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I don't get it. 

Post#1 » by Dezmondballins3 » Tue Jul 3, 2012 8:04 pm

I don't understand why the wolves would go after Batum when they already have Derrick Williams and they just traded for Chase Budinger who rick has a full on boner-ific man crush for so Batum would end up not getting the looks and playing time he deserves. Further more I don't understand if they want a good small why not extend Beasley and match whatever offer he gets which would be less then 12 million a year like they offered Batum. Why does Kahn stock up on one position (PG in that draft with rubio flynn and some other PG) and now trying to sign Batum when you have Derek and Budinger especially when they have a very glaring need at SG. Please someone try to explain this although it makes no sense so it would be very hard to explain unless you say they are looking to stock up for a big trade but you can't tell teams are really looking to trade an elite player for Batum, Budinger, or Williams
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Re: I don't get it. 

Post#2 » by Breakdown777 » Tue Jul 3, 2012 8:47 pm

I don't think you'll ever get it...

It might be best to just enjoy that Miami championship and not worry about what other teams like the Wolves are doing.
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Post#3 » by Saltine » Tue Jul 3, 2012 9:21 pm

The offense Adelman runs really doesn't have a SG or a SF, it has two wings with slightly different responsibilities. Batum and Budinger can play either position.
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Re: I don't get it. 

Post#4 » by Calinks » Tue Jul 3, 2012 9:31 pm

As far as Beasley is concerned the coaching staff doesn't believe in him. Yea, may be a lot cheaper but they don't think he will be a serviceable player for him so he isn't an option. If he had a better, more consistent season last year then maybe there would be a deal.

Chase and Batum will probably get plenty of time at 2 position as well.
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Re: I don't get it. 

Post#5 » by [RCG] » Tue Jul 3, 2012 9:48 pm

Williams is getting down so he can play SF, but has the ability & may be better at PF.
Batum is a long SF who also has the ability to play SG.
Budinger is an Adelman-guy who is naturally more of a SF but can also play SG.

In Adelman's system, offensively, the two wing players have similar roles. Defensively, Batum can guard 2s, Budinger is below average so doesn't really matter who he guards and Williams can guard 3 or 4s. No reason not to have all 3.
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Re: I don't get it. 

Post#6 » by AQuintus » Tue Jul 3, 2012 11:02 pm

Williams = SF/PF
Budinger = SF
Batum = SG/SF

What's not to get?
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Post#7 » by kingrory » Tue Jul 3, 2012 11:29 pm

Dezmondballins3 wrote:I don't understand why the wolves would go after Batum when they already have Derrick Williams and they just traded for Chase Budinger who rick has a full on boner-ific man crush for so Batum would end up not getting the looks and playing time he deserves. Further more I don't understand if they want a good small why not extend Beasley and match whatever offer he gets which would be less then 12 million a year like they offered Batum. Why does Kahn stock up on one position (PG in that draft with rubio flynn and some other PG) and now trying to sign Batum when you have Derek and Budinger especially when they have a very glaring need at SG. Please someone try to explain this although it makes no sense so it would be very hard to explain unless you say they are looking to stock up for a big trade but you can't tell teams are really looking to trade an elite player for Batum, Budinger, or Williams
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The "stocking up on PGs" theory is a bit wonky since Kahn knew Rubez would be inSpain for a couple more years. Thus, he took Johnny Flynn and Ty Lawson whom was traded quickly.

The "stocking up on PFs" theory has a bit more clout yet Kahn and the FO didn't have much of a choice in taking D-Will at the two spot as he was the consensus 2nd best player in the draft and no one was willing to move up.

As AQuintus cleared things up so eloquently, I don't have to. If anything we're stocking up on adept wing options, of which we had literally none last year.
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Post#8 » by Ayt » Wed Jul 4, 2012 6:18 pm

AQuintus wrote:Williams = SF/PF
Budinger = SF
Batum = SG/SF

What's not to get?


Plus, they are very good three point shooters (very important playing off of Rubio and Love, and something that was a major weakness last year), are great athletes who can get out on the break with Rubio, and they are smart players offensively which is important in Adelman's system.
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Post#9 » by Dezmondballins3 » Wed Jul 4, 2012 10:32 pm

if you think that Budinger or Batum are quick enough to guard the 2's in this league your going to be disappointed. It's not that i don't understand it. it's that my basketball knowledge tells me it wouldn't work and i assumed that people who get paid to make these decisions would be smart enough not to spend almost all of their cap room on a position they already have covered if you can't understand that it might be best for you to not to comment on these boards. I was hoping for some insight since i mean everyone here follows the team but you all just don't get what im saying. trust me if they don't make a move to get a starting potential shooting guard they won't make the playoffs so once this shows out to be a horrible decision I hope you remember that hey that smart guy on realgm told me this would be stupid then you can find me and apologize on here.
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Re: I don't get it. 

Post#10 » by Esohny » Wed Jul 4, 2012 10:46 pm

Well, besides the positional flexibility stated already, the team is clearly also in the market for a SG, since they've been talking to Roy/Mayo/Shved/etc. The team had exactly zero NBA caliber players at SG/SF last season, they've added 1, and are trying to add more. Not too difficult to get here.
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Post#11 » by [RCG] » Wed Jul 4, 2012 10:47 pm

Dezmondballins3 wrote:if you think that Budinger or Batum are quick enough to guard the 2's in this league your going to be disappointed. It's not that i don't understand it. it's that my basketball knowledge tells me it wouldn't work and i assumed that people who get paid to make these decisions would be smart enough not to spend almost all of their cap room on a position they already have covered if you can't understand that it might be best for you to not to comment on these boards. I was hoping for some insight since i mean everyone here follows the team but you all just don't get what im saying. trust me if they don't make a move to get a starting potential shooting guard they won't make the playoffs so once this shows out to be a horrible decision I hope you remember that hey that smart guy on realgm told me this would be stupid then you can find me and apologize on here.


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Post#12 » by theGreatRC » Wed Jul 4, 2012 10:52 pm

Dezmondballins3 wrote:I don't understand why the wolves would go after Batum when they already have Derrick Williams and they just traded for Chase Budinger who rick has a full on boner-ific man crush for so Batum would end up not getting the looks and playing time he deserves. Further more I don't understand if they want a good small why not extend Beasley and match whatever offer he gets which would be less then 12 million a year like they offered Batum. Why does Kahn stock up on one position (PG in that draft with rubio flynn and some other PG) and now trying to sign Batum when you have Derek and Budinger especially when they have a very glaring need at SG. Please someone try to explain this although it makes no sense so it would be very hard to explain unless you say they are looking to stock up for a big trade but you can't tell teams are really looking to trade an elite player for Batum, Budinger, or Williams
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There reason we're persuing Batum and letting Beas go is because one guy is great at one side of the ball(Beasley) and the other guy is good(not great) at both sides of the ball, but has all the tools to become great.

Derrick has shown he cannot keep up laterally with other SFs and got burned repeatedly on the perimeter. His 3pt shot and handles have been too inconsisten to give him the keys to the SF starting role. The staff are saying how he dropped some weight and he has a 225 lb goal in mind, but losing the weight doesn't always mean it will transfer over to your game.

Budinger trade doesn't automatically mean D-Will is gone, it just means we're prepared to trade him if the right offer comes along.

There really is no explanation as to why Kahn took Flynn after Rubio other than Rubio wasn't garunteed to come over to the USA right away unless he had the buyout money (Which he could have paid if he was a top 2-3 pick). As you can see, our GM doesn't exactly have the back track record.
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Re: I don't get it. 

Post#13 » by Saltine » Wed Jul 4, 2012 10:58 pm

lol,we weren't exactly starting Pippen and Jordan out there, and still would have made the playoffs if we had stayed healthy. Almost anyone is an upgrade, Budinger and Hummel are an upgrade over Wes Johnson. Acquiring Batum, Roy, Shved, Lee, or trading for Iggy are all fine moves for us, no matter where they play.
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Post#14 » by Adenusi » Wed Jul 4, 2012 11:35 pm

I still think what we offered Batum was a reach.
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Post#15 » by Vindicater » Thu Jul 5, 2012 1:10 am

Dezmondballins3 wrote:if you think that Budinger or Batum are quick enough to guard the 2's in this league your going to be disappointed. It's not that i don't understand it. it's that my basketball knowledge tells me it wouldn't work and i assumed that people who get paid to make these decisions would be smart enough not to spend almost all of their cap room on a position they already have covered if you can't understand that it might be best for you to not to comment on these boards. I was hoping for some insight since i mean everyone here follows the team but you all just don't get what im saying. trust me if they don't make a move to get a starting potential shooting guard they won't make the playoffs so once this shows out to be a horrible decision I hope you remember that hey that smart guy on realgm told me this would be stupid then you can find me and apologize on here.


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Re: I don't get it. 

Post#16 » by mandurugo » Thu Jul 5, 2012 1:23 am

Hey, do you guys remember this one time this super smart guy came to the wolves board and asked a bunch of really insightful questions and gave some really good advice?

Man, he was cool.
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Re: I don't get it. 

Post#17 » by Basti » Thu Jul 5, 2012 1:38 am

No but I remember the days of Wolves2011. Half the Celtics board most likely remembers him, too.
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Post#18 » by wolves_fan_82au » Thu Jul 5, 2012 4:45 am

Adenusi wrote:I still think what we offered Batum was a reach.


agreed,but if we still have money for a sg than i dont mind as much
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Re: I don't get it. 

Post#19 » by Klomp » Thu Jul 5, 2012 4:48 am

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Post#20 » by teamwillow » Thu Jul 5, 2012 3:25 pm

The real question: Is Batum white enough?

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