Lakers no longer require extension from Dwight Howard

MannyRam99 · Post #321 » by **MannyRam99** » Sat Jul 7, 2012 7:34 pm

I understand it was a Nets fan who said it, but you seriously have to have low standards if you believe last years Laker squad was a contender.

that team was the team who won in 2010, but advanced in age, coupled with internal issues and the lost of its glue guy in Odom... and coached by Mike Brown.

vincecarter4pres · Post #322 » by **vincecarter4pres** » Sat Jul 7, 2012 7:34 pm

ShowTimeERA wrote:
vincecarter4pres wrote:Trade would be done already if they didn't need an extension, what's not to understand here?

Don't believe this BS you hear.

If the trade goes down, believe me he either signs an extension or has given trustworthy assurance he will re-up in the offseason for the full 5.

They are not trading for him while he is telling them, I will not resign period.

The issue is we have two different franchises looking to trade for Howard. One will not be taken as a fool in the sense of absorbing horrible contracts while the other is...That's the hold up.

Again, I don't doubt Howard becomes a Laker, but they are not trading for him against his will and if they do their arrogance and entitlement has clouded their vision as an organization.

Maybe they can convince him to stay, but just as there are a ton of people and players that love the Lakers, they are similarly and simultaneously one of the most hated franchises, just on a smaller scale in numbers, but with identical fervor.

This could end extremely ugly and if Bynum is what he's made out to be(which he isn't anyway, he's going to be exposed like a Superbowl wardrobe malfunction if he winds up in Orlando) there's no reason to take this gamble. If Bynum is that good, you keep him unless Howard softens his stance.

vincecarter4pres · Post #323 » by **vincecarter4pres** » Sat Jul 7, 2012 7:36 pm

MannyRam99 wrote:I understand it was a Nets fan who said it, but you seriously have to have low standards if you believe last years Laker squad was a contender.

that team was the team who won in 2010, but advanced in age, coupled with internal issues and the lost of its glue guy in Odom... and coached by Mike Brown.

They had a top 8 player and 2 top 20 players, that is a contender, it just wasn't a favorite.

I think in the same breath you're throwing the shot cause I'm a Nets fan you're confusing contender and favorite because of your spoiled sense of entitlement.

VCRJKidd15 · Post #324 » by **VCRJKidd15** » Sat Jul 7, 2012 7:38 pm

MannyRam99 wrote:I understand it was a Nets fan who said it, but you seriously have to have low standards if you believe last years Laker squad was a contender.

that team was the team who won in 2010, but advanced in age, coupled with internal issues and the lost of its glue guy in Odom... and coached by Mike Brown.

Just because they didn't make it too the finals doesn't make them not a contender. Nobody said they were better than past Lakers teams.

ShowTimeERA · Post #325 » by **ShowTimeERA** » Sat Jul 7, 2012 7:39 pm

vincecarter4pres wrote:
ShowTimeERA wrote:
vincecarter4pres wrote:Trade would be done already if they didn't need an extension, what's not to understand here?

Don't believe this BS you hear.

If the trade goes down, believe me he either signs an extension or has given trustworthy assurance he will re-up in the offseason for the full 5.

They are not trading for him while he is telling them, I will not resign period.

The issue is we have two different franchises looking to trade for Howard. One will not be taken as a fool in the sense of absorbing horrible contracts while the other is...That's the hold up.

Again, I don't doubt Howard becomes a Laker, but they are not trading for him against his will and if they do their arrogance and entitlement has clouded their vision as an organization.

Maybe they can convince him to stay, but just as there are a ton of people and players that love the Lakers, they are similarly and simultaneously one of the most hated franchises, just on a smaller scale in numbers, but with identical fervor.

This could end extremely ugly and if Bynum is what he's made out to be(which he isn't anyway, he's going to be exposed like a Superbowl wardrobe malfunction if he winds up in Orlando) there's no reason to take this gamble. If Bynum is that good, you keep him unless Howard softens his stance.

Comments like these are what make you as credible as Ron's brother and Rudolph...Speaking with an angered agenda isn't healthy...

Jajwanda · Post #326 » by **Jajwanda** » Sat Jul 7, 2012 7:40 pm

vincecarter4pres wrote:
ShowTimeERA wrote:
vincecarter4pres wrote:Trade would be done already if they didn't need an extension, what's not to understand here?

Don't believe this BS you hear.

If the trade goes down, believe me he either signs an extension or has given trustworthy assurance he will re-up in the offseason for the full 5.

They are not trading for him while he is telling them, I will not resign period.

The issue is we have two different franchises looking to trade for Howard. One will not be taken as a fool in the sense of absorbing horrible contracts while the other is...That's the hold up.

Again, I don't doubt Howard becomes a Laker, but they are not trading for him against his will and if they do their arrogance and entitlement has clouded their vision as an organization.

Maybe they can convince him to stay, but just as there are a ton of people and players that love the Lakers, they are similarly and simultaneously one of the most hated franchises, just on a smaller scale in numbers, but with identical fervor.

This could end extremely ugly and if Bynum is what he's made out to be(which he isn't anyway, he's going to be exposed like a Superbowl wardrobe malfunction if he winds up in Orlando) there's no reason to take this gamble. If Bynum is that good, you keep him unless Howard softens his stance.

What's being totally ignored in all of this is that perhaps L.A. doesn't want to pay Bynum long-term?

If Howard wants to walk he loses tremendous amounts in endorsements.

AmerigoCorleone · Post #327 » by **AmerigoCorleone** » Sat Jul 7, 2012 7:42 pm

Highly doubt the Lakers care if Howard says he wants to go there or not.

World Peace · Post #328 » by **World Peace** » Sat Jul 7, 2012 7:42 pm

If my queen said" baby ur horrible in bed. Can I go out"? I would say " no problem babe, see ya later. What do u want for dinner?"

At least she was honest;) gotta respect that. That was an example. I'm the man when it comes to the come down..

Source: Metta World Peace

MannyRam99 · Post #329 » by **MannyRam99** » Sat Jul 7, 2012 7:43 pm

VCRJKidd15 wrote:
MannyRam99 wrote:I understand it was a Nets fan who said it, but you seriously have to have low standards if you believe last years Laker squad was a contender.

that team was the team who won in 2010, but advanced in age, coupled with internal issues and the lost of its glue guy in Odom... and coached by Mike Brown.
Just because they didn't make it too the finals doesn't make them not a contender. Nobody said they were better than past Lakers teams.

No bench, no shooters, Kobe was allowed to play helter skelter with no consequence (which wouldn't be allowed under Phil).

I understood from day 1 that they were not contenders, despite the top heavy talent in Kobe, Bynum and Gasol.

microfib4thewin · Post #330 » by **microfib4thewin** » Sat Jul 7, 2012 7:46 pm

As said before, the reason why it's less threatening for Howard to walk out on the Lakers is because the two teams that does have capspace(Mavs, Hawks) aren't the most desirable destination for a FA. It's questionable if Cuban can build a winning team again and the Hawks don't have great fan support nor have great management. There isn't a plethora of places for any FA to choose from next summer, and since a S&T does not give you the extra year anymore the chance of Howard leaving becomes smaller.

That said, the Lakers is more likely to play it safe and ensure an extension before they bring Howard over, though it is not completely improbable for them to bring in an unextended Howard.

Jajwanda · Post #331 » by **Jajwanda** » Sat Jul 7, 2012 7:49 pm

World Peace wrote:
If my queen said" baby ur horrible in bed. Can I go out"? I would say " no problem babe, see ya later. What do u want for dinner?"

At least she was honest;) gotta respect that. That was an example. I'm the man when it comes to the come down..

Source: Metta World Peace

It sounds like he's in the deal and they want Devin Ebanks to take that job at SF.

vincecarter4pres · Post #332 » by **vincecarter4pres** » Sat Jul 7, 2012 8:18 pm

Jajwanda wrote:
World Peace wrote:
If my queen said" baby ur horrible in bed. Can I go out"? I would say " no problem babe, see ya later. What do u want for dinner?"

At least she was honest;) gotta respect that. That was an example. I'm the man when it comes to the come down..

Source: Metta World Peace

It sounds like he's in the deal and they want Devin Ebanks to take that job at SF.

I see you speak Ghostface.

Jajwanda · Post #333 » by **Jajwanda** » Sat Jul 7, 2012 8:20 pm

I get Metta.

dtown8 · Post #334 » by **dtown8** » Sat Jul 7, 2012 8:52 pm

this is great news for Atlanta fans. they will be able to keep Horford and sign Dwight. Hawks are only worried about Brooklyn, nobody in Atlanta is worry about the Lakers resigning Dwight.

Kobe is like the Rondo of the west coast, just a guy you don't want to hang out in the locker room :lol:

World Peace · Post #335 » by **World Peace** » Sat Jul 7, 2012 8:54 pm

dtown8 wrote:this is great news for Atlanta fans. they will be able to keep Horford and sign Dwight. Hawks are only worried about Brooklyn, nobody in Atlanta is worry about the Lakers resigning Dwight.

Kobe is like the Rondo of the west coast, just a guy you don't want to hang out in the locker room

Dwight is definitely resigning in L.A. He ain't leaving a team with Kobe Bryant, Steve Nash, and Pau Gasol on it.

Jajwanda · Post #336 » by **Jajwanda** » Sat Jul 7, 2012 8:55 pm

I'm not 100% sure they keep Pau. Did they officially tell him we're keeping you or was it just Bresnahan that said so?

Kupchak9 · Post #337 » by **Kupchak9** » Sat Jul 7, 2012 8:57 pm

I'd still trade Gasol for Smith

ShowTimeERA · Post #338 » by **ShowTimeERA** » Sat Jul 7, 2012 8:58 pm

vincecarter4pres wrote:
Jajwanda wrote:
It sounds like he's in the deal and they want Devin Ebanks to take that job at SF.

I see you speak Ghostface.

Classic case of Pot calling the kettle black...

Jajwanda · Post #339 » by **Jajwanda** » Sat Jul 7, 2012 8:58 pm

Considering Utah doesn't care about cap room until 2014 I'd consider something around Millsap. Now he and Nash on the P and R would be nasty along with Dwight on the inside.

MannyRam99 · Post #340 » by **MannyRam99** » Sat Jul 7, 2012 8:59 pm

dtown8 wrote:Kobe is like the Rondo of the west coast, just a guy you don't want to hang out in the locker room

ask coach K and the Olympic squad what Kobe does for the locker room, then get back to me.