OffSeason Free Agent Thread...Let's build a DYNASTY! 2.0

[DrVanNostrand]

Don't remember about the regular season but I do remember when the Celtics were defeated 2010-2011, Ray was the one that seemed to be giving some word of advice to him. Not sure of anything else...

Chalmers got in Ray's face a few times during the playoffs but it's not a big deal. Haslem and JO hated each others guts. JO called him a fake tough guy like 6 years ago.

Shaq didn't like Alonzo either for so long until he realized time to grow up and he realized how much he needed Alonzo.

If Ray comes here, he will be poking fun at Chalmers with Wade and Lebron. They're all professionals and they will get along.

...and he'll be able to berate/yell at Chalmers all he wants WITHOUT EVER GETTING A TECH.

[diablerouge]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Faptastrophe
Marc J. Spears ‏@SpearsNBAYahoo
NYK and MIA leaders in comp to land HOU C Marcus Camby with either $3m mini mid or Sign-N-Trade, source tells Y! SA,DAL, HOU also interested.

how would we be able to swing a sign and trade?

[Hoops3355]

In the money side, it is worth noting that since Florida has no state taxes, the difference in the offers with Boston's 5.3% state tax is about $1.9m total and cost of living, while not low in Miami is cheaper overall in south Florida than in the Boston area.

1.9m a year?

[narmerguy]

There have been tweets saying he is only interested in the mini-mle. Even if it wasn't reported, it's not stupid to assume one of the best rebounding centers in the league would want to get paid.

I'm not saying he doesn't want to get paid.

My point is, I'm curious if mini-mle is even enough. Because like I was saying, everyone said "Use the MLE on Dalembert!" last season, and then we find out later it wouldn't have been nearly enough.

Oh, okay. That's true, but I don't think Dally ever said he wanted the MLE. He always hinted towards going to the highest bidder. Camby said he wants to win a championship, but he would want the mini-mle too

That's not what he said. What he said was that he would only consider playing in Miami for the mini but that he would prefer to stay in Houston.

Regardless, everyone can stop their whining now since we have a meeting with both Shard and Camby and, surprise surprise, have been in contact with Camby since last week. I don't know why that should be surprising--that Riley has a brain--but somehow, people seem so willing to forget how this man works.

[GameTime_3]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Faptastrophe
Marc J. Spears ‏@SpearsNBAYahoo
NYK and MIA leaders in comp to land HOU C Marcus Camby with either $3m mini mid or Sign-N-Trade, source tells Y! SA,DAL, HOU also interested.

how would we be able to swing a sign and trade?

Trade Joel Anthony + Philly Pick for Camby.

Sign Ray Allen.

Minimum for Rashard Lewis.

Off-Season = Success.

[El Alonzo scowl]

Ooh I forgot we had Philly's first. It'll probably be in the mid-to-late teens too. Would like to get rid of Joel's nagging contract too. If Miller had retired I'd amnesty Joel eventually.

[shanedude]

If the pick is in the mid to late teens wouldn't we want to keep it? I mean it's just old ass Camby. I am fine with shipping out Joel though

[G.cracker]

In the money side, it is worth noting that since Florida has no state taxes, the difference in the offers with Boston's 5.3% state tax is about $1.9m total and cost of living, while not low in Miami is cheaper overall in south Florida than in the Boston area.

1.9m a year?

No. $1.9m total. Taxes on $12m roughly $700k, so $11.3 apples to apples pre-fed taxes. Our contract is $9.5m, so the Total difference in Boston's offer to ours is a bit over $1.8m. I rounded up.

[FlashFlare]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Faptastrophe
Marc J. Spears ‏@SpearsNBAYahoo
NYK and MIA leaders in comp to land HOU C Marcus Camby with either $3m mini mid or Sign-N-Trade, source tells Y! SA,DAL, HOU also interested.

how would we be able to swing a sign and trade?

Trade Joel Anthony + Philly Pick for Camby.

Sign Ray Allen.

Minimum for Rashard Lewis.

Off-Season = Success.

Not bad.

[hra8700]

In the money side, it is worth noting that since Florida has no state taxes, the difference in the offers with Boston's 5.3% state tax is about $1.9m total and cost of living, while not low in Miami is cheaper overall in south Florida than in the Boston area.

1.9m a year?

No. $1.9m total. Taxes on $12m roughly $700k, so $11.3 apples to apples pre-fed taxes. Our contract is $9.5m, so the Total difference in Boston's offer to ours is a bit over $1.8m. I rounded up.

Tax is actually half of that because only home games get that tax break.

[GameTime_3]

I want Camby the same way I wanted Battier. The dude would fit in perfectly. Tall, Rebounder, good defender, good hands, good role player, doesn't demand the ball and high BBIQ. You put him next to Bosh and you will see Bosh flourish!

Camby
Bosh
Bron
Wade
Chalmers

Ray Allen(2), Battier(2/3), UD(4/5), Rashard(3/4) and JJ, Cole, Dex as the next guys up.

This team would have so much shooting that it would be awesome.

[G.cracker]

Tax is actually half of that because only home games get that tax break.[/quote]

I always wondered about that. So, if a lebron has to pay taxes for every game in tax bearing states, it would reason that Kobe would not pay taxes on games played here or other state income tax free states. Is that correct?

[wadeskywalker]

I want Camby the same way I wanted Battier. The dude would fit in perfectly. Tall, Rebounder, good defender, good hands, good role player, doesn't demand the ball and high BBIQ. You put him next to Bosh and you will see Bosh flourish!

Camby
Bosh
Bron
Wade
Chalmers

Ray Allen(2), Battier(2/3), UD(4/5), Rashard(3/4) and JJ, Cole, Dex as the next guys up.

This team would have so much shooting that it would be awesome.

and MIller too...

[ifrosty13]

Players don't get paid per game; My understanding is they get payed bi-weekly. So I doubt they have to pay taxes for away games.

[FlashFlare]

Tax is actually half of that because only home games get that tax break.

Umm... it doesn't matter about home games or not, they are getting their income in the state of Florida. Correct me if I'm wrong.

[G.cracker]

I'd like the keep the Philly pick if we can. Think this package would work?

Joel to Toronto
Pittman to Houston
Calderon to Houston
Camby s&t to Miami.

Then we get a leftover at the end of free agency to never play.

[Butterss]

I'd like the keep the Philly pick if we can. Think this package would work?

Joel to Toronto
Pittman to Houston
Calderon to Houston
Camby s&t to Miami.

Then we get a leftover at the end of free agency to never play.

no

[GameTime_3]

I'd like the keep the Philly pick if we can. Think this package would work?

Joel to Toronto
Pittman to Houston
Calderon to Houston
Camby s&t to Miami.

Then we get a leftover at the end of free agency to never play.

You had me at Joel to (Fill in team)!

[El Alonzo scowl]

I'd like the keep the Philly pick if we can. Think this package would work?

Joel to Toronto
Pittman to Houston
Calderon to Houston
Camby s&t to Miami.

Then we get a leftover at the end of free agency to never play.

I mean, Darryl Morey and Bryan Colangelo have easily been the 2 worst GMs in free agency so anything is a possibility but I wouldn't count on it.

[Mars]

Per Larry Coon (on taxes)...

Are teams really competing on a level playing field? Since the tax rate is different in the different states and Canada, don't the teams in a more "tax friendly" state have an advantage over the other teams?

Yes they do. For example, an offer from Orlando will provide a higher net income than the same offer from Los Angeles, because the player will play at least half his games in a state with no state income tax. But the advantage is not quite as large as you might expect, because most jurisdictions with NBA teams require visiting athletes to pay state income taxes (often called a "jock tax") for each "duty day" they spend there.

There is not a standard definition for a duty day, but it is generally considered to be any day the player spends in a particular jurisdiction, including for preseason, regular season and postseason games. For example, if there are 170 duty days in a season and a player plays five of those duty days in a state with a jock tax, then the player will pay state income taxes in that state based on 5/170 of his income.

Currently:

* Florida (Heat and Magic), Tennessee (Grizzlies) and Texas (Mavericks, Rockets and Spurs) have no state income tax.

* Florida (Heat and Magic), Ontario (Raptors), Tennessee (Grizzlies), Texas (Mavericks, Rockets and Spurs) and Washington D.C. (Wizards) do not make visiting athletes pay a jock tax.

* Illinois (Bulls) does not make visiting athletes pay a jock tax if they come from jurisdictions without a jock tax. However, Illinois does not credit its residents for jock taxes paid out of state, so Bulls players can be double-taxed for some road games.