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Official Speculation Thread (Pt. XXXV Off-Season Edition)

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Re: Official Speculation Thread (Pt. XXXV Off-Season Edition 

Post#741 » by Def Swami » Tue Jul 10, 2012 4:57 pm

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Humphries' agent, Dan Fegan, is still trying to convince Humphries to settle for a deal that will be guaranteed for just one year. Fegan also represents Howard. The Bobcats have more salary-cap space than the Cavs and would not be opposed to a multiyear deal for Humphries, a source told Bucher.

That's rediculous, he is forcing KH to sign a short deal just to help his other client.

Fegan is a crook.
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Re: Official Speculation Thread (Pt. XXXV Off-Season Edition 

Post#742 » by Blue_and_Whte » Tue Jul 10, 2012 4:58 pm

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The Orlando Magic have re-opened negotiations with teams other than the Brooklyn Nets for Dwight Howard, a league source told ESPN The Magazine's Ric Bucher.

http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/81477 ... ource-says


Well looks like all the leaks over an "imminent" Nets trade made others up their offers. Give Henny and his team some time guys, seems they are really trying to get the best return possible.

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Re: Official Speculation Thread (Pt. XXXV Off-Season Edition 

Post#743 » by TDJacksonville » Tue Jul 10, 2012 4:58 pm

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MoMM wrote:
Humphries' agent, Dan Fegan, is still trying to convince Humphries to settle for a deal that will be guaranteed for just one year. Fegan also represents Howard. The Bobcats have more salary-cap space than the Cavs and would not be opposed to a multiyear deal for Humphries, a source told Bucher.

That's rediculous, he is forcing KH to sign a short deal just to help his other client.

Fegan is a crook.
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Official Speculation Thread (Pt. XXXV Off-Season Edition) 

Post#744 » by MagicTownBaller » Tue Jul 10, 2012 4:58 pm

MoMM wrote:
Humphries' agent, Dan Fegan, is still trying to convince Humphries to settle for a deal that will be guaranteed for just one year. Fegan also represents Howard. The Bobcats have more salary-cap space than the Cavs and would not be opposed to a multiyear deal for Humphries, a source told Bucher.

That's rediculous, he is forcing KH to sign a short deal just to help his other client.

If I was Humphries, I would fire Fegan now. Humphries had a great year last year and deserves a guaranteed deal. I mean, he signed a one year deal to keep New Jersey's cap space open, now he deserves at least a 3 year deal!

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Re: Official Speculation Thread (Pt. XXXV Off-Season Edition 

Post#745 » by ThatFloridaDude » Tue Jul 10, 2012 5:00 pm

Zmill wrote:Pietrus too^^

that finals team was deep..too bad we didn't have one more solid big man on the roster because the Lakers frontline was too much for Dwight

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Re: Official Speculation Thread (Pt. XXXV Off-Season Edition 

Post#746 » by Driguez » Tue Jul 10, 2012 5:00 pm

OrlandO wrote:
The Orlando Magic have re-opened negotiations with teams other than the Brooklyn Nets for Dwight Howard, a league source told ESPN The Magazine's Ric Bucher.

http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/81477 ... ource-says



I like this quote

"You can talk about the new (luxury) tax all you want, but if the Lakers get Nash and the Nets get Howard, then what did the new CBA accomplish?" one GM said. "You have to realize part of long-term planning is making sure you don't help create teams you can't beat."
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Re: Official Speculation Thread (Pt. XXXV Off-Season Edition 

Post#747 » by Nolimit1211 » Tue Jul 10, 2012 5:01 pm

AdamTheGreek wrote:
Nolimit1211 wrote:Yes, they would be championship material. Because I witnessed Dwight alone carry Vince Carter and Hedo Turkoglu to the ECF back to back years.... Joe Johnson alone would be the best teammate he's ever had, let alone Deron friggin' Williams.

And our roster needs just "some work"? LOL.


Rashard, Hedo, and Rafer all say 'hi'.

Not one of Rashard, Hedo & Rafer were better than 6x All Star Joe Johnson during their time with us... You are a fool if you believe otherwise.
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Re: Official Speculation Thread (Pt. XXXV Off-Season Edition 

Post#748 » by Blue_and_Whte » Tue Jul 10, 2012 5:01 pm

MoMM wrote:
Humphries' agent, Dan Fegan, is still trying to convince Humphries to settle for a deal that will be guaranteed for just one year. Fegan also represents Howard. The Bobcats have more salary-cap space than the Cavs and would not be opposed to a multiyear deal for Humphries, a source told Bucher.

That's rediculous, he is forcing KH to sign a short deal just to help his other client.

Dude is a snake. That's an interesting conversation. Kris I don't care about you. Please take a deal that doesnt benefit you so Dwight can be traded to the Nets and you can go to Cleveland.
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Re: Official Speculation Thread (Pt. XXXV Off-Season Edition 

Post#749 » by Def Swami » Tue Jul 10, 2012 5:02 pm

Nolimit1211 wrote:
AdamTheGreek wrote:
Nolimit1211 wrote:Yes, they would be championship material. Because I witnessed Dwight alone carry Vince Carter and Hedo Turkoglu to the ECF back to back years.... Joe Johnson alone would be the best teammate he's ever had, let alone Deron friggin' Williams.

And our roster needs just "some work"? LOL.


Rashard, Hedo, and Rafer all say 'hi'.

Not one of Rashard, Hedo & Rafer were better than 6x All Star Joe Johnson during their time with us... You are a fool if you believe otherwise.

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Re: Official Speculation Thread (Pt. XXXV Off-Season Edition 

Post#750 » by AdamTheGreek » Tue Jul 10, 2012 5:03 pm

Joe Johnson hasn't proven a damn thing in the playoffs. He makes Vince Carter (hell, even Ryno) look like a great postseason player. I was there in Atlanta for Game 4 of our 2010 series against the Hawks where the entire Phillips Arena booed Joe Johnson off the damn court when we swept them. He should've left that summer only to somehow get paid again. It's baffling.

At least Rashard and Hedo stepped their games up when it mattered.
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Re: Official Speculation Thread (Pt. XXXV Off-Season Edition 

Post#751 » by ThatFloridaDude » Tue Jul 10, 2012 5:05 pm

AdamTheGreek wrote:Joe Johnson hasn't proven a damn thing in the playoffs. He makes Vince Carter (hell, even Ryno) look like a great postseason player. I was there in Atlanta for Game 4 of our 2010 series against the Hawks where the entire Phillips Arena booed Joe Johnson off the damn court when we swept them. He should've left that summer only to somehow get paid again. It's baffling.

At least Rashard and Hedo stepped their games up when it mattered.

Exactly. He has yet to prove **** in the playoffs. These **** on here giving him far too much credit then he deserves in the playoffs.
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Re: Official Speculation Thread (Pt. XXXV Off-Season Edition 

Post#752 » by Nolimit1211 » Tue Jul 10, 2012 5:07 pm

AdamTheGreek wrote:he makes Vince Carter (hell, even Ryno) look like a great postseason player.

I'm done.
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Re: Official Speculation Thread (Pt. XXXV Off-Season Edition 

Post#753 » by toquito » Tue Jul 10, 2012 5:07 pm

Nolimit1211 wrote:
AdamTheGreek wrote:
Nolimit1211 wrote:Yes, they would be championship material. Because I witnessed Dwight alone carry Vince Carter and Hedo Turkoglu to the ECF back to back years.... Joe Johnson alone would be the best teammate he's ever had, let alone Deron friggin' Williams.

And our roster needs just "some work"? LOL.


Rashard, Hedo, and Rafer all say 'hi'.

Not one of Rashard, Hedo & Rafer were better than 6x All Star Joe Johnson during their time with us... You are a fool if you believe otherwise.

Damn i can't believe how many people overrate Joe Johnson. Ask any Atlanta fan if they think he was even the 3rd best player on their team. Rashard and Turk were team players. Replace them with Joe Johnson in 09 and we don't get past Boston.
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Re: Official Speculation Thread (Pt. XXXV Off-Season Edition 

Post#754 » by bigmoe1952 » Tue Jul 10, 2012 5:08 pm

OrlandO wrote:
The Orlando Magic have re-opened negotiations with teams other than the Brooklyn Nets for Dwight Howard, a league source told ESPN The Magazine's Ric Bucher.

http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/81477 ... ource-says


Thank you, God. Now lets hope one of them is Houston and Henny can get a good deal.
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Re: Official Speculation Thread (Pt. XXXV Off-Season Edition 

Post#755 » by KingRobb02 » Tue Jul 10, 2012 5:09 pm

toquito wrote:
Nolimit1211 wrote:
AdamTheGreek wrote:Rashard, Hedo, and Rafer all say 'hi'.

Not one of Rashard, Hedo & Rafer were better than 6x All Star Joe Johnson during their time with us... You are a fool if you believe otherwise.

Damn i can't believe how many people overrate Joe Johnson. Ask any Atlanta fan if they think he was even the 3rd best player on their team. Rashard and Turk were team players. Replace them with Joe Johnson in 09 and we don't get past Boston.

We're talking about a 6 time all star right?
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Re: Official Speculation Thread (Pt. XXXV Off-Season Edition 

Post#756 » by ThatFloridaDude » Tue Jul 10, 2012 5:09 pm

Wait a minute. Has Dwight ever actually said himself, why he insists on going to Brooklyn?
I understand we have speculated about the adiddas deal and him thinking he and D will is like Shaq and Penny ( -______________-) but has he actually said why he wants to play for "Brooklyn" since he made this place his only destination even before D Will chose where he would play?
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Re: Official Speculation Thread (Pt. XXXV Off-Season Edition 

Post#757 » by Howard Mass » Tue Jul 10, 2012 5:11 pm

The longer this goes on, the more I think this Nets deal is not going to happen.

Caproom is not an immediate concern when your going to be bad and The Magic need to get the best youth on good contracts and picks before scheding contracts or taking on a bad one (Brook Lopez).
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Re: Official Speculation Thread (Pt. XXXV Off-Season Edition 

Post#758 » by AhaAha » Tue Jul 10, 2012 5:13 pm

Howard Mass wrote:The longer this goes on, the more I think this Nets deal is not going to happen.

Caproom is not an immediate concern when your going to be bad and The Magic need to get the best youth on good contracts and picks before scheding contracts or taking on a bad one (Brook Lopez).


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Re: Official Speculation Thread (Pt. XXXV Off-Season Edition 

Post#759 » by Blue_and_Whte » Tue Jul 10, 2012 5:13 pm

Howard Mass wrote:The longer this goes on, the more I think this Nets deal is not going to happen.

Caproom is not an immediate concern when your going to be bad and The Magic need to get the best youth on good contracts and picks before scheding contracts or taking on a bad one (Brook Lopez).

He's going to Houston.
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Re: Official Speculation Thread (Pt. XXXV Off-Season Edition 

Post#760 » by Def Swami » Tue Jul 10, 2012 5:15 pm

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It's a negotiation, this is simply part of the game. I still say 90 percent chance Howard going to Brooklyn. And soon.

Hope he's wrong. He's planted a pretty strong flag.

Don't the Nets have to make the deal today? Is it the 11th or 12th that the Nets start making their other deals official?

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