Official Speculation Thread (Pt. XXXV Off-Season Edition)

Nolimit1211 · Post #721 » by **Nolimit1211** » Tue Jul 10, 2012 4:40 pm

^^ Because they can outright sign him this offseason, they're not gonna gut their team... He'd simply leave for a better situation (Dallas + CP3)

AND ATL is looking to pair him with CP3, taking Hedo + Brick destroys that.

ehmjay1 · Post #722 » by **ehmjay1** » Tue Jul 10, 2012 4:42 pm

VGOSWAMI wrote:JJ Redick just retweeted this....
Henry Abbott ‏@TrueHoop
People fired up about super teams: Your enemy is max salaries. If LeBron made $50 million, doubt he'd play with Wade http://espn.go.com/blog/truehoop/post/_ ... out-parity
Retweeted by JJ Redick

Wow never actually thought about it...but that's a really interesting idea provided you keep the cap where it is

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ThatFloridaDude · Post #723 » by **ThatFloridaDude** » Tue Jul 10, 2012 4:43 pm

TDJacksonville wrote:
ThatFloridaDude wrote:Off topic, but more people post in here. I JUST took my damn brighhouse digital box back, is there a way or link to watch NBA TV online?

VIPBOX.tv should have it

Awesome. Thanks man.

MoMM · Post #724 » by **MoMM** » Tue Jul 10, 2012 4:44 pm

ehmjay1 wrote:
VGOSWAMI wrote:JJ Redick just retweeted this....
Henry Abbott ‏@TrueHoop
People fired up about super teams: Your enemy is max salaries. If LeBron made $50 million, doubt he'd play with Wade http://espn.go.com/blog/truehoop/post/_ ... out-parity
Retweeted by JJ Redick

Wow never actually thought about it...but that's a really interesting idea provided you keep the cap where it is

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Imagine Otis offering a 50M per year contract to Lewis...

OrlChamps2030 · Post #725 » by **OrlChamps2030** » Tue Jul 10, 2012 4:45 pm

You're out of your mind (or just angry) if you don't think the Nets will contend. Get past Miami? I'm not sure. But they will be an elite team.

BTW I know this is a few days old but I still found it interesting: "@JJRedick: Saw that Rashard Lewis got bought out. Hope he catches on with a contender. Best teammate and pro I've ever been around."

Dgbarnes · Post #726 » by **Dgbarnes** » Tue Jul 10, 2012 4:46 pm

ThatFloridaDude wrote:
You need 12 players minimum, so you can continue to think small if you want. Neither of those dudes have proved anything except Howard and Wallace. Johnson is a 6 time all star but come on, the guy is not a player that has "KILLER INSTINCT" and neither is HOWARD. The only player on that team that'd have the KILLER INSTINCT is D WILL. Miami has several guys with the killer instinct mentality. So Does OKC. The Spurs have more guys with the mentality for crying out loud.

NOT only that, I didn't say they would contend, but thats not a championship team. Without a bench and some good gelling amongst the 4 scorers they would have, they will not be winning a championship.

"KILLER INSTINCT"? Thats so subjective man, sounds like something Skip Bayless would put out. Look, if you combine 4 players that have never won a championship and are all in their prime of after with numbers like 21ppg/19ppg/19ppg/15ppg on the same team. Throw in the leading scorer in Europe, that group is going to have the mentality to win a championship right off the bat because they know they are championship material.

Nyce_1 · Post #727 » by **Nyce_1** » Tue Jul 10, 2012 4:47 pm

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

Devin Ebanks is expected to re-sign with the Lakers on a one-year deal, according to sources close to the situation

ehmjay1 · Post #728 » by **ehmjay1** » Tue Jul 10, 2012 4:48 pm

ehmjay1 wrote:

Wow never actually thought about it...but that's a really interesting idea provided you keep the cap where it is

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Imagine Otis offering a 50M per year contract to Lewis...

Well GM'S and their decisions would become super important...but it would prevent super teams and keep the league so much more competitive.

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Post #729 » by **Def Swami** » Tue Jul 10, 2012 4:49 pm

Dgbarnes wrote:
ThatFloridaDude wrote:
You need 12 players minimum, so you can continue to think small if you want. Neither of those dudes have proved anything except Howard and Wallace. Johnson is a 6 time all star but come on, the guy is not a player that has "KILLER INSTINCT" and neither is HOWARD. The only player on that team that'd have the KILLER INSTINCT is D WILL. Miami has several guys with the killer instinct mentality. So Does OKC. The Spurs have more guys with the mentality for crying out loud.

NOT only that, I didn't say they would contend, but thats not a championship team. Without a bench and some good gelling amongst the 4 scorers they would have, they will not be winning a championship.

"KILLER INSTINCT"? Thats so subjective man, sounds like something Skip Bayless would put out. Look, if you combine 4 players that have never won a championship and are all in their prime of after with numbers like 21ppg/19ppg/19ppg/15ppg on the same team. Throw in the leading scorer in Europe, that group is going to have the mentality to win a championship right off the bat because they know they are championship material.

I'd also say that Ray Allen and Pierce weren't guys I would have considered to have a "Killer Instinct" before they came together in Boston, and they did just fine.

Post #730 » by **SOUL** » Tue Jul 10, 2012 4:51 pm

I still think he's going to Nets. I have no reason to believe Orlando GM's will ever make a smart move.

ThatFloridaDude · Post #731 » by **ThatFloridaDude** » Tue Jul 10, 2012 4:52 pm

Dgbarnes wrote:
ThatFloridaDude wrote:
You need 12 players minimum, so you can continue to think small if you want. Neither of those dudes have proved anything except Howard and Wallace. Johnson is a 6 time all star but come on, the guy is not a player that has "KILLER INSTINCT" and neither is HOWARD. The only player on that team that'd have the KILLER INSTINCT is D WILL. Miami has several guys with the killer instinct mentality. So Does OKC. The Spurs have more guys with the mentality for crying out loud.

NOT only that, I didn't say they would contend, but thats not a championship team. Without a bench and some good gelling amongst the 4 scorers they would have, they will not be winning a championship.

"KILLER INSTINCT"? Thats so subjective man, sounds like something Skip Bayless would put out. Look, if you combine 4 players that have never won a championship and are all in their prime of after with numbers like 21ppg/19ppg/19ppg/15ppg on the same team. Throw in the leading scorer in Europe, that group is going to have the mentality to win a championship right off the bat because they know they are championship material.

It's subjective, yet you make a subjective statement?... :lol:

Yes Killer Instinct. In the last decade, take a look at all of the finals.
Esp the one where L.A. and Orlando. Kobe had that killer instict to not let Orlando get a chance to even have hope.
Last Year, Dirk and the Mavs (while having a good team) had that "I WANT THE CHAMPIONSHIP NOW. or "WE NEED TO END THIS GAME BEFORE IT STARTS"

Dwight , Gerald, or Joe Johnson does not have that, and the last 4 or 5 years in the playoffs have proven that. Could they get it? Sure! Of course, but to say they are automatically champions is gully at best. Contend? Be Very Good? Top 3 team? Yes. But to beat up on teams who have been together longer, gelled longer, have better benches, and proven one or two things? No.

Nemesis21 · Post #732 » by **Nemesis21** » Tue Jul 10, 2012 4:52 pm

cvMagic wrote:
Nemesis21 wrote:This is probably a dumb question, but why would it have to be a rental for Minny ? They have a franchise PG and PF already in place. Rubio could be an All Star paired with Dwight, he could easily avg 15/12 playing with Dwight. They would just need to upgrade at the SG and SF positions. I'm sure they could attract a star wing player to come play with D12 and Rubio. Also Adelman is a very good coach, Dwight should be able to get along with him.

Rubio

Williams
Dwight

Addidas doesn't make snow shoes.

It snows in Brooklyn too.

OrlandO · Post #733 » by **OrlandO** » Tue Jul 10, 2012 4:52 pm

The Orlando Magic have re-opened negotiations with teams other than the Brooklyn Nets for Dwight Howard, a league source told ESPN The Magazine's Ric Bucher.

http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/81477 ... ource-says

Blue_and_Whte · Post #734 » by **Blue_and_Whte** » Tue Jul 10, 2012 4:52 pm

Zmill wrote:You're out of your mind (or just angry) if you don't think the Nets will contend. Get past Miami? I'm not sure. But they will be an elite team.

BTW I know this is a few days old but I still found it interesting: "@JJRedick: Saw that Rashard Lewis got bought out. Hope he catches on with a contender. Best teammate and pro I've ever been around."

That team would instantly be considered title contenders.

AdamTheGreek · Post #735 » by **AdamTheGreek** » Tue Jul 10, 2012 4:54 pm

Nolimit1211 wrote:
ThatFloridaDude wrote:
Nolimit1211 wrote:Lol @ leaving 20 million on the table.

Championship roster + New York City market + Adidas marketing plan >>>>>>>> Magics "20 million" and losing in the 1st round.

Soo the Big Four makes them automatically championship material? Lol? Don't get me wrong Orlando's roster needs some work, but I don't see the hype in Brooklyn's Roster with the addition of Dwight Howard.

Yes, they would be championship material. Because I witnessed Dwight alone carry Vince Carter and Hedo Turkoglu to the ECF back to back years.... Joe Johnson alone would be the best teammate he's ever had, let alone Deron friggin' Williams.

And our roster needs just "some work"? LOL.

Rashard, Hedo, and Rafer all say 'hi'.

Driguez · Post #736 » by **Driguez** » Tue Jul 10, 2012 4:56 pm

OrlandO wrote:
The Orlando Magic have re-opened negotiations with teams other than the Brooklyn Nets for Dwight Howard, a league source told ESPN The Magazine's Ric Bucher.

http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/81477 ... ource-says

Well looks like all the leaks over an "imminent" Nets trade made others up their offers. Give Henny and his team some time guys, seems they are really trying to get the best return possible.

Post #737 » by **Def Swami** » Tue Jul 10, 2012 4:56 pm

SOUL wrote:I still think he's going to Nets. I have no reason to believe Orlando GM's will ever make a smart move.

Of any team to make a move like this, it would be us.

MoMM · Post #738 » by **MoMM** » Tue Jul 10, 2012 4:56 pm

Humphries' agent, Dan Fegan, is still trying to convince Humphries to settle for a deal that will be guaranteed for just one year. Fegan also represents Howard. The Bobcats have more salary-cap space than the Cavs and would not be opposed to a multiyear deal for Humphries, a source told Bucher.

That's rediculous, he is forcing KH to sign a short deal just to help his other client.

OrlChamps2030 · Post #739 » by **OrlChamps2030** » Tue Jul 10, 2012 4:56 pm

Pietrus was big in the playoffs during the finals run too

that finals team was deep..too bad we didn't have one more solid big man on the roster because the Lakers frontline was too much for Dwight

ThatFloridaDude · Post #740 » by **ThatFloridaDude** » Tue Jul 10, 2012 4:57 pm

OrlandO wrote:
The Orlando Magic have re-opened negotiations with teams other than the Brooklyn Nets for Dwight Howard, a league source told ESPN The Magazine's Ric Bucher.

http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/81477 ... ource-says

As of today, I'm happy with this. I keep sayiing I like Henny. He seems to be one of those GM's that will NOT be bullied.