Woj: Andrew Bynum is top target for Dwight Howard trade

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Re: Woj: Andrew Bynum is top target for Dwight Howard trade 

Post#421 » by Kobe System » Wed Jul 4, 2012 5:58 am

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Shaheen wrote:Don't kid yourself. Bynum is a decent scorer and a good rebounder but he's no Dwight.

Dwight is a defensive monster. Bynum is half the defender Dwight is. And he is not close to as good of a scorer. And his durability is not close either. Bynum has had one healthy and productive season in his career. Dwight has had one serious injury this summer his entire career.

Comparing Bynum to Dwight is pure homerism on your part. The only reason he is starting on the all-star team i because the Center position is a joke nowadays.


bynum is a much better offensive player than howard is. bynum has an actual offensive repertoire. howard has athleticism


No.

Bynum's entire offensive "repertoire" is based off looks away from Kobe and Gasol. Take them off the team and lets see how offensively talented he is. Dwight has NOTHING.

Dwight Howard has scored 46 points in an NBA game. Lets see Bynum do that.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NPuM33CkmyE[/youtube]

Hows this for repertoire?


This goes to show that you are not watching Lakers basketball. Sure, kobe can create for Bynum. But I don't know how can Pau create for him. Lakers don't have a shooter like Dwight has on his team. With Lakers you can double Bynum and you can get away with it. You can even play zone. Now surround Bynum with shooters and you will see his true potential. He's a beast.
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Re: Woj: Andrew Bynum is top target for Dwight Howard trade 

Post#422 » by Shaheen » Wed Jul 4, 2012 6:00 am

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I saw in another one of your posts you said "Dwight Howard has scored 46 points in an NBA game. Lets see Bynum do that."

Well while Bynum hasn't scored 46, he has scored 42. This was in 09, right in the midst of all his injuries. At age 21 i remind you.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zqtkZRvumws
and LOL at lopez being a better scorer than Bynum and supposedly having better post moves. I expect you to say that as a Nets fan though. though. I'm sorry, i didn't know Lopez was the opposing team's main focus when playing the Nets now. TRUE lol.

Anyway, back to the script. I agree that Bynum can't lead a team to the playoffs. What i'm saying is that having bynum won't be such a big drop off for the magic COMPARED to getting humphries, brooks, etc. Let me break down what i'm saying to you. Bynum>>>>>Lopez, Humphries, those picks etc. Either way it's gunna be a drop off, but from the MAGIC standpoint, would you rather have the 2nd best center in the NBA, or get Lopez and them, and basically be the New Jersey Nets lol?


Ok fine Bynum scored 42 points once. You win on that point. Also, don't act like that was your point. You stole that from the guy two posts above.

Lopez escores more points a game than Bynum and YES Lopez was the main focus on the Nets offense for the vast majority of his career. He only played with Deron half a season two years ago.

I don't agree Bynum>>>>>Lopez. More like Bynum>>Lopez. Based only on the fact that he can rebound much better. Lopez has the edge in scoring and I don't see a huge difference in defense either.

Brooks, Humphires (or whatever they trade him to a third team for), three first round picks>>>>>>>Metta World Peace.

The 2nd best center sounds great but its not all that. The 2nd best player in any position except Center would be a franchise player.
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Re: Woj: Andrew Bynum is top target for Dwight Howard trade 

Post#423 » by Kobe System » Wed Jul 4, 2012 6:03 am

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swag2011 wrote:
I saw in another one of your posts you said "Dwight Howard has scored 46 points in an NBA game. Lets see Bynum do that."

Well while Bynum hasn't scored 46, he has scored 42. This was in 09, right in the midst of all his injuries. At age 21 i remind you.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zqtkZRvumws
and LOL at lopez being a better scorer than Bynum and supposedly having better post moves. I expect you to say that as a Nets fan though. though. I'm sorry, i didn't know Lopez was the opposing team's main focus when playing the Nets now. TRUE lol.

Anyway, back to the script. I agree that Bynum can't lead a team to the playoffs. What i'm saying is that having bynum won't be such a big drop off for the magic COMPARED to getting humphries, brooks, etc. Let me break down what i'm saying to you. Bynum>>>>>Lopez, Humphries, those picks etc. Either way it's gunna be a drop off, but from the MAGIC standpoint, would you rather have the 2nd best center in the NBA, or get Lopez and them, and basically be the New Jersey Nets lol?


Ok fine Bynum scored 42 points once. You win on that point. Also, don't act like that was your point. You stole that from the guy two posts above.

Lopez escores more points a game than Bynum and YES Lopez was the main focus on the Nets offense for the vast majority of his career. He only played with Deron half a season two years ago.

I don't agree Bynum>>>>>Lopez. More like Bynum>>Lopez. Based only on the fact that he can rebound much better. Lopez has the edge in scoring and I don't see a huge difference in defense either.

Brooks, Humphires (or whatever they trade him to a third team for), three first round picks>>>>>>>Metta World Peace.

The 2nd best center sounds great but its not all that. The 2nd best player in any position except Center would be a franchise player.


Stop embarrassing your dude. But thanks for the laughs anyways. :lol:
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Re: Woj: Andrew Bynum is top target for Dwight Howard trade 

Post#424 » by Shaheen » Wed Jul 4, 2012 6:05 am

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This goes to show that you are not watching Lakers basketball. Sure, kobe can create for Bynum. But I don't know how can Pau create for him. Lakers don't have a shooter like Dwight has on his team. With Lakers you can double Bynum and you can get away with it. You can even play zone. Now surround Bynum with shooters and you will see his true potential. He's a beast.


Oh please I watch plenty of Laker basketball.

Like someone else pointed out when Kobe was out with injury Bynum shot 45%. How the **** is Kobe not a shooter. Everytime Bynum gets double teamed all he has to do is pass it to Kobe.

I would WAY WAY rather have Kobe and Gasol on my offense than any of the Magic's shooter. Which shooters are you even talking about? The Magic haven't had good shooters for years.

Turkoglu shoots 41%. Jameer Nelson 42%. Reddick shoots 42%. Richardson 42%.

Name me one good shooter on the team.
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Re: Woj: Andrew Bynum is top target for Dwight Howard trade 

Post#425 » by Shaheen » Wed Jul 4, 2012 6:07 am

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Stop embarrassing your dude. But thanks for the laughs anyways. :lol:


You've never seen Lopez play so stop talking. You're the one who just said you don't watch Laker basketball. I am 110% sure you don't watch the Nets.

And have probably never seen Lopez play. He is an excellent scorer. And he's never had Kobe or Gasol to bail him out on offense.
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Re: Woj: Andrew Bynum is top target for Dwight Howard trade 

Post#426 » by Kupchak9 » Wed Jul 4, 2012 6:09 am

Humphires will be looking for a 4-5 year contract at 9-10 mil + year if they take that their gonna be flooded with over paid power forwards with the likes of Glen Davis and Ryan Anderson.

Then their gonna be stuck at the 2 with Brooks Reddick and Richardson. None of which would be effective without given quality minutes.
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Re: Woj: Andrew Bynum is top target for Dwight Howard trade 

Post#427 » by Stebo_SSK » Wed Jul 4, 2012 6:13 am

Im a big Laker fan and anyone here that is a Laker fan that thinks Bynum is on Howard's level needs to get their eyes checked. Did you guys see Bynum in the playoffs this year? Howard would have NEVER and I repeat NEVER got outplayed by Javale McGee. Howard also doesnt get outworked multiple games by Kendrick Perkins either. Whoever is a Laker fan on here saying these homer like comments I challenge you to present any facts that Bynum is on Howard's level. If Bynum was a franchise guy or even close to it, LA wouldnt consider getting Howard for him.
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Re: Woj: Andrew Bynum is top target for Dwight Howard trade 

Post#428 » by swag2011 » Wed Jul 4, 2012 6:13 am

Shaheen wrote:
swag2011 wrote:
I saw in another one of your posts you said "Dwight Howard has scored 46 points in an NBA game. Lets see Bynum do that."

Well while Bynum hasn't scored 46, he has scored 42. This was in 09, right in the midst of all his injuries. At age 21 i remind you.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zqtkZRvumws
and LOL at lopez being a better scorer than Bynum and supposedly having better post moves. I expect you to say that as a Nets fan though. though. I'm sorry, i didn't know Lopez was the opposing team's main focus when playing the Nets now. TRUE lol.

Anyway, back to the script. I agree that Bynum can't lead a team to the playoffs. What i'm saying is that having bynum won't be such a big drop off for the magic COMPARED to getting humphries, brooks, etc. Let me break down what i'm saying to you. Bynum>>>>>Lopez, Humphries, those picks etc. Either way it's gunna be a drop off, but from the MAGIC standpoint, would you rather have the 2nd best center in the NBA, or get Lopez and them, and basically be the New Jersey Nets lol?


Ok fine Bynum scored 42 points once. You win on that point. Also, don't act like that was your point. You stole that from the guy two posts above.

Lopez escores more points a game than Bynum and YES Lopez was the main focus on the Nets offense for the vast majority of his career. He only played with Deron half a season two years ago.

I don't agree Bynum>>>>>Lopez. More like Bynum>>Lopez. Based only on the fact that he can rebound much better. Lopez has the edge in scoring and I don't see a huge difference in defense either.

Brooks, Humphires (or whatever they trade him to a third team for), three first round picks>>>>>>>Metta World Peace.

The 2nd best center sounds great but its not all that. The 2nd best player in any position except Center would be a franchise player.


I stole the age part from the poster, but i already had the video posted. You sound petty lol. And besides Bynum scored 36 points against the Clippers this year, completely effed up their entire frontline. My favorite game from him this year. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xyP0HDL6Fb8

Brook Lopez gives you one more point on worse shooting percentage yet he's better lol? Ok i'll take that, as hilarious as that may sound. Just curious because i need a good laugh, where do you rank Lopez among centers in the NBA?

Let's just put it this way. The Orlando Magic will tell us which deal is better. Clearly they dont' think Brooks, Humphries, and Lopez is better than Bynum, or else Dwight will be in Brooklyn right now partying it up with Deron.
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Post#429 » by Shaheen » Wed Jul 4, 2012 6:14 am

Kupchak9 wrote:Humphires will be looking for a 4-5 year contract at 9-10 mil + year if they take that their gonna be flooded with over paid power forwards with the likes of Glen Davis and Ryan Anderson.

Then their gonna be stuck at the 2 with Brooks Reddick and Richardson. None of which would be effective without given quality minutes.


Humphries is not gonna get that from anyone in the NBA. We saw what his value was last season. He ca get like 7 million a year. For like three years.

But besides that they are probably going to trade Humphries to a third team. I don't see him going to Orlando. There are plenty of teams which could us a decent PF.

They can just put Richardson at the 3. Not a big deal.
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Post#430 » by swag2011 » Wed Jul 4, 2012 6:17 am

Stebo_SSK wrote:Im a big Laker fan and anyone here that is a Laker fan that thinks Bynum is on Howard's level needs to get their eyes checked. Did you guys see Bynum in the playoffs this year? Howard would have NEVER and I repeat NEVER got outplayed by Javale McGee. Howard also doesnt get outworked multiple games by Kendrick Perkins either. Whoever is a Laker fan on here saying these homer like comments I challenge you to present any facts that Bynum is on Howard's level. If Bynum was a franchise guy or even close to it, LA wouldnt consider getting Howard for him.



Nobody said that. Not me. I said he's the 2nd best, and he's not close to Dwight defensively. Is Bynum not the 2nd best center? I mean please, fellow laker fan, correct me on that? I never said he was a franchise player either. Defense is the one thing that sets Bynum and Howard apart. Which i acknowledged.
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Post#431 » by Shaheen » Wed Jul 4, 2012 6:17 am

swag2011 wrote:
I stole the age part from the poster, but i already had the video posted. You sound petty lol. And besides Bynum scored 36 points against the Clippers this year, completely effed up their entire frontline. My favorite game from him this year. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xyP0HDL6Fb8

Brook Lopez gives you one more point on worse shooting percentage yet he's better lol? Ok i'll take that, as hilarious as that may sound. Just curious because i need a good laugh, where do you rank Lopez among centers in the NBA?

Let's just put it this way. The Orlando Magic will tell us which deal is better. Clearly they dont' think Brooks, Humphries, and Lopez is better than Bynum, or else Dwight will be in Brooklyn right now partying it up with Deron.


For the millionth time don't look at Lopez's stats last season. It was a five game sample most of which he came off the bench.

He averaged 20 points a game his last healthy season. And he has obviously improved his game since then. Bynum has never averaged 20 points a game.

Lopez is a top 5 center in the NBA. No question.

If you wanna judge it that way fine. But thats dumb because theres a million other factors involved. Like how if Dwight comes to LA he will not sign an extension making LA unlikely to do the trade.
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Re: Woj: Andrew Bynum is top target for Dwight Howard trade 

Post#432 » by Shaheen » Wed Jul 4, 2012 6:19 am

swag2011 wrote:
Stebo_SSK wrote:Im a big Laker fan and anyone here that is a Laker fan that thinks Bynum is on Howard's level needs to get their eyes checked. Did you guys see Bynum in the playoffs this year? Howard would have NEVER and I repeat NEVER got outplayed by Javale McGee. Howard also doesnt get outworked multiple games by Kendrick Perkins either. Whoever is a Laker fan on here saying these homer like comments I challenge you to present any facts that Bynum is on Howard's level. If Bynum was a franchise guy or even close to it, LA wouldnt consider getting Howard for him.



Nobody said that. Not me. I said he's the 2nd best, and he's not close to Dwight defensively. Is Bynum not the 2nd best center? I mean please, fellow laker fan, correct me on that? I never said he was a franchise player either. Defense is the one thing that sets Bynum and Howard apart. Which i acknowledged.


I said Bynum is not on the same tier as Howard. You said he was. So essentially you are saying they are on the same level. They are not.
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Re: Woj: Andrew Bynum is top target for Dwight Howard trade 

Post#433 » by mjba » Wed Jul 4, 2012 6:20 am

update? what does the deal look like?
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Post#434 » by Kupchak9 » Wed Jul 4, 2012 6:21 am

Shaheen wrote:
Kupchak9 wrote:Humphires will be looking for a 4-5 year contract at 9-10 mil + year if they take that their gonna be flooded with over paid power forwards with the likes of Glen Davis and Ryan Anderson.

Then their gonna be stuck at the 2 with Brooks Reddick and Richardson. None of which would be effective without given quality minutes.


Humphries is not gonna get that from anyone in the NBA. We saw what his value was last season. He ca get like 7 million a year. For like three years.

But besides that they are probably going to trade Humphries to a third team. I don't see him going to Orlando. There are plenty of teams which could us a decent PF.

They can just put Richardson at the 3. Not a big deal.


Well then they would have a perplexity of overpaid small forwards wouldnt they with Hedo, Richardson and Quentin
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Post#435 » by Shaheen » Wed Jul 4, 2012 6:24 am

mjba wrote:update? what does the deal look like?


No update.
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Post#436 » by mjba » Wed Jul 4, 2012 6:25 am

fugg. ty
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Post#437 » by Shaheen » Wed Jul 4, 2012 6:25 am

Kupchak9 wrote:

Well then they would have a perplexity of overpaid small forwards wouldnt they with Hedo, Richardson and Quentin


So what. Quentin Richardson is garbage. Dude shoots like 37% on 2 PPG. Send him to the end of the bench.

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