minimum)
Morrow/Brooks
D.Williams/Kidd

Good, but not great. The frontcourt actually looks similar to what DWill had in Utah with Okur/Boozer/Kirilenko. He was able to lead them to 50+ wins. Can he do the same in the East?

(I'm ignoring the Joe Johnson talk because absorbing his contract makes most of the other moves impossible under the cap.)

Can it work salarywise if they absorb Okafor instead of Scola?

[Rafael122]

So basically Boston is bringing back the exact same team. Granted they made it to the East Finals, but that doesn't mean they should go ahead and re-sign everyone. Where's the long term planning? There is none, KG on a 3 year deal, Ray on a 2 year deal. You're wasting Rondo's prime.

[Zonkerbl]

If a starting big is $10 million and higher, how is paying someone $8 mil a year too much for a backup? Isn't that more or less exactly what a relatively high quality backup big should get?

[verbal8]

So basically Boston is bringing back the exact same team. Granted they made it to the East Finals, but that doesn't mean they should go ahead and re-sign everyone. Where's the long term planning? There is none, KG on a 3 year deal, Ray on a 2 year deal. You're wasting Rondo's prime.

It is kind of funny they had a good plan B if they stunk it up. Let Garnett and Allen walk and most likely deal Paul Pierce. However it doesn't seem like they had a really good "Plan A". I think the draft may help some next season, but I don't see it putting them over the hump.

[verbal8]

double post

[MJG]

Congrats to the Nets. I mean, any time you can commit $130 million long-term to two 30+ years olds that aren't likely to make another all-star game between them, you just have to do it, am I right?

[Rafael122]

So basically Boston is bringing back the exact same team. Granted they made it to the East Finals, but that doesn't mean they should go ahead and re-sign everyone. Where's the long term planning? There is none, KG on a 3 year deal, Ray on a 2 year deal. You're wasting Rondo's prime.

It is kind of funny they had a good plan B if they stunk it up. Let Garnett and Allen walk and most likely deal Paul Pierce. However it doesn't seem like they had a really good "Plan A". I think the draft may help some next season, but I don't see it putting them over the hump.

Prime example of a team with cap space and assets and essentially they don't really do much with it. Cap space is overrated if you don't know what you're gonna do with it. I would have brought back KG, but I would have let Allen, Bass, Green, those guys walk. Sign OJ Mayo, get a power forward at a cheap price and you got something going.

[Rafael122]

If Marvin Williams opts out, the Hawks will have 1 contract on the books next year: Al Horford. If Williams opts in, they still have like $20 mil on the books.

They could conceivably go after Chris Paul AND Dwight Howard.

[Halcyon]

Well, at least we aren't the Nets.

[LyricalRico]

(I'm ignoring the Joe Johnson talk because absorbing his contract makes most of the other moves impossible under the cap.)

Oops, spoke too soon.

[Rafael122]

WOW. Ferry hasn't been on the job a week and he's already cleared enough payroll to offer 2 max contracts next offseason.

[LyricalRico]

^ I wonder if he'll move Smith next and move Horford to PF. Might as well do it now if they are truly pressing the reset button (presumably for Dwight Howard). Would have to be for expirings+picks, though.

[nuposse04]

if they sign CP3 and howard...and tank for shabazz...

CP3
Muhammad
FA
Horford
Howard


ughhh....what is the point of having an NBA season then....