Official Speculation Thread (Pt. XXXV Off-Season Edition)

IGotDaMagicInMe · Post #181 » by **IGotDaMagicInMe** » Tue Jul 10, 2012 12:53 am

von wafer has one of the best names ever

Post #182 » by **SOUL** » Tue Jul 10, 2012 12:53 am

HENNIGAN I SWEAR YOU BETTER TAKE ROCKETS PACKAGE

Post #183 » by **Def Swami** » Tue Jul 10, 2012 12:54 am

Frank Isola ‏@FisolaNYDN
A league official claims a Nets deal for Dwight Howard is not close...we've heard that before & next thing u know there's a conference call

tiderulz · Post #184 » by **tiderulz** » Tue Jul 10, 2012 12:54 am

NEM wrote:they should sign and trade lee to boston for the celtics first rounder this season, and send the following to us:

martin
parsons
lamb
jones
motijenuas
douglas
harrelson
raptors lottery pick
houstons 2014 and 2016 first rounders
bostons 2013 first rounder
knicks second rounders

for

dwight
j-rich
q-rich
duhon

way too much. i would be happy with half of that.

woosah · Post #185 » by **woosah** » Tue Jul 10, 2012 12:54 am

IGotDaMagicInMe wrote:
clevermelvin wrote:
AhaAha wrote:jrich and Big Baby are definitly moveable contracts...

Thank Otis for getting us 2 assets!

BTW We slaughtered Boston in the Bass-BBD trade. Otis did us right that time.

Not if you ask JVG or Boston, but I agree, BBD all the way, he was real bad at the beginning of the year, but he was going through a rough time in his life with his dad dying amongst some other issues. Plus wth howard out he balled

I wouldn't mind holding on to Baby. He is one of the people that annoy Howard on D. Notice I said annoy not stop, but yeah I think Baby is an asset.

arkknight1988 · Post #186 » by **arkknight1988** » Tue Jul 10, 2012 12:54 am

i like lamb and parsons. we need that youth on the wings

EasternMagic · Post #187 » by **EasternMagic** » Tue Jul 10, 2012 12:54 am

There has to be something I am not understanding about the Houston option.. from my standpoint we can get better cheaper players, better picks, and unload contracts... AND hou is willing to rent him.. why is there even a question on to which offer you take?

Post #188 » by **Def Swami** » Tue Jul 10, 2012 12:57 am

Jameer/Wayns
Lamb/JJ
Parsons/White
BBD/Nicholson/Harper
Fran/D-Mo/O'Quinn

JJ and BBD will both be dealt for draft picks or better wing players.

ehmjay1 · Post #189 » by **ehmjay1** » Tue Jul 10, 2012 12:57 am

AdamTheGreek wrote:I wish Houston good luck, but you know Dwight and his people will fight this to the death.

What power does he have? He's going to say he won't extend there? ...there's not much else he can do. Nothing would be more appeasing than Dwight getting screwed into something he doesn't want, and the magic getting young prospects.

CourtsideTV · Post #190 » by **CourtsideTV** » Tue Jul 10, 2012 12:57 am

wait whats the houston offer and is it legit?

Post #191 » by **Def Swami** » Tue Jul 10, 2012 12:58 am

CourtsideTV wrote:wait whats the houston offer and is it legit?

Not sure, but their assets look far more appealing.

OrlandoMajinBuu · Post #192 » by **OrlandoMajinBuu** » Tue Jul 10, 2012 12:58 am

I keep saying this!!! Houston deal is the best to rebuild. And we need that... And I know Henny is targeting on that. OKC style of build.

clevermelvin · Post #193 » by **clevermelvin** » Tue Jul 10, 2012 12:58 am

VGOSWAMI wrote:Jameer/Wayns
Lamb/JJ
Parsons/White
BBD/Nicholson/Harper
Fran/D-Mo/O'Quinn

JJ and BBD will both be dealt for draft picks or better wing players.

Why would we deal them? I really like that team with BBD, JJ and Jameer showing the young guys how its done. That would be a really fun team. and I'd have JJ starting over Lamb. Cmon man

rcklsscognition · Post #194 » by **rcklsscognition** » Tue Jul 10, 2012 12:59 am

AshBlackstone wrote:
rcklsscognition wrote:Lopez averaged 1.5 BPG which is 0.7 BPG different than Dwight, or less than 2 points assuming the ball being block had a 100% shot of making it, which it doesn't, but I don't want to get into the math.

If you want to hate this trade because of Lopez, it'd make much more sense to point out that he has foot troubles and has questionable rebounding desires.

Obviously we're comparing apples to apples, but it's like a granny smith and a fuji. Dwight is defense first, Lopez is offense. Just like there was a solution for Howard's lack of offense (stretch 4, lots of 3s), there is a solution for Lopez's lack of rebounding desire (Kris Humphries was 5th in the NBA in rebounding last year and is a 10 rebound a game guy) and that solution is a defensive minded, rebounding 4.

If Henny thinks this is the best move, he must have a plan to put a team that utilitizes Lopez's strengths and minimizes his weaknesses. We've stacked up a lot of big, traditional PFs and Cs if that is any clue to what he's thinking.

Uh, you do know that there is more to defense than blocking shots, right? The idea that you're even comparing blocked shot numbers to show that the difference between the two defensively isn't that bad(and I know that's what you're implying)....is so absurd I don't even know where to begin. Howard's help defense, and defensive rotations are the best in the leauge by far. He is able to cover for the mistakes of the other 4 players on the floor, consistently.

I don't really know how to say this without sounding insulting, but if you're implying what I think you're implying ...I would have to seriously question your knowledge of the game.

You're so smart. You found out I was trying to say Lopez is better than Dwight. You got me man.

thelead · Post #195 » by **thelead** » Tue Jul 10, 2012 12:59 am

VGOSWAMI wrote:
Frank Isola ‏@FisolaNYDN
A league official claims a Nets deal for Dwight Howard is not close...we've heard that before & next thing u know there's a conference call

says the homer

Noonskadoodle · Post #196 » by **Noonskadoodle** » Tue Jul 10, 2012 12:59 am

VGOSWAMI wrote:
CourtsideTV wrote:wait whats the houston offer and is it legit?

Not sure, but their assets look far more appealing.

Hell 1/3rd of their assets looks more appealing.

ADRajX · Post #197 » by **ADRajX** » Tue Jul 10, 2012 12:59 am

Stick it to Dwight... ship him to Houston... don't give him what he wants... plus it's a better rebuilding package... no brainer here.

AshBlackstone · Post #198 » by **AshBlackstone** » Tue Jul 10, 2012 12:59 am

EasternMagic wrote:There has to be something I am not understanding about the Houston option.. from my standpoint we can get better cheaper players, better picks, and unload contracts... AND hou is willing to rent him.. why is there even a question on to which offer you take?

Because while it's a better deal than the pu-pu platter the Nets can offer, perhaps Rob Hennigan wants to create a bidding war? I mean, the Houston deal still isn't great. It's just a lot better than what the Nets can do for us.

Perhaps this deal with the Nets is just something Hennigan and his henchmen are throwing out there in the media, to try and get more teams involved, or other teams involved to up their offers.

I'm freaking out about the reported possible deal with the Nets, but I also recognize this other possibility that Hennigan is just playing teams against each other by leaking information to the media. Just a theory, though.

The Effect · Post #199 » by **The Effect** » Tue Jul 10, 2012 12:59 am

Orlando Tragic wrote:The only negative is Houston could likely trade DH to Nets in December if they cant convince him to sign?

Not our problem at that point

AdamTheGreek · Post #200 » by **AdamTheGreek** » Tue Jul 10, 2012 1:00 am

ehmjay1 wrote:
AdamTheGreek wrote:I wish Houston good luck, but you know Dwight and his people will fight this to the death.

What power does he have? He's going to say he won't extend there? ...there's not much else he can do. Nothing would be more appeasing than Dwight getting screwed into something he doesn't want, and the magic getting young prospects.

You screw Dwight and no meaningful free agent will want to come here for the next few years. You have to play basketball politics. Agents won't recommend us as a destination if we don't adhere to the wishes of a star player.