Moderators: Danny Darko, TyCobb, Kilroy
destro wrote:Marc Stein @ESPNSteinLine
Sources briefed on talks say Lakers' reported S-and-T push for Nash blocked to date by Suns brass. Can't stomach dealing him to old rival
The Laker/Suns rivalry goes back further than just what happened in 2005 thru 2008. That was really the only brief period where they got the best of us. The 80's is the decade that traumatize them and even though they've changed ownership since that time some how they haven't shook it.Lakers-Texas wrote:Wowww Suns are really that butt hurt about us killing them each year? Well what about the time they did beat us when we had the likes of Smush and Kwame Brown? Is that our fault too that they lost the WCF?? Suns are such a butt hurt franchise it's literally laughable.
SmartWentCrazy wrote:It's extremely unlikely that they end up in the top 3.They're probably better off trying to win and giving Philly the 8th pick than tanking and giving them the 4th.
CJH248 wrote:LateRoundFlyer wrote:
I think it's fair to say a deal with NY wouldn't necessarily have to command that high a salary anyway, even though a $3m pittance probably won't cut it. The dude already lives there in the summer. He's a got a house in Greenwich Village. It'd be just as illustrious a destination as the Lakers in terms of bookending his career -- and it comes with the benefit of chasing a ring without joining his biggest rivals.
There is a zero percent chance New York wins the title in the next 3 years.
WCDYNASTY wrote:You again?? Really?? I know something else you need to stop
But just for the record those players were brought up by Aldridge and NOT by me! Read the previous posts! I personally don't think Nash is going to come to LA anyways.
LateRoundFlyer wrote:CJH248 wrote:LateRoundFlyer wrote:
I think it's fair to say a deal with NY wouldn't necessarily have to command that high a salary anyway, even though a $3m pittance probably won't cut it. The dude already lives there in the summer. He's a got a house in Greenwich Village. It'd be just as illustrious a destination as the Lakers in terms of bookending his career -- and it comes with the benefit of chasing a ring without joining his biggest rivals.
There is a zero percent chance New York wins the title in the next 3 years.
Really? Zero? You mean even worse than the Bobcats? Somebody get this guy to Vegas quick, he's really laying down the odds.WCDYNASTY wrote:You again?? Really?? I know something else you need to stop
But just for the record those players were brought up by Aldridge and NOT by me! Read the previous posts! I personally don't think Nash is going to come to LA anyways.
Oh but see, I do read all the related posts. That's actually the difference between you and me. But lol... you're probably right, I should cut you a break. You've got plenty of other people now calling you on your sh*t so why don't I just enjoy this?
Brb, grabbing a beer
DEEP3CL wrote:.
Bottom line is the Lakers aren't getting Nash. Don't want his old broken down ass anyway.
AcecardZ wrote:I'm going to be disliked for saying this but so what. Many Suns fans are vastly overrating Nash's value at this point. Also, and I don't begrudge Nashtay for this at all, some gm is going to overpay that guy when imho it's quite clear he's very much on the downside of his career.
On top of everything else the guy is awful at defense. The Lakers might get slightly better offensively with Nash, even that's not a guarantee at Nash's age although I will agree it's likely, but it's quite possible they're worse defensively with Nash playing PG than with Sessions.
Let the hate begin but before you get your feathers too ruffled I think Nash is amazing and one of the greatest pg's to play the game but time is definitely his enemy now.
AcecardZ wrote:shortodom wrote:Wasn't PHX saying last year that if Nash wanted to go to a championship that they understand and all that bs. Now that he wants to they're blocking it from happening, seems selfish Phx. Plus i never viewed PHX as a rival, PHX is just another team.
Bolded is the really funny part of it all. I never knew how hated the Lakers were by Suns fans until I met a buddy a few years ago from the Phoenix area. He went to ASU and is a huge Suns fan/Nash fan and absolutely roots against the Lakers with every ounce of energy in his body. I tried to explain to him that the hatred wasn't mutual but he wasn't having any of it. I tried to explain to him that the Lakers only real rivalry is with Boston and to a lesser extent SA and he wasn't having any of it. I've sat and watched many Suns games with him and rooted for Nash and he still cheers his lungs off every time a team makes a good play against the Lakers.
I proposed this to him knowing how huge of a Steve Nash fan he is. I asked him if Nash was traded to the Lakers, something that will never happen by the way because of the Suns' resentment and Nash's resentment towards the Lakers, and the Lakers were playing Miami in the NBA finals giving Nash an opportunity at his first championship who would he root for? Without a moments hesitation he said he'd root for the Heat to crush the Lakers even though his favorite athlete of all time was on the Lakers. That's some serious hatred right there.
Wile E. Coyote wrote:He's not going to put the Knicks over the top. They'll still get clubbed by Boston or Miami in the playoffs.
Doormatt wrote:lol did somone say nash was broken down? are you kidding?
Yeah he is.....do you not see him laying on the floor. His back is wrecked. You guys can't seem to understand what that means. Just because a guy hasn't had a plethora of injuries doesn't mean he's durable. Nash isn't even what he was 3 years ago, if you think so then I don't know what to say for you.Doormatt wrote:lol did somone say nash was broken down? are you kidding?
SmartWentCrazy wrote:It's extremely unlikely that they end up in the top 3.They're probably better off trying to win and giving Philly the 8th pick than tanking and giving them the 4th.
BlunnTashiz wrote:His production and efficiency are still elite and haven't suffered the drop off we've seen from the Kobester last year.
AcecardZ wrote:Look at Kobe's playoff numbers and keep trying to convince us that Kobe's game has fallen off that significantly.