Woj: Andrew Bynum is top target for Dwight Howard trade

[Shaheen]

Bynum > Lopez
Not even close, don't kid yourselves.

The Magic can have an All-Star center to build around if they want him. If they don't, oh well, good luck with Hump and Lopez front court with low picks. That'll fill them seats up.

Ok calm down.

Its one Heat fan who is saying this. I can agree that Andrew Bynum is a better player than Brook Lopez.

However, I still think our deal is better. Bynum is no franchise player. And Brooks and three picks are valuable. I don't care if they are 28th. That can bring you back quality bench player and maybe even a starter.

If you think an Andrew Bynum lead team is going to to fill up seats you need a reality check. They are going straight to the lottery either way.

[Ronito]

Man, people really love DRR. Look at Lopez's offensive board rate, it's fine.

[Shaheen]

In the worse case scenario,,,Whats really gonna tick me off is seeing Bynum being the man in Orlando averaging 30 points and 15 rebounds per game....

LOL.

Lets see him average 20 first. And stay healthy for more than one season.

[Ronito]

Bynum > Lopez
Not even close, don't kid yourselves.

The Magic can have an All-Star center to build around if they want him. If they don't, oh well, good luck with Hump and Lopez front court with low picks. That'll fill them seats up.

They'll also be forced to give him the full max and take on salary. I'm sure they'll want to fill seats up when they're rebuilding.

And how can I forgot about the Lakers unwilling to do the deal unless Dwight extends.

[te887848]

Bynum is immeasurably better than any combination of junk the Nets can offer for Dwight. He's much better than Lopez, much better than Lopez and Brooks combined, much better than 3 useless 1st round near #30 picks and whatever else Brooklyn plans to offer.

No doubt LA has the best trade offer. It's simply a matter of where he's willing to commit to a long term extension. Even if it is Brooklyn, too bad he opted in and Brooklyn used up all their cap room and can't sign him.

It makes you really wonder just how dumb some of these athletes really are. To not be able to comprehend the simple concept that a team can spend a limited amount of money on signed free agents, to be literally 3 months away from having every right to sign with your dream team in Brooklyn, then opting into your contract like a moron and whining and moaning like a baby just 3 months later that you want to be traded to a team that has neither sufficient cap space to sign you outright nor valuable trade assets to interest the Magic in a trade.

[Ronito]

As long as Dallas/Atlanta (who I don't event think is a threat, but some do)/any other team that could pose as a threat to sign Dwight outright has the cap space next summer, the Magic will trade him. Whether it's before the season, during the season, or next offseason.

Dwight can go to his #2 destination (Dallas) and Orlando gets nothing, or Orlando can trade him to his #1 option (Brooklyn) and Magic can get something back. Dwight's agent just needs to make sure to not screw it up this time.

[Josephpaul]

I have question why are so many people against Dwight going to LA?but have no problems with him going to Brooklyn?

[swag2011]

Bynum > Lopez
Not even close, don't kid yourselves.

The Magic can have an All-Star center to build around if they want him. If they don't, oh well, good luck with Hump and Lopez front court with low picks. That'll fill them seats up.

Ok calm down.

Its one Heat fan who is saying this. I can agree that Andrew Bynum is a better player than Brook Lopez.

However, I still think our deal is better. Bynum is no franchise player. And Brooks and three picks are valuable. I don't care if they are 28th. That can bring you back quality bench player and maybe even a starter.

If you think an Andrew Bynum lead team is going to to fill up seats you need a reality check. They are going straight to the lottery either way.

LOL you think the Nets deal is better because you're a Nets fan and you want Dwight to come to brooklyn. You say Bynum isn't a franchise player, yet Brooks, Humphries, Lopez or whatever they are offering are franchise players lol? You imply that an Andrew Bynum led team won't fill up seats, yet you think the trash that the Nets are offering will? Stop If they are going to the lottery anyway, might as well go with the 2nd best center in the league who is only 24 years old, right? At least it won't be a HUGE of a drop off from Dwight like the Nets offer.

If anything, the Houston offer would be the best, since they'd be getting alot of young talent AND picks i believe. But if it came down to it, obviously the Lakers deal is better than the Nets deal.

[Shaheen]

Bynum is immeasurably better than any combination of junk the Nets can offer for Dwight. He's much better than Lopez, much better than Lopez and Brooks combined, much better than 3 useless 1st round near #30 picks and whatever else Brooklyn plans to offer.

No doubt LA has the best trade offer. It's simply a matter of where he's willing to commit to a long term extension. Even if it is Brooklyn, too bad he opted in and Brooklyn used up all their cap room and can't sign him.

It makes you really wonder just how dumb some of these athletes really are. To not be able to comprehend the simple concept that a team can spend a limited amount of money on signed free agents, to be literally 3 months away from having every right to sign with your dream team in Brooklyn, then opting into your contract like a moron and whining and moaning like a baby just 3 months later that you want to be traded to a team that has neither sufficient cap space to sign you outright nor valuable trade assets to interest the Magic in a trade.

Late first round picks are useless. You can never get value in the first round.

Tony Parker was taken at 29 by San Antonio in 2001.

Tony Parker was the Finals MVP in 2007.

This means this championship was useless.

[lodom7]

Lopez can become a better rebounder but he will still be a mediocre overall player, Brooks will probably end up being a player similar to Jamal Crawford and the Nets picks are late first rounders, not exactly a breathtaking deal.

[Josephpaul]

How many Tony parkers are in the late rounds now days

[Shaheen]

LOL you think the Nets deal is better because you're a Nets fan and you want Dwight to come to brooklyn. You say Bynum isn't a franchise player, yet Brooks, Humphries, Lopez or whatever they are offering are franchise players lol? You imply that an Andrew Bynum led team won't fill up seats, yet you think the trash that the Nets are offering will? Stop If they are going to the lottery anyway, might as well go with the 2nd best center in the league who is only 24 years old, right? At least it won't be a HUGE of a drop off from Dwight like the Nets offer.

If anything, the Houston offer would be the best, since they'd be getting alot of young talent AND picks i believe. But if it came down to it, obviously the Lakers deal is better than the Nets deal.

Whatever. We all have opinions.

No if you read my post I said that none of these guys are franchise players or will fill up seats. You have serious issues with reading comprehension.

Or you might as well go to the lottery with a good center, a good shooting guard, and several picks. It will be a huge drop off from Dwight.

Bynum is not in the same tier as Dwight. Don't make me laugh. And thats assuming he can stay healthy.

Not to mention the best part. Bynum can leave Orlando next off season. Which would make the deal completely and utterly useless.

[Kupchak9]

Bynum is immeasurably better than any combination of junk the Nets can offer for Dwight. He's much better than Lopez, much better than Lopez and Brooks combined, much better than 3 useless 1st round near #30 picks and whatever else Brooklyn plans to offer.

No doubt LA has the best trade offer. It's simply a matter of where he's willing to commit to a long term extension. Even if it is Brooklyn, too bad he opted in and Brooklyn used up all their cap room and can't sign him.

It makes you really wonder just how dumb some of these athletes really are. To not be able to comprehend the simple concept that a team can spend a limited amount of money on signed free agents, to be literally 3 months away from having every right to sign with your dream team in Brooklyn, then opting into your contract like a moron and whining and moaning like a baby just 3 months later that you want to be traded to a team that has neither sufficient cap space to sign you outright nor valuable trade assets to interest the Magic in a trade.

Late first round picks are useless. You can never get value in the first round.

Tony Parker was taken at 29 by San Antonio in 2001.

Tony Parker was the Finals MVP in 2007.

This means this championship was useless.

So with that logic, you're saying that the Magic should just suck ass for 6 years and then magically win a championship with the 2013 pick they get. Considering you don't factor in having a Tim Duncan, Manu Ginobili and Greg Popovich. That is what your statement implies.

[Shaheen]

Lopez can become a better rebounder but he will still be a mediocre overall player, Brooks will probably end up being a player similar to Jamal Crawford and the Nets picks are late first rounders, not exactly a breathtaking deal.

If Lopez can get to 8 or 9 rebounds he will not be mediocre. He can already average over 20 points a game. I would put his ceiling at 25 points a game since he's only 23.

That is not a mediocre player. In fact its probably an alls-tar level player.

Not saying it will happen but it could. Brooks is not the chucker Crawford is. He's not shooting 40% per game even his rookie year.

[lodom7]

LOL you think the Nets deal is better because you're a Nets fan and you want Dwight to come to brooklyn. You say Bynum isn't a franchise player, yet Brooks, Humphries, Lopez or whatever they are offering are franchise players lol? You imply that an Andrew Bynum led team won't fill up seats, yet you think the trash that the Nets are offering will? Stop If they are going to the lottery anyway, might as well go with the 2nd best center in the league who is only 24 years old, right? At least it won't be a HUGE of a drop off from Dwight like the Nets offer.

If anything, the Houston offer would be the best, since they'd be getting alot of young talent AND picks i believe. But if it came down to it, obviously the Lakers deal is better than the Nets deal.

Whatever. We all have opinions.

No if you read my post I said that none of these guys are franchise players or will fill up seats. You have serious issues with reading comprehension.

Or you might as well go to the lottery with a good center, a good shooting guard, and several picks. It will be a huge drop off from Dwight.

Bynum is not in the same tier as Dwight. Don't make me laugh. And thats assuming he can stay healthy.

Not to mention the best part. Bynum can leave Orlando next off season. Which would make the deal completely and utterly useless.

"Bynum not in the same tier as Dwight"

oh God please don't let your emotions get the best of you while posting

[te887848]

Yes, the amazing sample size of one player who defied the odds and exceeded expectations of being a bench player/scrub certainly proves that end of the first round picks are valuable - especially ones that can't even be used for 3 years, for 5 years! What a bright future to look forward to having a few #30 picks in 2015 and 2017!

[Kupchak9]

Lopez can become a better rebounder but he will still be a mediocre overall player, Brooks will probably end up being a player similar to Jamal Crawford and the Nets picks are late first rounders, not exactly a breathtaking deal.

If Lopez can get to 8 or 9 rebounds he will not be mediocre. He can already average over 20 points a game. I would put his ceiling at 25 points a game since he's only 23.

That is not a mediocre player. In fact its probably an alls-tar level player.

Not saying it will happen but it could. Brooks is not the chucker Crawford is. He's not shooting 40% per game even his rookie year.

The fact that you don't even know how old Brook is ends the conversation...

[Shaheen]

So with that logic, you're saying that the Magic should just suck ass for 6 years and then magically win a championship with the 2013 pick they get. Considering you don't factor in having a Tim Duncan, Manu Ginobili and Greg Popovich. That is what your statement implies.

The Magic are going to suck for a while. It doesn't matter who they get in return for Dwight. Lowry, Bynum, or Lopez.

You want to get as many good quality players as you can. The Nets are offering you 3 and three potentials. The Lakers are offering you one good center and Metta World War.

So what if he had Duncan and Ginboli. He was the leader of that team. Tank next year get Shabazz. Then draft really well in the second round and find a star in the Euroleague. Theres your Ginboli.

Its possible to do.

Don't get me wrong I'm not saying you will certainly find talent in the late first round. But its very possible to find good players there. And its improbable but possible to find a star like Parker.

[OneWhoKnocks]

In the worse case scenario,,,Whats really gonna tick me off is seeing Bynum being the man in Orlando averaging 30 points and 15 rebounds per game....

LOL.

Lets see him average 20 first. And stay healthy for more than one season.

He averaged 18 as a 2nd/mostly third otpion. He has the best offensive repertoire for a big in todays NBA. I don't think he'll go 30 and 15, but 22-24/13 sounds very reachable as a first option. He's also been healthy for almost 2 years.

The Magic have very little leverage. I don't usually agree with Laker fans, but if the Magic FO really feel Humphries and Lopez + 3 late first round picks is going to help them, they're going to be in for an unpleasant surprise. If they can get something like Dwight + Jrich/Hedo for Bynum + Metta + future 1st round pick at this point they shouldn't be too greedy or they will screw over their franchise for years to come.

[Shaheen]

"Bynum not in the same tier as Dwight"

oh God please don't let your emotions get the best of you while posting

Don't kid yourself. Bynum is a decent scorer and a good rebounder but he's no Dwight.

Dwight is a defensive monster. Bynum is half the defender Dwight is. And he is not close to as good of a scorer. And his durability is not close either. Bynum has had one healthy and productive season in his career. Dwight has had one serious injury this summer his entire career.

Comparing Bynum to Dwight is pure homerism on your part. The only reason he is starting on the all-star team i because the Center position is a joke nowadays.