Official: Reggie Evans to BKN for future 2nd

[njncarter15]

S&T for only 3 years $5 million total. I love it for the energy and rebounding he brings off the bench. You could see what kind of an impact he made on the Clippers last season, especially in that comeback against Memphis. Why anyone would want Johan Petro at 3.5 per when you can get Reggie Evans at half that is beyond me. I love it for the Nets.

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[Carl_Monday]

Nice move by the Nets. I was hoping that the Warriors would pick him up. Oh well.

[Bentley1225]

Why did the Nets do a sign and trade?. Evans was a UFA. Could they not have signed him without giving up a 2nd rounder?

[Carl_Monday]

Why did the Nets do a sign and trade?. Evans was a UFA. Could they not have signed him without giving up a 2nd rounder?

I would imagine that they want to keep all of thier exemptions after their master plan comes to fruition. If everything works out, they'll only have Williams, Wallace, Johnson and Dwight on their roster. I'm sure they'll get the token ring-chasing vets to sign for the minimum, but they'll still need to round out the roster somehow.

[njncarter15]

I was wondering the same thing. I'm not really good with salary cap rules and regulations and such, but figured it had to do with BKN being over the cap? Either way, I don't think the second will be very valuable at all, and probably conveyed in the distant future

[njncarter15]

Why did the Nets do a sign and trade?. Evans was a UFA. Could they not have signed him without giving up a 2nd rounder?

I would imagine that they want to keep all of thier exemptions after their master plan comes to fruition. If everything works out, they'll only have Williams, Wallace, Johnson and Dwight on their roster. I'm sure they'll get the token ring-chasing vets to sign for the minimum, but they'll still need to round out the roster somehow.

Right, we probably would've had to use one of those small exceptions to sign him outright, no? Plus the MLE on Teletovic (in addition to the "Big Four" that you mentioned)

[njncarter15]

Why did the Nets do a sign and trade?. Evans was a UFA. Could they not have signed him without giving up a 2nd rounder?

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Probably a 2017 or 2018 2nd rounder. I'd imagine it'd be protected too

[Bentley1225]

With reference to the Nets exemptions, Reggie signed before the Nets go over the cap. So again, why did the Nets have to do a sign and trade?. Is there something Im missing?

[Trader_Joe]

With reference to the Nets exemptions, Reggie signed before the Nets go over the cap. So again, why did the Nets have to do a sign and trade?. Is there something Im missing?

Nets are over the cap as they have not renounced any cap holds. That's how they were able to offer Teletovic the full MLE of $5m.

[Carl_Monday]

With reference to the Nets exemptions, Reggie signed before the Nets go over the cap. So again, why did the Nets have to do a sign and trade?. Is there something Im missing?

Brooklyn currently is over the cap though with all of their cap holds, so they do get a couple of exemptions to use (the MLE and whatever the biannual one is called now). The plan is to get Johnson in a trade, re-sign Williams and Wallace, and the S&T for Howard with Lopez Brooks and Humphreys. Even if the Howard trade doesn't go down, they'll still be over the cap with the cap-holds to Humphries and Lopez.

I'm definitley not a "certified capologist", and that's my half-assed attempt at explaining the CBA stuff as best I know it.

[Bentley1225]

With reference to the Nets exemptions, Reggie signed before the Nets go over the cap. So again, why did the Nets have to do a sign and trade?. Is there something Im missing?

Brooklyn currently is over the cap though with all of their cap holds, so they do get a couple of exemptions to use (the MLE and whatever the biannual one is called now). The plan is to get Johnson in a trade, re-sign Williams and Wallace, and the S&T for Howard with Lopez Brooks and Humphreys. Even if the Howard trade doesn't go down, they'll still be over the cap with the cap-holds to Humphries and Lopez.

I'm definitley not a "certified capologist", and that's my half-assed attempt at explaining the CBA stuff as best I know it.

If they are over the cap, they must have used a part of their full MLE ($5.76 million) or bi-annual mini MLE ($2.5 million) to sign Reggie Evans. If that is the case then again, why did they have to do a sign and trade? Could they not just have signed him outright?

[Trader_Joe]

If they are over the cap, they must have used a part of their full MLE ($5.76 million) or bi-annual mini MLE ($2.5 million) to sign Reggie Evans. If that is the case then again, why did they have to do a sign and trade? Could they not just have signed him outright?

They are using their MLE on Teletovic and had a TE (2 actually) from the Wallace trade that they used for this deal. They still have the Bi-Annual Exception. They used the trade exception to save the BAE, I assume.

[Bentley1225]

If they are over the cap, they must have used a part of their full MLE ($5.76 million) or bi-annual mini MLE ($2.5 million) to sign Reggie Evans. If that is the case then again, why did they have to do a sign and trade? Could they not just have signed him outright?

They are using their MLE on Teletovic and had a TE (2 actually) from the Wallace trade that they used for this deal. They still have the Bi-Annual Exception. They used the trade exception to save the BAE, I assume.

Ah ok, trade exemption makes sense. I guess Reggie refused to sign for 1 year VM and wanted some security. I guess this allows Nets to still use full mini MLE ($2.5 million)

[Carl_Monday]

If they are over the cap, they must have used a part of their full MLE ($5.76 million) or bi-annual mini MLE ($2.5 million) to sign Reggie Evans. If that is the case then again, why did they have to do a sign and trade? Could they not just have signed him outright?

Yes, they could have. Since the Nets already used their MLE on Teletovic (forgot to mention that earlier), they could have used the bi-annual mini MLE on Evans. I forget if the years are different on that one (2-year max?), but the money would've been close.

Assuming the Dwight thing goes through, they would have had a roster of Dwight, Williams, Wallace, Johnson, Teletovic, and Evans. They would have had to fill out the last 9 roster spots with veterans minimum players. By doing what they did, they would at least get to sign one player to that bi-annual mini MLE, and the other 8 would have been vet minimums. I guess they saw that as more worthwhile than the 2017 2nd rounder that they traded. Just guessing as to the logic, because that's the only thing that I could think of.


EDIT: Damn it Trader Joe! I'll just let you take all the questions from here on out.

[Trader_Joe]

If they are over the cap, they must have used a part of their full MLE ($5.76 million) or bi-annual mini MLE ($2.5 million) to sign Reggie Evans. If that is the case then again, why did they have to do a sign and trade? Could they not just have signed him outright?

They are using their MLE on Teletovic and had a TE (2 actually) from the Wallace trade that they used for this deal. They still have the Bi-Annual Exception. They used the trade exception to save the BAE, I assume.

Ah ok, trade exemption makes sense. I guess Reggie refused to sign for 1 year VM and wanted some security. I guess this allows Nets to still use full mini MLE ($2.5 million)

No.. they don't have the mini-MLE since they were not under the cap.. they got the full $5m MLE (Teletovic) and still have the Bi Annual Exception of $2m, which I don't know if they will use or not, since they have to see what they can do with Humphries and can't go above $74m.

[HartfordWhalers]

Tacked on a poll, will add to the list of deals.

Really like it for the Nets. For the Clippers, I suppose something is better then nothing, but they should have kept him.