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Post#921 » by GreenHat » Tue Jul 3, 2012 1:52 am

SweetTouch wrote:Lewis fits the need of a knockdown shooter

Too bad that's all he really does.

No rebounds
No defense.

But he would bring a defender out of the paint for wade/lebron


I haven't seen much of him lately but earlier in his career he was a decent defender. Not sure how much that has held up.

If he's out there with Lebron he could cover the lesser of the two forwards and most teams don't have a dangerous scorer at both positions.
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Post#922 » by GreenHat » Tue Jul 3, 2012 1:53 am

I think I'm on the Camby bandwagon too. He just brings us what we lack.

I think realistically we would have to give him the mini-mle because I don't see him coming for the minimum.

This is based on no player willing to settle for drastically less and take the mini-mle from us instead.
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Post#923 » by Valkyrie » Tue Jul 3, 2012 1:55 am

According to a report from Ramona Shelburne and Nick Friedell, the Chicago Bulls have contacted veteran point guard Derek Fisher as well as guard Brandon Roy. With Derrick Rose sidelined for an extended period of time, the Bulls have been exploring various options at point guard.


Fisher's possible relationship with the Bulls first surfaced after his buyout in the spring. It was an addition that Rose seemed intrigued with at the time. "D-Fish definitely could help our team," Rose said at the time. "But like I said, it's not up to me. It's up to the front office to make that call. If he comes, we'll welcome him with open arms, but we don't know right now."




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Post#924 » by GreenHat » Tue Jul 3, 2012 1:59 am

I don't see why so many teams want Fisher so badly.

OKC playing Fisher helped us
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Post#925 » by Mars » Tue Jul 3, 2012 1:59 am

Rashard's averaged 5.6 RPG for his career. Only pulled down 3.9 RPG this season, but that had more to do with decreased playing time. He averaged 5.8 RPG in 2010-11.

To put it into perspective, had Rashard grabbed his career average of 5.6 REB this season, he'd have been the 7th best rebounding small forward in the league behind Durant, LeBron, Marion, Wallace, Gay, and Iguodala.
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Post#926 » by Valkyrie » Tue Jul 3, 2012 2:01 am

GreenHat wrote:I don't see why so many teams want Fisher so badly.

OKC playing Fisher helped us


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Post#927 » by Valkyrie » Tue Jul 3, 2012 2:04 am

Patience is virtue for Heat in free agency

When a team only has $3 million to spend, it doesn’t exactly make a quick strike in free agency.

OK, so the Miami Heat were able to do that before last season, when Shane Battier quickly agreed to accept a three-year, $9.4 million deal. But that was a compressed free-agency period before a lockout-shortened season, and Battier is a different kind of guy.

For now, the Heat, who only have the $3.09 million taypayer exception to spend for next season, might need to be patient. They’ve offered free-agent shooting guard Ray Allen a three-year, $9.53 million contract in an attempt to pry him away from Boston. The Celtics have offered a two-year deal worth about $12 million.

If the offers were the same, Allen, 36, might already have committed to Miami. But that’s a lot of money to leave on the table, and the Celtics know it.

Speaking to the media in Boston on Sunday, Doc Rivers said it would be “a stretch for me to see him go somewhere else.'' That might especially be the case considering the Celtics have agreed to re-sign forward Kevin Garnett, and they’re determined to make another title run.

“We really want him back, and I really think at the end of the day that he will be back because this is such a good fit for him,’’ said Rivers, whose Celtics lost to the eventual champion Heat in Game 7 of the Eastern Conference finals. “We need him back, and we're trying to get him back. ... Yes, there are a couple of teams way under the cap who might be able to offer more money, but ... we can offer him more (than Miami or Memphis, which also has interest).”

So where do the Heat turn if the veteran 3-point specialist returns to the Celtics? Nothing seems certain at this point, although it still is more than a week before July 11, when players officially can sign contracts.

If Dallas elects not to re-sign sharpshooting guard Jason Terry, he could be a possibility. In an email to FOX Sports Florida, shortly before the free-agency negotiating period started at 12:01 a.m. ET on Sunday, Terry said he was “definitely’’ interested in the Heat. Terry, 34, played it coy Sunday night, saying simply Miami “might’’ be in the mix for him.

Terry’s top priority has been to return to the Mavericks, if they offer a satisfactory deal. Terry, who made $11.16 million last season and will have to take a big pay cut wherever he goes, is waiting to see whether Dallas lands its top free-agent target in point guard Deron Williams or whether he re-signs with Brooklyn.

With Mike Miller’s health in question, Miami has the need for a shooter. The Heat have had needs at center and point guard, but they were able to win the championship with Chris Bosh moving over to the pivot from power forward and with Mario Chalmers stepping up his game at the right time at the point.

A center who intrigues the Heat is Marcus Camby. Sources on Monday confirmed mutual interest between Camby and Miami, but it was said his preference remains to re-sign with Houston.

“He would only be interested in Miami for the $3 million,’’ one of the sources said about Camby, putting the kibosh on any thinking the Heat could get Allen for the taxpayer exception and sign Camby, a 16-year veteran, for the veteran’s minimum of $1.35 million.

Sources said Houston agreeing to give Chicago restricted free-agent center Omer Asik a three-year, $25 million offer sheet might not affect Camby. While Camby wants to be a starter, he still could have that role with the Rockets and share the job with Asik while mentoring him.

Sources said Camby, who is 38 but wants to play about three more seasons, wants a two- or three-year deal, although he will have to take a big pay cut from the $11.3 million he made last season. If the Rockets don’t step up with the appropriate money and length of a deal, then Camby could look strongly at the Heat, if they don’t land Allen.

ESPN Los Angeles reported the Heat also have inquired about Lakers big man Jordan Hill. But Miami might not have enough money to land him.

Other big-man big man possibilities include former Heat stalwart Jermaine O’Neal and Rashard Lewis. Waived last week by New Orleans, Lewis doesn’t have a lot left, but he might be able to hit some outside shots in limited duty.

At point guard, free agent Andre Miller is off the table, having agreed to a three-year to deal to say with Denver. It remains to be seen what might happen with Chauncey Billups, a Clippers free agent who is recovering from a torn Achilles tendon and could re-sign with them. But many believe Billups would have ended up in Miami last December had he cleared waivers when New York made him an amnesty victim.

If the Heat are willing to be patient, one shooter to keep an eye on is swingman Kyle Korver, who could be let go by Chicago if the Bulls decide not to pick up his $5 million contract option by the July 10 deadline. If they decide they are going to match the offer sheet on Asik, that would appear to increase the chances of Korver being let go.

Heat fans don’t have to be reminded much about Korver. He shot 5-of-6 from 3-point range against Miami in an overtime win last April by the Bulls.


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Post#928 » by RexBoyWonder » Tue Jul 3, 2012 2:04 am

I wish we'll hear we got Allen or Camby or even Lewis already..just one good addition to keep a good vibe going and rest a little easier..
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Post#929 » by LikeABosh » Tue Jul 3, 2012 2:10 am

Kyle Korver....interesting
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Post#930 » by RexBoyWonder » Tue Jul 3, 2012 2:11 am

Mars wrote:Rashard's averaged 5.6 RPG for his career. Only pulled down 3.9 RPG this season, but that had more to do with decreased playing time. He averaged 5.8 RPG in 2010-11.

To put it into perspective, had Rashard grabbed his career average of 5.6 REB this season, he'd have been the 7th best rebounding small forward in the league behind Durant, LeBron, Marion, Wallace, Gay, and Iguodala.


WTF? Rashard Lewis is 6"10. he's a PF, not a SF.
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Post#931 » by Miami316 » Tue Jul 3, 2012 2:12 am

RexBoyWonder wrote:I wish we'll hear we got Allen or Camby or even Lewis already..just one good addition to keep a good vibe going and rest a little easier..


Keep the faith, the best executive in the NBA is Pat Riley. Only Pat Riley could have gotten the greatest player of all time to leave Cleveland to come to Miami to team with Bosh and Wade. Ray is coming man, and I for one can't wait! You'll thank me for the positive thinking when he's introduced at the AAA as our new 6th man. :D
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Post#932 » by Valkyrie » Tue Jul 3, 2012 2:15 am

Miami316 wrote:
RexBoyWonder wrote:I wish we'll hear we got Allen or Camby or even Lewis already..just one good addition to keep a good vibe going and rest a little easier..


the greatest player of all time


you are gonna get mixed responses on that statement... not saying i disagree
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Post#933 » by Mars » Tue Jul 3, 2012 2:17 am

RexBoyWonder wrote:WTF? Rashard Lewis is 6"10. he's a PF, not a SF.

Rashard's a career SF who was forced into the role of PF during the 3 1/2 seasons he played in Orlando under Van Gundy's system.
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Post#934 » by Miami316 » Tue Jul 3, 2012 2:20 am

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RexBoyWonder wrote:I wish we'll hear we got Allen or Camby or even Lewis already..just one good addition to keep a good vibe going and rest a little easier..


Keep the faith, the best executive in the NBA is Pat Riley. Only Pat Riley could have gotten the greatest player of all time to leave Cleveland to come to Miami to team with Bosh and Wade. Ray is coming man, and I for one can't wait! You'll thank me for the positive thinking when he's introduced at the AAA as our new 6th man. :D


you are gonna get mixed responses on that statement...


I reserve the right to my opinion...its all about evolution of players. No one has ever had the physical athleticism as LBJ, by the end of this dynasty there will be no question. But that wasn't my main point...

Ray is Coming...KEEP THE FAITH...Its down to the defending champs, or a probable 7th or 8th seed in Boston (maybe not even in the playoffs, tough to bank on 3 people in their late 30's) or Memphis (HAHAHA)

When you break it down to that...why would Ray choose the Celtics over a few million? He'll either take the money in Boston and have a set tee time by the end of May or come with LBJ to win, not 2, not 3, not 4, not 5...(with Ray it probably stops at three-peat due to his age but you get the hint)
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Post#935 » by heatwillbeback » Tue Jul 3, 2012 2:20 am

Rashard cant defend anything, which is the issue. If you cant defend in this system, there are no consistent minutes to be had.
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Post#936 » by Valkyrie » Tue Jul 3, 2012 2:22 am

heatwillbeback wrote:Rashard cant defend anything, which is the issue. If you cant defend in this system, there are no consistent minutes to be had.



Well, we did start Bibby and make the finals...
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Post#937 » by Miami316 » Tue Jul 3, 2012 2:22 am

heatwillbeback wrote:Rashard cant defend anything, which is the issue. If you cant defend in this system, there are no consistent minutes to be had.


At this point wouldn't he just be a cheaper version of Mike Miller? (only he hasn't been rendered ineffective due to his back)
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Post#938 » by heatwillbeback » Tue Jul 3, 2012 2:24 am

Miami316 wrote:
heatwillbeback wrote:Rashard cant defend anything, which is the issue. If you cant defend in this system, there are no consistent minutes to be had.


At this point wouldn't he just be a cheaper version of Mike Miller? (only he hasn't been rendered ineffective due to his back)


I think he is pretty much James Jones at this point. Skinny lanky specialist shooter. James Jones is like 6-9 which people forget because of how he plays.

Miller is a good passer. Good rebounder. Tenacious though not that athletic on defense. He is a much more complete player than Rashard. He is also a 2-3 while Rashard is a 3-4 tweener.
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Post#939 » by Valkyrie » Tue Jul 3, 2012 2:27 am

I just had a random thought... what if LeBron leaves in 2014?
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Post#940 » by cb1 » Tue Jul 3, 2012 2:28 am

Valkyrie wrote:
heatwillbeback wrote:Rashard cant defend anything, which is the issue. If you cant defend in this system, there are no consistent minutes to be had.



Well, we did start Bibby and make the finals...

:lol: true.

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