Lakers no longer require extension from Dwight Howard

rockynpolo · Post #121 » by **rockynpolo** » Fri Jul 6, 2012 9:18 pm

andremcosta wrote:They will a have a hell of a pressure to win. Not close to Lebron.

Nash-Kobe-Artest-Gasol-Howard, after all this drama.

And with everyone searching for a job in the next Jurassic Park movie, they have to win in 2013.

You think guys like kobe and nash gets bothered by pressure? They love that stuff. Its Dwight's emotional instability and Coach Brown that gets frazzled by pressure.

spearsy23 · Post #122 » by **spearsy23** » Fri Jul 6, 2012 9:18 pm

Kupchak9 wrote:
Thats cool and all but both teams ended up with the same result.

No they didn't. OKC ended up with a W and LA ended up with an L.

Kupchak9 · Post #123 » by **Kupchak9** » Fri Jul 6, 2012 9:20 pm

spearsy23 wrote:
Kupchak9 wrote:
Thats cool and all but both teams ended up with the same result.

No they didn't. OKC ended up with a W and LA ended up with an L.

No chip :[. all that matters.

Dunham32 · Post #124 » by **Dunham32** » Fri Jul 6, 2012 9:32 pm

Has anyone actually confirmed this yet? i havent seen it anywhere else so it seems like a mute point right now

druggas · Post #125 » by **druggas** » Fri Jul 6, 2012 9:32 pm

jaypo wrote:
druggas wrote:
Shaheen wrote:

Its not that uncommon. Kobe did the exact same thing and thats why Shaq was traded.

That's not true and you know it.

Shaq's mouth got him traded.

Actually, Kobe saying that if Shaq were there, he would sign with another team as a FA got Shaq traded.

Kobe straight up said that if Phil and Shaq were on the Lakers in 05, he wouldn't be because he was "tired of being a sidekick". From his own mouth. The Lakers, COINCIDENTLY decided not to resign Phil. Shaq found out on Sportcenter that Phil was let go, and he then asked to be traded because he saw the writing on the wall.

So did Kobe approach management and say "Trade Shaq"? No. But was Kobe responsible for Shaq being shipped out? Abso friggin' lutely.

This is to refute your post.

<<In response to the Times' story, Bryant, interviewed by Smith for a Philadelphia Inquirer column, said Buss "called a meeting with me after he spoke with Jim Gray [of ESPN] to talk with him about Shaq's future in the middle of the 2004 season.

"He met with me at the Four Seasons Hotel here [in Newport Beach, Calif.] across from Fashion Island, which is now the Island Hotel," Bryant told Smith. "I went up to his penthouse suite. [Buss] looks me dead in the face and says: 'Kobe, I am not going to re-sign Shaq. I am not about to pay him $30 million a year or $80 million over three years. No way in hell. I feel like he's getting older. His body is breaking down, and I don't want to pay that money to him when I can get value for him right now rather than wait.

"This is my decision. It's independent of you. My mind is made up. It doesn't matter to me what you do in free agency because I do not want to pay [Shaq], period.'"

"Dr. Buss said that," Bryant told Smith. "And I haven't said anything for years because I've always felt like folks were just looking to create controversy. Now I know. I realize what extent [the Lakers] will go to, to cover themselves."

Reached afterward, O'Neal told Smith that he believed his former teammate to be beyond reproach.

"I believe Kobe 100 percent," O'Neal said when reached in Los Angeles. "Absolutely. There's no doubt in my mind Kobe is telling the truth. I believe him a thousand percent.

"I would have respected Dr. Buss more as a man if he would have told me that himself, because I know he said it. But he didn't [tell me]. He never said a damn word to me."

Ronito · Post #126 » by **Ronito** » Fri Jul 6, 2012 9:34 pm

Almost found the third team.

https://twitter.com/JRudolphSports/stat ... 6174601217

World Peace · Post #127 » by **World Peace** » Fri Jul 6, 2012 9:36 pm

The Brooklyn Nets and Orlando Magic continue to discuss a Dwight Howard trade. They're looking for a third team

Source: Alex Kennedy

Mamba Venom · Post #128 » by **Mamba Venom** » Fri Jul 6, 2012 9:36 pm

GoldenKnight wrote:

Mitch Kup-check
Learn from the master Jerry West (check)
Trade Shaq for calling out the owner(check) that was a gut check
Get Gasol for nothing (check)
Get Ariza for nothing (check)
Win championship (check)
Don't let Ariza punk us for mo $ and get Artest when Ariza won't make up his mind (check)
Win championship (check)
Trade Luke Walton for Sessions (check)
Trade Odom before "poor me" impLOsion (check)
Don't let Sessions punk us for mo $ and get Nash when Sessions won't make up his mind (check)
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ShowTimeERA · Post #129 » by **ShowTimeERA** » Fri Jul 6, 2012 9:38 pm

jaypo wrote:
Actually, Kobe saying that if Shaq were there, he would sign with another team as a FA got Shaq traded.

Kobe straight up said that if Phil and Shaq were on the Lakers in 05, he wouldn't be because he was "tired of being a sidekick". From his own mouth. The Lakers, COINCIDENTLY decided not to resign Phil. Shaq found out on Sportcenter that Phil was let go, and he then asked to be traded because he saw the writing on the wall.

So did Kobe approach management and say "Trade Shaq"? No. But was Kobe responsible for Shaq being shipped out? Abso friggin' lutely.

Jaypo, make this clear to me. Your saying Kobe's unwillingness to be a "sidekick" is what ultimately got Shaq ran out of town...Correct? But on the other hand you and many others have "bashed" and "discredit" Kobe's first three rings because of just that being a "sidekick"

So from what I gather is Kobe cannot win in either situation. He was selfish for getting Shaq traded but then if he would had been a model citizen and kept quiet and continued to win rings, they wouldn't have counted because he rode Shaq's coattail...Its a lose-lose situation...

Ronito · Post #130 » by **Ronito** » Fri Jul 6, 2012 9:39 pm

World Peace wrote:
The Brooklyn Nets and Orlando Magic continue to discuss a Dwight Howard trade. They're looking for a third team

Source: Alex Kennedy

Nothing new.

druggas · Post #131 » by **druggas** » Fri Jul 6, 2012 9:39 pm

Mamba Venom wrote:
GoldenKnight wrote:

Mitch Kup-check
Learn from the master Jerry West (check)
Trade Shaq for calling out the owner(check) that was a gut check
Get Gasol for nothing (check)
Get Ariza for nothing (check)
Win championship (check)
Don't let Ariza punk us for mo $ and get Artest when Ariza won't make up his mind (check)
Win championship (check)
Trade Luke Walton for Sessions (check)
Trade Odom before "poor me" impLOsion (check)
Don't let Sessions punk us for mo $ and get Nash when Sessions won't make up his mind (check)
---

This is exactly correct and I'm NOT a Cupcake fan.

shortodom · Post #132 » by **shortodom** » Fri Jul 6, 2012 9:39 pm

Ronito wrote:Almost found the third team.

https://twitter.com/JRudolphSports/stat ... 6174601217

Could be just trying to scare the Lakers into taking the bad contract they don't want.

ShowTimeERA · Post #133 » by **ShowTimeERA** » Fri Jul 6, 2012 9:41 pm

shortodom wrote:
Ronito wrote:Almost found the third team.

https://twitter.com/JRudolphSports/stat ... 6174601217

Could be just trying to scare the Lakers into taking the bad contract they don't want.

For LA's sake, its in the best interest for reports to surface favoring a BK-ORL trade.

J-Mezzy · Post #134 » by **J-Mezzy** » Fri Jul 6, 2012 9:41 pm

I hope we trade him to LA and not satisfy him and trade him to BK

Ronito · Post #135 » by **Ronito** » Fri Jul 6, 2012 9:41 pm

shortodom wrote:
Ronito wrote:Almost found the third team.

https://twitter.com/JRudolphSports/stat ... 6174601217

Could be just trying to scare the Lakers into taking the bad contract they don't want.

Could be. Could also be the Nets getting closer to a deal.

chubby_1_kenobi · Post #136 » by **chubby_1_kenobi** » Fri Jul 6, 2012 9:51 pm

Nets looking for a third team to do what exactly?

Give up multiple first round draft picks for Marshon Brooks and Humphries?

inquisitive · Post #137 » by **inquisitive** » Fri Jul 6, 2012 9:52 pm

T-mac_1_175 wrote:
Zona Zoo wrote:
SheedsWeed wrote:I would be surprised if the Magic are interested in the Net's offer. They would be better off letting Dwight walk.

Exactly, any picks of their own the Net's have to offer are worthless if they have Dwight, any players they can get back from the nets are crap (won't get you playoffs, won't help you tank), the Nets are just.... meh here without a 3rd team.

And this is coming from somebody that wants to see Dwight on the Nets, purely for the crosstown rivalry and it's implications in the atlantic division and potentially a credible rival with the Heat

So has Daryl Morey done enough to please the magic with the Lowry trade?
Seems like he will offer the pick from the Raptors, 1st rounder from Dallas, I expect another future first? Kev Martins expiring deal, and a selection of young players aquired Lamb, White, Jones, Montijunas, Patterson?? I doubt it happens but as far as youth and picks are concerned it's an ok deal and Magic get rid of Hedos fat deal without taking on significant capspace.

Not sure if the Rockets will take on Hedo, but more likely JRich or Duhon instead. I think Montie is off the table, but not sure what Morey thinks..they're still looking to see what they can get for Scola, so i doubt they have proposed anything to the Magic yet

Ronito · Post #138 » by **Ronito** » Fri Jul 6, 2012 9:54 pm

chubby_1_kenobi wrote:Nets looking for a third team to do what exactly?

Give up multiple first round draft picks for Marshon Brooks and Humphries?

Take on Dan Fegan's client, Kris Humphries.

OOO · Post #139 » by **OOO** » Fri Jul 6, 2012 9:56 pm

They're trying to scare the Lakers into taking a bad contract.

ShowTimeERA · Post #140 » by **ShowTimeERA** » Fri Jul 6, 2012 9:57 pm

Ronito wrote:
chubby_1_kenobi wrote:Nets looking for a third team to do what exactly?

Give up multiple first round draft picks for Marshon Brooks and Humphries?

Take on Dan Fegan's client, Kris Humphries.

Explain to me how exactly BK is absorbing 30M in salary with Dwight and Hedo?