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Is this a 6 seed?

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Re: Is this a 6 seed? 

Post#21 » by Mattya » Mon Jul 9, 2012 6:49 pm

AVolumeScorer wrote:
touchedbyPek wrote:Rubio/Ridnour/Barea (one or the other, not sure if we're keeping both)
Roy/Ellington/Malcolm Lee
Batum/Budinger/Derrick Williams/Wes/Hummel
Love/Derrick Williams/Tolliver
Pek/Stiemsma

Yeah, I see that team making it. A sixth seed? I can see it, as long as yeah, we can stay healthy. Also what could help us get a higher seed, is the fact that some of the western teams appear to be getting weaker, except for the Hornets haha

Is this the Hornets lineup assuming they get Gordon back?
Jack/Rivers
Gordon/Rivers/Belinelli?
Vasquez?/Miller
Davis/Aminu
Kaman/Ayon

that doesn't look any better than even Golden State tbh


I'm a fan of Gordon, but he has to stay healthy which he hasn't shown to be able to do, and I'm not a big fan of Davis. I think he has to put on a lot more weight before we makes a big difference on offense, he will be ok on D getting a lot of blocks but I also seeing him giving up a lot of points his rookie season.
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Re: Is this a 6 seed? 

Post#22 » by [RCG] » Mon Jul 9, 2012 7:28 pm

Mattya wrote:
AVolumeScorer wrote:
touchedbyPek wrote:Rubio/Ridnour/Barea (one or the other, not sure if we're keeping both)
Roy/Ellington/Malcolm Lee
Batum/Budinger/Derrick Williams/Wes/Hummel
Love/Derrick Williams/Tolliver
Pek/Stiemsma

Yeah, I see that team making it. A sixth seed? I can see it, as long as yeah, we can stay healthy. Also what could help us get a higher seed, is the fact that some of the western teams appear to be getting weaker, except for the Hornets haha

Is this the Hornets lineup assuming they get Gordon back?
Jack/Rivers
Gordon/Rivers/Belinelli?
Vasquez?/Miller
Davis/Aminu
Kaman/Ayon

that doesn't look any better than even Golden State tbh


I'm a fan of Gordon, but he has to stay healthy which he hasn't shown to be able to do, and I'm not a big fan of Davis. I think he has to put on a lot more weight before we makes a big difference on offense, he will be ok on D getting a lot of blocks but I also seeing him giving up a lot of points his rookie season.


Agreed. That team is still very bad. Very young, inexperienced. Gordon has an awfully tough time staying healthy. Davis is not an offensive force at all and I'm not sold on Rivers.
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Re: Is this a 6 seed? 

Post#23 » by Klomp » Mon Jul 9, 2012 7:33 pm

Anderson will find it much more difficult to score without a threat in the post. Anthony Davis is not Dwight Howard.
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Re: Is this a 6 seed? 

Post#24 » by touchedbyPek » Mon Jul 9, 2012 7:44 pm

No, I don't really expect the Hornets to contend right away, but if somehow everything goes together well, and they keep getting lucky (David Stern) then they could be decent.

Jack seemed to really excel for them last year. I really don't see Rivers as a PG, so good luck with that, but I still feel like he could be a decent to great SG. They still have Al-Farouq Aminu, I'm pretty sure, eh, not a big fan of him, but he still has potential, along with Xavier Henry. And Eric Gordon, it looks like he's stuck there. But he should be great, a 25 PPG scorer if his heart and ankles are there. But Ryan Anderson and Anthony Davis should benefit each other and should be a great combo. Not entirely sure about Davis being big enough to handle the Center position, but with his defensive abilities, I'd imagine he'll be just fine. They should be able to pull down a good amount of rebounds.

Who knows? If everything meshes well and they can add another piece or two, they might be able to make it as a 7 or 8 seed. It depends greatly on how effective Rivers and Davis can be right away, but if not, their time will come. They have a couple seasons to get it together.
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Re: Is this a 6 seed? 

Post#25 » by Dewey » Tue Jul 10, 2012 4:20 am

seriously who cares ? In the pllayoffs or your not ...
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Re: Is this a 6 seed? 

Post#26 » by RTG HD » Tue Jul 10, 2012 5:29 am

Roy is not what he once was but if you rest him for the playoffs he could get you to the second round. The guy is clutch.
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Re: Is this a 6 seed? 

Post#27 » by GuyFawkes11 » Tue Jul 10, 2012 5:51 am

from cannishoppus:

I believed that what Portland decided regarding Nicolas Batum would hinge on what Indiana decided regarding Roy Hibbert. It now appears that that is indeed the case.

Speaking towards Portland's plans now that Hibbert is returning to the Pacers, Trailblazers' GM Nick Olshey had this to say:

"I don’t see the guys who fit the criteria we are looking for. I’m not going hamstring the org. with $7-8 million contracts on guys who don’t move the needle. It’s counterproductive.’

This is interesting in a couple ways. For one, Batum is technically a part of the free agent market. This would seem to imply that when Olshey says he "doesn't see the guys who fit the criteria we are looking for", he is including Batum in the line of thought. Second, he seems to have drawn a line in the sand at the $7 million/year range. If you'll all remember, the Blazers tried to re-sign Batum back in January in the $6mil/year range, and he rejected that. So to Olshey, Batum does fit the criteria of being a guy who would cost more than $7mil/year without moving the needle.

This also jives with what I've been hearing about Portland's mindset on this: all or nothing. They clearly don't think Batum is worth $12mil/year. They barely offered him half of that in January. But if they had landed Hibbert, they would have been willing to pay him that anyway to field what they believed would be a genuinely competitive team. If not, then the price tag would be too high. Batum's not the type of player to make a bad team good.

So the sum take-away of this is, if the Blazers won't spend more than $7 mil, and Batum won't sign for less than $7 mil, then the Blazers are not resigning Batum.

Also, as noted, Olshey's response to the question of if Batum said he doesn't want to return to Portland was halfhearted and pretty dodgy.

Olshey asked: "Has Nic expressed to you that he doesn’t want to come back here?" Olshey answer: "Why wouldn’t Nic want to come back here?’’

Granted, I don't particularly condone what Batum's agent did in airing that kind of laundry (although let's not act like Kahn didn't have something to do with that as well....), it would appear that what he said on behalf of his client was true. Batum doesn't want to return to Portland. He wants to play here.

Nothing's done until it's done, but this seems pretty safe to call at this point: if the Wolves can make the finances work out to actually put that $45mil offer on the table, Nic Batum will be a Timberwolf this season
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Re: Is this a 6 seed? 

Post#28 » by Hambone93 » Tue Jul 10, 2012 5:56 am

Twolves will make the PO's this, 7 or 8 seed, and upset OKC in the first round. You heard it here first.
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Re: Is this a 6 seed? 

Post#29 » by [RCG] » Tue Jul 10, 2012 5:57 am

GuyFawkes11 wrote:from cannishoppus:

I believed that what Portland decided regarding Nicolas Batum would hinge on what Indiana decided regarding Roy Hibbert. It now appears that that is indeed the case.

Speaking towards Portland's plans now that Hibbert is returning to the Pacers, Trailblazers' GM Nick Olshey had this to say:

"I don’t see the guys who fit the criteria we are looking for. I’m not going hamstring the org. with $7-8 million contracts on guys who don’t move the needle. It’s counterproductive.’

This is interesting in a couple ways. For one, Batum is technically a part of the free agent market. This would seem to imply that when Olshey says he "doesn't see the guys who fit the criteria we are looking for", he is including Batum in the line of thought. Second, he seems to have drawn a line in the sand at the $7 million/year range. If you'll all remember, the Blazers tried to re-sign Batum back in January in the $6mil/year range, and he rejected that. So to Olshey, Batum does fit the criteria of being a guy who would cost more than $7mil/year without moving the needle.

This also jives with what I've been hearing about Portland's mindset on this: all or nothing. They clearly don't think Batum is worth $12mil/year. They barely offered him half of that in January. But if they had landed Hibbert, they would have been willing to pay him that anyway to field what they believed would be a genuinely competitive team. If not, then the price tag would be too high. Batum's not the type of player to make a bad team good.

So the sum take-away of this is, if the Blazers won't spend more than $7 mil, and Batum won't sign for less than $7 mil, then the Blazers are not resigning Batum.

Also, as noted, Olshey's response to the question of if Batum said he doesn't want to return to Portland was halfhearted and pretty dodgy.

Olshey asked: "Has Nic expressed to you that he doesn’t want to come back here?" Olshey answer: "Why wouldn’t Nic want to come back here?’’

Granted, I don't particularly condone what Batum's agent did in airing that kind of laundry (although let's not act like Kahn didn't have something to do with that as well....), it would appear that what he said on behalf of his client was true. Batum doesn't want to return to Portland. He wants to play here.

Nothing's done until it's done, but this seems pretty safe to call at this point: if the Wolves can make the finances work out to actually put that $45mil offer on the table, Nic Batum will be a Timberwolf this season


Nice! I mean he does make a good point, if Blazers only offered $6 mil per/year why would they go on to pay nearly double that?

Maybe just putting that offer on the table is now good enough to get Batum. Or a simple S&T for a TPE & Memphis 1st - maybe or maybe not include Ridnour. Here's to hoping!
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Re: Is this a 6 seed? 

Post#30 » by eroomlladnar » Wed Jul 11, 2012 9:26 am

To who said that we played LAC close this past year...

Minnesota swept them
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Re: Is this a 6 seed? 

Post#31 » by [RCG] » Wed Jul 11, 2012 3:35 pm

eroomlladnar wrote:To who said that we played LAC close this past year...

Minnesota swept them


If we played the Clippers every game this year we'd be undefeated and Derrick Williams would be a future HOFer :lol:
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Re: Is this a 6 seed? 

Post#32 » by NikolaPekovic » Wed Jul 11, 2012 3:42 pm

i hope so... i think we have a chance of beating anyone in the west that is not okc/lakers/spurs.


if we get 7th or 8th seed we are guaranteed a first round knockout.

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