Lakers no longer require extension from Dwight Howard

JF5 · Post #141 » by **JF5** » Fri Jul 6, 2012 9:57 pm

Dwight Howard isn't signing an long term contract with the Lakers if he joins....

Ming Kong! · Post #142 » by **Ming Kong!** » Fri Jul 6, 2012 10:02 pm

JF5 wrote:Dwight Howard isn't signing an long term contract with the Lakers if he joins....

Meh, Howard's word is to be taken with a grain of salt. He signed a player option to ask for a trade before the summer even started.

Post #143 » by **Kilroy** » Fri Jul 6, 2012 10:03 pm

Ronito wrote:
chubby_1_kenobi wrote:Nets looking for a third team to do what exactly?

Give up multiple first round draft picks for Marshon Brooks and Humphries?

Take on Dan Fegan's client, Kris Humphries.

So you have to figure that team would need to be in the West, because no East team is going to help Brook get Howard and no West team is going to want LA to get him...

So what team in the West would want to send a bunch of picks to Brooklyn for Humphries in a S&T?

Also, Humphries has to agree to a salary, and Orlando has to agree on the return, which you have to figure would need to be pretty high.

So who in the West might value him enough to give a viable amount of return (picks) to Brooklyn to facilitate the trade?

ShowTimeERA · Post #144 » by **ShowTimeERA** » Fri Jul 6, 2012 10:10 pm

Alex Kennedy ‏@AlexKennedyNBA
Dwight Howard to Brooklyn nearly died when the Nets agreed to MLE deal with Mirza Teletović. Now, door is still open: http://tinyurl.com/79gw94h

The reason why the above is important is because the Nets can pass the 74M threshold, in order to take back the supposed bad contracts Orlando wants to get rid of.

But now once again some one explain to me how exactly does BK absorb an excess of 30M dollars in Salary. From my understand is a 3rd and 4th team is needed to take on Hedo and Jason's contract and what team in their right mind will be willing to take on Hedo's 12M contract without compensation in the form of draft picks. And those picks certainly aren't coming from Orlando, so what exactly is the trade offer on the table - Lopez, Marshon, ? for Dwight...

TheXFactor · Post #145 » by **TheXFactor** » Fri Jul 6, 2012 10:13 pm

Lets say NJ finds a 3rd team for Mr Kardashian for a inflated contract, where teams can get him cheaper with an offer sheet.

Does Orlando have to absorb Lopez contract for a max player?

Ronito · Post #146 » by **Ronito** » Fri Jul 6, 2012 10:17 pm

ShowTimeERA wrote:
Ronito wrote:
chubby_1_kenobi wrote:Nets looking for a third team to do what exactly?

Give up multiple first round draft picks for Marshon Brooks and Humphries?

Take on Dan Fegan's client, Kris Humphries.

Explain to me how exactly BK is absorbing 30M in salary with Dwight and Hedo?

You mean how would one be legal? It would be possible for the Nets to sign-and-trade Humphries and Lopez, along with most of their other free agents, in separate, parallel deals that would bring back both Howard and Turkoglu. Orlando would want Humphries to go to a third team. The Magic would get Lopez, Brooks, draft picks, and whatever they get from the third team. They would also get multiple players who were primarily thrown in to make the trades legal, but who would be on three-year deals with just one year guaranteed, so they’d be like ending contracts. In doing so, the Magic would be unloading Hedo’s bad contract along with Dwight.

http://www.hoopsworld.com/nba-salary-ca ... -coon-7612

Kilroy wrote:
Ronito wrote:
chubby_1_kenobi wrote:Nets looking for a third team to do what exactly?

Give up multiple first round draft picks for Marshon Brooks and Humphries?

Take on Dan Fegan's client, Kris Humphries.

So you have to figure that team would need to be in the West, because no East team is going to help Brook get Howard and no West team is going to want LA to get him...

So what team in the West would want to send a bunch of picks to Brooklyn for Humphries in a S&T?

Also, Humphries has to agree to a salary, and Orlando has to agree on the return, which you have to figure would need to be pretty high.

So who in the West might value him enough to give a viable amount of return (picks) to Brooklyn to facilitate the trade?

I don't think we are looking for picks from a third team. Not really sure either way, though.

ShowTimeERA · Post #147 » by **ShowTimeERA** » Fri Jul 6, 2012 10:25 pm

Ronito wrote:
Explain to me how exactly BK is absorbing 30M in salary with Dwight and Hedo?

You mean how would one be legal? It would be possible for the Nets to sign-and-trade Humphries and Lopez, along with most of their other free agents, in separate, parallel deals that would bring back both Howard and Turkoglu. Orlando would want Humphries to go to a third team. The Magic would get Lopez, Brooks, draft picks, and whatever they get from the third team. They would also get multiple players who were primarily thrown in to make the trades legal, but who would be on three-year deals with just one year guaranteed, so they’d be like ending contracts. In doing so, the Magic would be unloading Hedo’s bad contract along with Dwight.

http://www.hoopsworld.com/nba-salary-ca ... -coon-7612[/quote]

I understand the technical terms of the trade but what I still don't understand is what compensation would a 3rd team receive from taking on Hump? Also if Orlando is getting a mediocre package of players, they want to get rid of 2 out 3 bad contracts. Its been specified that if Orlando were to receive Allstar Andrew Bynum, then it would only require one bad contract to traded however LA wants to unload Metta and that is the hold up IMO...

The Laker Kid · Post #148 » by **The Laker Kid** » Fri Jul 6, 2012 10:38 pm

Ronito wrote:Almost found the third team.
https://twitter.com/JRudolphSports/stat ... 6174601217

hmmmm It's been eerily quiet on the Lakers' side.
Kupchak likes to sneak up behind teams and pull the prize right before their very eyes.

ShowTimeERA · Post #149 » by **ShowTimeERA** » Fri Jul 6, 2012 10:38 pm

Mike Bresnahan ‏@Mike_Bresnahan
Are the Lakers done trading? Kobe: "I don't think that they're done. The moves they make just seem to come out of nowhere."

chubby_1_kenobi · Post #150 » by **chubby_1_kenobi** » Fri Jul 6, 2012 10:41 pm

ShowTimeERA wrote:Mike Bresnahan ‏@Mike_Bresnahan
Are the Lakers done trading? Kobe: "I don't think that they're done. The moves they make just seem to come out of nowhere."

Gee, thanks Kob for giving other GMs in the league the heads up.

StapleGun24 · Post #151 » by **StapleGun24** » Fri Jul 6, 2012 10:53 pm

If Dwight's traded to LA, i just hope he signs a damn extension already, otherwise it's gonna be a WHOLE 'NOTHER YEAR of nonsensical speculation. i'm sure every set of fans is already tired by now (except perhaps hopeful Nets fans) and wants to move on, and i'm not sure if Dwight can handle yet another year of being called a drama queen causing idiot.

ShowTimeERA · Post #152 » by **ShowTimeERA** » Fri Jul 6, 2012 10:54 pm

StapleGun24 wrote:If Dwight's traded to LA, i just hope he signs a damn extension already, otherwise it's gonna be a WHOLE 'NOTHER YEAR of nonsensical speculation. i'm sure every set of fans is already tired by now (except perhaps hopeful Nets fans) and wants to move on, and i'm not sure if Dwight can handle yet another year of being called a drama queen causing idiot.

There's no way Dwight will sign an extension, similar to why Chris Paul wont. By opting out and signing a new contract both are eligible for a similar contract to what Deron received...

Dwight not extending does not mean he won't resign with the team who trades for him...Its benefical to Dwight not to sign an extension for financial reasons...Just want to make that clear..

FinallyImHere · Post #153 » by **FinallyImHere** » Fri Jul 6, 2012 10:57 pm

Honestly im tired of all the "Dwight" drama.. Dude needs to man up.

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TheXFactor · Post #154 » by **TheXFactor** » Fri Jul 6, 2012 11:00 pm

FinallyImHere wrote:Honestly im tired of all the "Dwight" drama.. Dude needs to man up.

Shaheen · Post #155 » by **Shaheen** » Fri Jul 6, 2012 11:07 pm

Why do Lakers fans feel so entitled to Dwight? "Its inevitable." "The writing is on the wall."

Just because you arguably have a better offer doesn't mean ****. Dwight does NOT want to play for the Lakers. And thats a major obstacle.

Last year the Nets had a much better offer than the Knicks for Carmelo but who got him? The Knicks. Because Carmelo never wanted to play for the Nets. And Dwight does NOT want to play for the Lakers.

I'm not saying you're not getting him. Just stop saying its automatic. It only make you guys look worse and you will get embarrassed if you're wrong.

inquisitive · Post #156 » by **inquisitive** » Fri Jul 6, 2012 11:08 pm

StapleGun24 wrote:If Dwight's traded to LA, i just hope he signs a damn extension already, otherwise it's gonna be a WHOLE 'NOTHER YEAR of nonsensical speculation. i'm sure every set of fans is already tired by now (except perhaps hopeful Nets fans) and wants to move on, and i'm not sure if Dwight can handle yet another year of being called a drama queen causing idiot.

thing is, if the lakers are gonna trade for him w/o an extension, you don't think there could be a distraction throughout the season by the media asking him every other day which could disrupt the team's play and affect the season? another circus?

AmerigoCorleone · Post #157 » by **AmerigoCorleone** » Fri Jul 6, 2012 11:10 pm

Shaheen wrote:Why do Lakers fans feel so entitled to Dwight? "Its inevitable." "The writing is on the wall."

Just because you have a better offer doesn't mean ****. Dwight does NOT want to play for the Lakers. And thats a major obstacle.

Last year the Nets had a much better offer than the Knicks for Carmelo but who got him? The Knicks. Because Carmelo never wanted to play for the Nets. And Dwight does NOT want to play for the Lakers.

I'm not saying you're not getting him. Just stop saying its automatic. It only make you guys look worse and you will get embarrassed if you're wrong.

Shaheen where Drake is the future of Rap happens.

StapleGun24 · Post #158 » by **StapleGun24** » Fri Jul 6, 2012 11:31 pm

inquisitive wrote:
StapleGun24 wrote:If Dwight's traded to LA, i just hope he signs a damn extension already, otherwise it's gonna be a WHOLE 'NOTHER YEAR of nonsensical speculation. i'm sure every set of fans is already tired by now (except perhaps hopeful Nets fans) and wants to move on, and i'm not sure if Dwight can handle yet another year of being called a drama queen causing idiot.

thing is, if the lakers are gonna trade for him w/o an extension, you don't think there could be a distraction throughout the season by the media asking him every other day which could disrupt the team's play and affect the season? another circus?

exactly right, it will be a circus. especially when the media follows your ass everyday in LA. he'll get asked about his future atleast a couple times a week.

obviously, money wise, what's best for him is not to sign an extension and get a better deal later on, but you never know what dwight will do, it must be a bummer to be a waiter where he orders food... the brotha probably changes his mind 5 times before choosing a salad or whatever.

another thing is, if he's traded to LA, i wonder what reception he'll get with fans midway through the season. will they kiss his ass and beg in hopes he signs a new deal, or will they boo him when he inevitably decides to flip flop with the press again.

sabi · Post #159 » by **sabi** » Fri Jul 6, 2012 11:36 pm

Lol lakers are assembling a team to win it all next season
dwight
dirk
who gives a crap
kobe
nash

microfib4thewin · Post #160 » by **microfib4thewin** » Sat Jul 7, 2012 4:48 am

Shaheen wrote:Why do Lakers fans feel so entitled to Dwight? "Its inevitable." "The writing is on the wall."

Just because you arguably have a better offer doesn't mean ****. Dwight does NOT want to play for the Lakers. And thats a major obstacle.

It does actually, thanks to:

1. Dwight opting in.
2. Nets not having capspace.

So the Nets have nothing to threaten the Magic with, they need to entice the Magic to trade Dwight but is coming up short on assets thanks to losing the pick to Portland. If the Nets can't find a way to up their offer either from them or a 3rd team they're not getting Dwight.

If the Lakers want Howard for a year, they can already do that. The Magic already has a team structured for a star center so Bynum wouldn't have a problem integrating there, and they're not going to get anything better than Bynum. Howard can leave, but where is he going to go? Dallas is losing their players left and right and Atlanta fan support has always been questionable. There isn't a slamdunk destination for Dwight if he enters the market.

If Dwight is open to losing that fifth year, then it's fair game. If he really wants that fifth year, then he can only re-sign with the Lakers if he goes there.