Official Speculation Thread (Pt. XXXI: Off-Season Edition)

[NEM]

jason thompson has been overrated on these boards for years... i dont get it, the dude has 10 and 7 career averages with less than a block per game... he is 26... we have this guy by the name of glen davis who gives you that and more... no thank you

maybe if we were in need of a 4, but thats the one position we are set at for years...

another one i will never understand is nic batum... ugh

[Skin]

I have ZERO confidence that if given a max contract that Bynum would fulfill it being healthy. That's why I would rather have Thompson who doesn't have chronic progressive skeletal problems and would come at a cheaper contract. So no, it wasn't a joke and I do think Thompson can be a good starting Center for a Championship caliber team. Depends what else you have around him. He scores inside, rebounds and defends inside at 6'11, 250. There have been many championship teams with inferior presence at C.

Wait, we must be talking about two different guys. I meant the Jason Thompson that plays for Sacramento, the same Jason Thompson that was so good, he only started about 2/3 of the games he played last year; the 9 Points per game / 7 RPG Jason Thompson.

Which Jason Thompson did you mean?

I'd rather not get into a back and forth sarcastic rant with you (I do enjoy them from time to time), but yea... that Jason Thompson. Playing next to the black hole that is DeMarcus Cousin's didn't exactly make it easy for JT to get his. But when given minutes, it's hard to criticize his play. I think too often fans will look at stat numbers and form an opinion of a player before even analyzing him or his game more carefully. But if you're a stat follower, feel free to take a look at JT's numbers. I'd imagine based on 40 min a game, you'd see a nice stat line...and I think there is significant upside to his game still.

http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/players/447 ... pU_v3XPaB4

Again, I can't stress enough how I think giving Bynum a max contract that he won't play out being healthy to the end would be a huge mistake for the Magic.

[tiderulz]

JT isnt a savior, but at 6'11, he could pinch hit at center. i could easily see him doing 10/10, and on a cheap contract, that isnt bad at all. We obviously arent keeping Ryno, so i would be fine with a double S&T if possible, and swap those two.

and im not a fan of Bynum. He is more fluid on offense than Dwight, but i dont believe he will last another 4-5 years on those knees.

[TDJacksonville]

JT isnt a savior, but at 6'11, he could pinch hit at center. i could easily see him doing 10/10, and on a cheap contract, that isnt bad at all. We obviously arent keeping Ryno, so i would be fine with a double S&T if possible, and swap those two.

and im not a fan of Bynum. He is more fluid on offense than Dwight, but i dont believe he will last another 4-5 years on those knees.

ya lets trade for a guy whos going to take away PT from Nicholson and O'quinn who both are younger and better prospects. only reason thompson might be okay is just for him playing center but hes average at best

[NEM]

jason thompson per36 numbers for his career (two years without DMC):

13.8 ppg, 9.6 rpg, 1.7 apg, 0.7 spg, 1.0 bpg on 49.8% FG, and 66% ft (declining every year from 69 to 72 to 61 to 60)

he is nothing more than an average starter.. like i said, if we needed a 4, id get him... but we dont, so who cares

[NEM]

and if he is a center, thats a terrible FG%...

[RickB-Orlando]

I have ZERO confidence that if given a max contract that Bynum would fulfill it being healthy. That's why I would rather have Thompson who doesn't have chronic progressive skeletal problems and would come at a cheaper contract. So no, it wasn't a joke and I do think Thompson can be a good starting Center for a Championship caliber team. Depends what else you have around him. He scores inside, rebounds and defends inside at 6'11, 250. There have been many championship teams with inferior presence at C.

Wait, we must be talking about two different guys. I meant the Jason Thompson that plays for Sacramento, the same Jason Thompson that was so good, he only started about 2/3 of the games he played last year; the 9 Points per game / 7 RPG Jason Thompson.

Which Jason Thompson did you mean?

I'd rather not get into a back and forth sarcastic rant with you (I do enjoy them from time to time), but yea... that Jason Thompson. Playing next to the black hole that is DeMarcus Cousin's didn't exactly make it easy for JT to get his. But when given minutes, it's hard to criticize his play. I think too often fans will look at stat numbers and form an opinion of a player before even analyzing him or his game more carefully. But if you're a stat follower, feel free to take a look at JT's numbers. I'd imagine based on 40 min a game, you'd see a nice stat line...and I think there is significant upside to his game still.

http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/players/447 ... pU_v3XPaB4

Again, I can't stress enough how I think giving Bynum a max contract that he won't play out being healthy to the end would be a huge mistake for the Magic.

I think Thompson is a fine piece to have on a team, but I honestly just don't see him fitting into the same conversation as Howard or Bynum from a skill perspective. He's just not at their level.

What I notice about Thompson is for some reason, he plays most of his team's games but he doesn't start them all - only about 2/3 - and that's consistent across his career. His best year - what I think you can expect from him - was about 32 MPG, averaging around 12.5/8.5.

I don't know why he doesn't start every game, and I don't know why he has only played around 25 MPG the past two years. I do know he's on a Sacramento team that was not that great, and he didn't have a significant impact, which makes me question his ability to play a key role versus being a secondary contributor on a top-tier team.

[Idunkonyou2]

Exactly NEM. We don't need a PF. If we really wanted to do a S&T with Anderson, we need to ask for a PG back, not another PF.

[BadMofoPimp]

Rumblings I am hearing are that the Magic may not trade Dwight at all being in the end, his choices next summer would be worse than what the Magic have to offer.

Dwight gonna prove y'all wrong!! BOOK IT!!

C'mon dude.. It's over

No, I am not saying he is going to stay, but the Magic may just not trade him and force him to accept less options or actually stay.

Because, this is a business, from what I hear, Dwight staying even for just one year would mean $50 million in Devos pockets. Why make a bad trade and risk lose $50 million.

[TDJacksonville]

Exactly NEM. We don't need a PF. If we really wanted to do a S&T with Anderson, we need to ask for a PG back, not another PF.

i would rather go for a Wing but a PG would be good aswell

[Shishnizzle]

In my opinion the Lakers are like evil geniuses. They pulled it off with Gasol. Last year they were probably like the Magic fans will never let them trade Dwight to us. So what can we do? There like oh I got it. We have to create another evil entity even more hated than us. By the time we are done with this Russian Magic fans will be happy to trade him here. Yeh but who do we trade them? We will trade them Bynum. Your crazy they will never go for that. Yeh they will, we just have to act like we really are having a hard letting him go. Muahhaaahahah

[NEM]

Exactly NEM. We don't need a PF. If we really wanted to do a S&T with Anderson, we need to ask for a PG back, not another PF.

i would rather go for a Wing but a PG would be good aswell

either way... we just need someone that can create off the dribble for himself and for others... we have needed that since francis fell off the face of the earth...

[dariusl7]

Rumblings I am hearing are that the Magic may not trade Dwight at all being in the end, his choices next summer would be worse than what the Magic have to offer.

This was my thinking all along which is why I am against trading him. Wait Henny. Whoever is rumbling, keep rumbling!!!!!

It has to be at least a possibility and it is my preference until I see better offers than what we see now.

[tiderulz]

JT isnt a savior, but at 6'11, he could pinch hit at center. i could easily see him doing 10/10, and on a cheap contract, that isnt bad at all. We obviously arent keeping Ryno, so i would be fine with a double S&T if possible, and swap those two.

and im not a fan of Bynum. He is more fluid on offense than Dwight, but i dont believe he will last another 4-5 years on those knees.

ya lets trade for a guy whos going to take away PT from Nicholson and O'quinn who both are younger and better prospects. only reason thompson might be okay is just for him playing center but hes average at best

you are worried about JT taking time away from a 2nd round pick, when JT has already played at the NBA level? not saying he is a star, but cmon man, be real. and because he isnt a star, there is no reason he couldnt play less minutes to even SEE if O'Quinn can play in the NBA. there is a reason a lot of 2nd rounders dont make an NBA roster.

And you saw where i said he could average and 10/10 would be good. Unless you like seeing our presumed center BBD getting blocked at the rim because he has trouble dunking. And Thompson is only 25, its not like he is about to hit a rocking chair.

[OrlChamps2030]

Jason Thompson is an above average big man who gets boards and has a decent touch around the basket.

Getting him for the MLE would be cool if we didnt have like six PF's already

[backasswards]

In the course of a year, this board went from thinking our scrubs could land CP3, Iggy, Gay, <insert another team's best player>.

Now everyone is trying to figure out which offer for Dwight involving another team's scrubs would be best.

Times have changed.

[Furinkazan]

I have ZERO confidence that if given a max contract that Bynum would fulfill it being healthy. That's why I would rather have Thompson who doesn't have chronic progressive skeletal problems and would come at a cheaper contract. So no, it wasn't a joke and I do think Thompson can be a good starting Center for a Championship caliber team. Depends what else you have around him. He scores inside, rebounds and defends inside at 6'11, 250. There have been many championship teams with inferior presence at C.

Wait, we must be talking about two different guys. I meant the Jason Thompson that plays for Sacramento, the same Jason Thompson that was so good, he only started about 2/3 of the games he played last year; the 9 Points per game / 7 RPG Jason Thompson.

Which Jason Thompson did you mean?

I'd rather not get into a back and forth sarcastic rant with you (I do enjoy them from time to time), but yea... that Jason Thompson. Playing next to the black hole that is DeMarcus Cousin's didn't exactly make it easy for JT to get his. But when given minutes, it's hard to criticize his play. I think too often fans will look at stat numbers and form an opinion of a player before even analyzing him or his game more carefully. But if you're a stat follower, feel free to take a look at JT's numbers. I'd imagine based on 40 min a game, you'd see a nice stat line...and I think there is significant upside to his game still.

http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/players/447 ... pU_v3XPaB4

Again, I can't stress enough how I think giving Bynum a max contract that he won't play out being healthy to the end would be a huge mistake for the Magic.

Im not sure what is your fight about guys
but
I watched all sacto games last season
Thompson is not a star and never will be
but even though he had some dumb-o plays ...he is solid...
certainly seen worse guys being paid close to 10 mil a year.

[tiderulz]

Jason Thompson is an above average big man who gets boards and has a decent touch around the basket.

Getting him for the MLE would be cool if we didnt have like six PF's already

he plays center, why is everyone calling him a PF?

[trebone]

How did this thread get hijacked about a backup power forward on a lottery team???

[SOUL]

Idk.

Anyway, I just want a good trade. I feel like the last 5 years we are always getting hoodwinked, taking salary, not getting rookies, etc