Lee talking to Boston; possible S&T

MaxwellSmart · Post #21 » by **MaxwellSmart** » Sun Jul 8, 2012 9:06 pm

C's could send Picks, Moore+Williams (Non-Guaranteed contracts-could be waived)...Plus maybe Marquis Daniels....should be enough to get it done.

Aaron Brooks · Post #22 » by **Aaron Brooks** » Sun Jul 8, 2012 9:08 pm

Fabolous Melo

zapatasblood · Post #23 » by **zapatasblood** » Sun Jul 8, 2012 9:13 pm

Sure they ask for him but Boston would have said no.

oldphatc · Post #24 » by **oldphatc** » Sun Jul 8, 2012 11:39 pm

thanks x and tex for the feedback . in regard to Bradley , with another surgery scheduled for tues. , the Celts don't expect him back until dec. He's only making 1.6 but would be surprised if he'd be part of the package . well we'll let the powers that be , take care of it . Hope it works out for both teams . J. Johnson and picks would probably be involved . good luck in the coming season . I don't know how you all like Kevin Mchale as a coach , but i remember him as a heck of a player . peace

chrisab123 · Post #25 » by **chrisab123** » Mon Jul 9, 2012 2:35 am

Celtics could probably do a sign and trade of

Dooling and Daniels (plus the cash to cover the contracts since they would have to match with Lee and Camby) plus a pick or JaJuan Johnson (last years 1st rounder)

for

Camby and Lee

Aaron Brooks · Post #26 » by **Aaron Brooks** » Mon Jul 9, 2012 2:39 am

that doesnt do anything for us

chrisab123 · Post #27 » by **chrisab123** » Mon Jul 9, 2012 2:47 am

Aaron Brooks wrote:that doesnt do anything for us

The pick would, also JJJ gives you guys another PF, for whatever reason Morey is trying to collect power forwards. Gives depth to your team I would think. Bradley isn't going anywhere and Melo or Sullinger can't be traded until mid season since they just signed their rookie deals per the CBA.

College Boy · Post #28 » by **College Boy** » Mon Jul 9, 2012 3:01 am

chrisab123 wrote:
Aaron Brooks wrote:that doesnt do anything for us

The pick would, also JJJ gives you guys another PF, for whatever reason Morey is trying to collect power forwards. Gives depth to your team I would think. Bradley isn't going anywhere and Melo or Sullinger can't be traded until mid season since they just signed their rookie deals per the CBA.

2Mas · Post #29 » by **2Mas** » Mon Jul 9, 2012 6:14 pm

Give you Moore & a 2nd for Lee?

rocketsballin · Post #30 » by **rocketsballin** » Mon Jul 9, 2012 6:36 pm

moore, as in etuawn moore a 2nd pick and another 2nd pick for one of the best peremeter defenders in the league with a streaky shot?

MaxRider · Post #31 » by **MaxRider** » Mon Jul 9, 2012 6:52 pm

2Mas wrote:Give you Moore & a 2nd for Lee?

Lee is a defender that can shoot
better than Bradley
at least 1st round pick

cellar-door · Post #32 » by **cellar-door** » Tue Jul 10, 2012 12:16 am

well based on what the knicks gave up to get Camby I think it is safe to say if Lee chooses the Celtics not much will be coming back. Something like Dooling on a cheap deal for one year, one of the unguaranteed deals (moore or williams) 1 or 2 seconds? That would also create a nice 1.3M or so TPE.
With Lee coming back not an option, and his leaving for nothing a real possibility there isn't a ton of leverage as the Camby deal shows.

Teckon · Post #33 » by **Teckon** » Tue Jul 10, 2012 6:14 am

cellar-door wrote:well based on what the knicks gave up to get Camby I think it is safe to say if Lee chooses the Celtics not much will be coming back. Something like Dooling on a cheap deal for one year, one of the unguaranteed deals (moore or williams) 1 or 2 seconds? That would also create a nice 1.3M or so TPE.
With Lee coming back not an option, and his leaving for nothing a real possibility there isn't a ton of leverage as the Camby deal shows.

Knicks actually paid a high value for Camby and if that is any indication, then Rockets may get a good return in sign n trade for Lee. Lee has as many as 8 teams interested in him and if Celtics are not able to provide some good return to Rockets, and another team can, then Lee will be going to the other team since he will get higher salaries in sign n trade scenario. Celtics does not have the cap space to sign him outright.

Celts17Pride · Post #34 » by **Celts17Pride** » Tue Jul 10, 2012 3:24 pm

cellar-door wrote:well based on what the knicks gave up to get Camby I think it is safe to say if Lee chooses the Celtics not much will be coming back. Something like Dooling on a cheap deal for one year, one of the unguaranteed deals (moore or williams) 1 or 2 seconds? That would also create a nice 1.3M or so TPE.
With Lee coming back not an option, and his leaving for nothing a real possibility there isn't a ton of leverage as the Camby deal shows.

Dooling would have to be a sign and trade which means a 3 year deal which is not likely to happen.

I think the only deal that really works is E'Twuan Moore, Sean Williams, Jajuan Johnson and the BobCats 2nd round pick next year for Lee. Moore and Williams have non-guaranteed deals. Houston would get a $1.4 trade exception and Lee would get a 3 year deal averaging $4.4 per year.

Don't know if Boston, Houston or Lee would be interested in a deal like this one.

AKFO · Post #35 » by **AKFO** » Tue Jul 10, 2012 4:09 pm

Dooling's first year is the only one that had to be guaranteed (or so I was told by a friend of mine). I was thinking either Dooling (with about a 3-3.5 million dollar deal), Moore(non-guaranteed), S. Williams, JaJuan Johnson, and our second, or Dooling, E. Moore, S. Williams, and either our first or the Bobcats' second.

Celts17Pride · Post #36 » by **Celts17Pride** » Tue Jul 10, 2012 4:48 pm

YiJiLi wrote:Dooling's first year is the only one that had to be guaranteed (or so I was told by a friend of mine). I was thinking either Dooling (with about a 3-3.5 million dollar deal), Moore(non-guaranteed), S. Williams, JaJuan Johnson, and our second, or Dooling, E. Moore, S. Williams, and either our first or the Bobcats' second.

Good to know about the first year only being guaranteed. That's pretty much the combination of players. Who knows if it will actually get done.

x- · Post #37 » by x- » Tue Jul 10, 2012 5:00 pm

YiJiLi wrote:Dooling's first year is the only one that had to be guaranteed (or so I was told by a friend of mine).

That's correct.

Wouldn't you guys want to re-sign Dooling for the cheap yourselves though? We could do the same deal with Wilcox instead of Dooling for example.

I believe if Lee chooses to go to the Celtics, it will be S.Williams, Moore, Wilcox/Dooling and a couple of picks.

cellar-door · Post #38 » by **cellar-door** » Tue Jul 10, 2012 8:02 pm

x- wrote:
YiJiLi wrote:Dooling's first year is the only one that had to be guaranteed (or so I was told by a friend of mine).

That's correct.

Wouldn't you guys want to re-sign Dooling for the cheap yourselves though? We could do the same deal with Wilcox instead of Dooling for example.

I believe if Lee chooses to go to the Celtics, it will be S.Williams, Moore, Wilcox/Dooling and a couple of picks.

Dooling is the only player who the celtics can use in a S&T. Wilcox was not on the roster to end the season so he can't be used. (also I don't think they have bird rights on him anyway)
Also between Rondo and Terry there aren't going to be many minutes at PG available, E'Twan moore or someone else at the minimum is most likely for the 3rd PG.

Mount Mutombo · Post #39 » by **Mount Mutombo** » Wed Jul 11, 2012 9:45 am

inquisitive wrote:more picks baby!! yoohoo! bring them on!!

Oh yeah! Nothing like drafting crappy mid first rounders who end up in Slovakia in three years. :lol:

kam_soluusar · Post #40 » by **kam_soluusar** » Wed Jul 11, 2012 12:11 pm

Even Batman needs a Robin at times.

When Chuckwagon comes home to Houston, he may need a little help to take on the rest of the league. Lee could be his sidekick.