Ilysova or hump?

AntwanBoldin · Post #1 » by **AntwanBoldin** » Wed Jul 4, 2012 3:35 am

I'd like some d but you can't have everything.

I guess give me the shooter

BlueDawn · Post #2 » by **BlueDawn** » Wed Jul 4, 2012 3:39 am

Hump please. As awkward as that may get.

xam2k7 · Post #3 » by **xam2k7** » Wed Jul 4, 2012 3:45 am

this thread is just awkward. antwan wants some D and blue is all about hump.

BlueDawn · Post #4 » by **BlueDawn** » Wed Jul 4, 2012 3:50 am

xam2k7 wrote:this thread is just awkward. antwan wants some D and blue is all about hump.

Reading over the comments in the context you just put it in just gave me a good laugh. :lol:

Shaheen · Post #5 » by **Shaheen** » Wed Jul 4, 2012 4:03 am

i do not want to overpay Ilyasova!!!! Please BK. Two overpaid players is enough. I don't want him anywhere near this team. He can't even rebound well and with Lopez next to him we need some rebounding.

Bring back Mr. Kardashian. He's old reliable. Always bring you back a double double. Nothing more nothing less.

JoseRizal · Post #6 » by **JoseRizal** » Wed Jul 4, 2012 4:04 am

With Teletovic at the helm, I'll pick Hump...

Shark · Post #7 » by **Shark** » Wed Jul 4, 2012 4:11 am

Hump. Ilyasova + Tele is just so redundant. I'm still having a hard time believe that Ilyasova is the back up plan if we can't get Howard now.

ecuhus1981 · Post #8 » by **ecuhus1981** » Wed Jul 4, 2012 6:17 am

Honestly, I'm good with Teletovic and Evans as our PFs. But if King is dead-set on spending more money on one of these two, Kris is less redundant.

paul · Post #9 » by **paul** » Wed Jul 4, 2012 6:25 am

Ilyasova is the better player, and it's not close.

elcanis · Post #10 » by **elcanis** » Wed Jul 4, 2012 6:38 am

paul wrote:Ilyasova is the better player, and it's not close.

please tell us why

ecuhus1981 · Post #11 » by **ecuhus1981** » Wed Jul 4, 2012 6:40 am

paul wrote:Ilyasova is the better player, and it's not close.

Ersan is better, but not by all that much. Still, would you still take him even though we already have Mirza?

Honestly, I wish we had Ilyasova and Kidd, instead of Teletovic and either of Humphries or Ersan. We could have really used Jason well at the ends of games.

paul · Post #12 » by **paul** » Wed Jul 4, 2012 7:12 am

elcanis wrote:
paul wrote:Ilyasova is the better player, and it's not close.

please tell us why

He's a significantly better defender, had very similar production on a much better team last season despite playing almost 8mpg less, is a vastly superior and more diverse offensive player and is 2 years younger.

Do you need any more?

Shaheen wrote:He can't even rebound well and with Lopez next to him we need some rebounding.

Ilyasova had a higher rebound rate than Humphries last season.

xenith · Post #13 » by **xenith** » Wed Jul 4, 2012 8:54 am

ilyasova is much better player than kris but mr. kardashian is better fit with b.lopez

theFireBlanket · Post #14 » by **theFireBlanket** » Wed Jul 4, 2012 9:02 am

http://www.basketball-reference.com/pla ... nute::none

therealbig3 · Post #15 » by **therealbig3** » Wed Jul 4, 2012 9:04 am

paul wrote:Ilyasova had a higher rebound rate than Humphries last season.

?

No he didn't.

theFireBlanket · Post #16 » by **theFireBlanket** » Wed Jul 4, 2012 9:14 am

therealbig3 wrote:
paul wrote:Ilyasova had a higher rebound rate than Humphries last season.

?

No he didn't.

No, he did. See the link I posted, scroll to PER36 and look at TRB: 11.5 Ily, 11.3 Hump ie

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Sharcm1 · Post #17 » by **Sharcm1** » Wed Jul 4, 2012 10:11 am

hump. not only is he cheaper he is also a better fit for the current roster. we have the scorers we need the role players now. the hustle guys

Basileus777 · Post #18 » by **Basileus777** » Wed Jul 4, 2012 11:08 am

theFireBlanket wrote:
therealbig3 wrote:
paul wrote:Ilyasova had a higher rebound rate than Humphries last season.

?

No he didn't.

No, he did. See the link I posted, scroll to PER36 and look at TRB: 11.5 Ily, 11.3 Hump ie .

paul · Post #19 » by **paul** » Wed Jul 4, 2012 11:27 am

I was talking about their rebounds per minute.

ecuhus1981 · Post #20 » by **ecuhus1981** » Wed Jul 4, 2012 12:02 pm

We can parse rebounding numbers to decide who's better in that department, but really, it's basically a wash. The problem is, Kris doesn't bring much other than that. He's a better shot-blocker, but blocks can be a glory stat more than a reflection of actual defense (see: Camby, Marcus). Ersan is a smoother and more efficient scorer, both in the lane and from 3-point range.

To me, it comes down to team need. We're not going to have a problem scoring this year, so Ilyasova's advantages over Humphries may go underutilized. Meanwhile, if Kris can give us anything defensively that Ersan cannot, it could make a bigger impact in the W/L column.