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Official Speculation Thread (Pt. XXXII Off-Season Edition)

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Re: Official Speculation Thread (Pt. XXXII Off-Season Editio 

Post#121 » by OrlandO » Thu Jul 5, 2012 6:02 pm

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rcklsscognition wrote:lol at everyone bitching about Jameer's contract. Stop crying that we didn't get Chris Paul. Take a moment to look at the other PGs, their age, contract figures, and then the FAs still left. Jameer is 30 years old and is on the decline? The only reason this guy doesn't put up 18/10 is SVG. Jameer's pass-to-assist numbers are great, but you don't see them on the stat sheet.

As in 10 assists a game? Now you're just taking the defending of Nelson too far. You're basically calling him an elite PG. He is and will always be a 5-6 assists a game type of PG at best. SVG has nothing to do with it. He could score 18 on a losing team.


Steve Nash averaged way less than 10 assists per game until he was 29 years old at which point he started averaging 10+. I see Jameer going up to 8-10 APG over the next 3 years if Dwight is gone.

You must be Nelson's number one fan to be saying this kind of stuff. You're telling me Nelson's assist numbers will almost double WITHOUT Dwight? That's a pretty crazy statement to make. I would be thrilled if his assist numbers stay the same without the best and one of the more athletic bigs in the game. Without Dwight, our perimeter players get locked down even more and there will be less freebies at the basket. How do you figure his assist numbers go up that much without Dwight?

And please stop comparing Nelson to Nash. They're completely different players. Players like Nash and Kidd have the superior ability to see plays before they unfold, are both taller, are both passers, and they don't need speed to play well. They have everything going for them when it comes to aging PGs in the NBA. Nelson relies on his athleticism to score AND pass. As he gets older, he's going to get worse, not better.

I think that stretch where Nelson was playing hard for his contract towards the end of regular season has clouded your judgement.
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Post#122 » by thelead » Thu Jul 5, 2012 6:03 pm

Did I just read someone proclaiming that SVG is the reason why Jameer hasn't averaged 10 assist per game???
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Re: Official Speculation Thread (Pt. XXXII Off-Season Editio 

Post#123 » by dariusl7 » Thu Jul 5, 2012 6:04 pm

woosah wrote:Here's one of them from May:
http://articles.orlandosentinel.com/2012-05-09/sports/os-orlando-magic-news-0510-20120509_1_jameer-nelson-orlando-magic-charlotte-bobcats:

So few players have the no-trade because so few players stay with teams long term. So i don't know if the magic could have refused to give that, it's not earned by performance, it's becomes an option because of....well loyalty.


Still, team has to agree to it. And agree to that when negotiating with a mid level talent is not good business. Seriously doubt it was agreed to.
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Post#124 » by magic111 » Thu Jul 5, 2012 6:04 pm

Well, we can pry take Hou out of the DH hunt with this trade

Marc Stein‏@ESPNSteinLine

Just going up online and via SportsCenter: Sources tell ESPN that Raptors are on verge of acquiring Rockets guard Kyle Lowry via trade
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Post#125 » by woosah » Thu Jul 5, 2012 6:04 pm

jadewbj wrote:
Blue_and_Whte wrote:It's not the kobe and dirk rule. Any player can be eligible for a no trade clause. Not sure why people are singling out the fact that only kobe and dirk have one....

I think the point is that anyone can have one and only 2 players do. Meer is not on the same level as the two who do, so why would he have one?


Because he meets the requirements. It's not based on performance.
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Post#126 » by Def Swami » Thu Jul 5, 2012 6:05 pm

Marc Stein ‏@ESPNSteinLine
Just going up online and via SportsCenter: Sources tell ESPN that Raptors are on verge of acquiring Rockets guard Kyle Lowry via trade
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Post#127 » by magic111 » Thu Jul 5, 2012 6:05 pm

Adrian Wojnarowski‏@WojYahooNBA

Houston has reached agreement to send Kyle Lowry to the Raptors for a package that includes a future lottery pick, source tells Y!

If this lottery pick is a high one, then Hou could be back in the DH race
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Post#128 » by MagicTownBaller » Thu Jul 5, 2012 6:06 pm

Adrian Wojnarowski @WojYahooNBA
Houston has reached agreement to send Kyle Lowry to the Raptors for a package that includes a future lottery pick, source tells Y!


Ummmm
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Post#129 » by SOUL » Thu Jul 5, 2012 6:06 pm

aw I wanted Lowry too though
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Post#130 » by blue and white » Thu Jul 5, 2012 6:07 pm

Marc Stein ‏@ESPNSteinLine
Just going up online and via SportsCenter: Sources tell ESPN that Raptors are on verge of acquiring Rockets guard Kyle Lowry via trade


interesting considering they just lost dragic but how do you think this will effect us trading with them? do you think they still think they have a shot to trade with us
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Post#131 » by Idunkonyou2 » Thu Jul 5, 2012 6:08 pm

I don't think Rob is going to use our MLE or VE. He wants to save cap for 2013. I think that writing has been on the wall.
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Post#132 » by MagicTownBaller » Thu Jul 5, 2012 6:08 pm

blue and white wrote:
Marc Stein ‏@ESPNSteinLine
Just going up online and via SportsCenter: Sources tell ESPN that Raptors are on verge of acquiring Rockets guard Kyle Lowry via trade


interesting considering they just lost dragic but how do you think this will effect us trading with them? do you think they still think they have a shot to trade with us

Maybe they think that the Knicks won't match Lin.
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Post#133 » by woosah » Thu Jul 5, 2012 6:08 pm

magic111 wrote:Adrian Wojnarowski‏@WojYahooNBA

Houston has reached agreement to send Kyle Lowry to the Raptors for a package that includes a future lottery pick, source tells Y!

If this lottery pick is a high one, then Hou could be back in the DH race


hmm. maybe.
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Post#134 » by thelead » Thu Jul 5, 2012 6:08 pm

MagicTownBaller wrote:
Adrian Wojnarowski @WojYahooNBA
Houston has reached agreement to send Kyle Lowry to the Raptors for a package that includes a future lottery pick, source tells Y!


Ummmm


Hahaha. Is it not sad that that the raptors know they'll be a lottery team? :lol:
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Post#135 » by MagicTownBaller » Thu Jul 5, 2012 6:09 pm

Idunkonyou2 wrote:I don't think Rob is going to use our MLE or VE. He wants to save cap for 2013. I think that writing has been on the wall.

Then why would we sign Nelson to a three year deal? We should have either let him go or offered a nice contract for one year.
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Post#136 » by mattyBoi » Thu Jul 5, 2012 6:09 pm

MagicTownBaller wrote:
Idunkonyou2 wrote:I don't think Rob is going to use our MLE or VE. He wants to save cap for 2013. I think that writing has been on the wall.

Then why would we sign Nelson to a three year deal? We should have either let him go or offered a nice contract for one year.


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Post#137 » by magic111 » Thu Jul 5, 2012 6:09 pm

Idunkonyou2 wrote:I don't think Rob is going to use our MLE or VE. He wants to save cap for 2013. I think that writing has been on the wall.


Well, he just gave Jameer 6 million a yr, so who knows what he is up to
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Post#138 » by MagicTownBaller » Thu Jul 5, 2012 6:10 pm

thelead wrote:
MagicTownBaller wrote:
Adrian Wojnarowski @WojYahooNBA
Houston has reached agreement to send Kyle Lowry to the Raptors for a package that includes a future lottery pick, source tells Y!


Ummmm


Hahaha. Is it not sad that that the raptors know they'll be a lottery team? :lol:

Yeah, if it's a future pick, how do they know it'll be a lottery pick?
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Post#139 » by ZeusIsLoose » Thu Jul 5, 2012 6:10 pm

FCK, we are gonna be left with this shtty BRK Nets deal. No one else wants Howard........I just hope the Nets dont have the money for it. Hes gonna have to resign with us, right?
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Post#140 » by NEM » Thu Jul 5, 2012 6:11 pm

lol so dragic goes to phoenix, and lowry goes to toronto... so who is playing point for houston??? if knicks match lin, i could see them going after aaron brooks, which would be ironic

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