Dwight Howard trade rumor thread (Talks on hold? P. 90)

inquisitive · Post #301 » by **inquisitive** » Wed Jul 11, 2012 12:25 am

the rockets will either end up with the best center in the league or the 2nd best center in the league...it was worth it! where are all those haters out there doubting morey.

inquisitive · Post #302 » by **inquisitive** » Wed Jul 11, 2012 12:26 am

GhostX wrote:If im Houston i try and hold on to Patrick patterson/Lamb and pair him with Bynum for my frontcourt. Maybe give Aaron Brooks 3yrs/15mill

A. Brooks
J Lamb
Parsons
Patterson
Bynum

LA Get: Howard, Duhon

HOU Get: Bynum, Turk, Mcroberts

ORL Get: TOR 1st, HOU 1st, K.Martin, T.Jones, R.White, Blake, Livingston

i like white more than patterson....t.jones is said to be a better version of patterson but who knows

ShowTimeERA · Post #303 » by **ShowTimeERA** » Wed Jul 11, 2012 12:27 am

GhostX wrote:If im Houston i try and hold on to Patrick patterson/Lamb and pair him with Bynum for my frontcourt. Maybe give Aaron Brooks 3yrs/15mill

A. Brooks
J Lamb
Parsons
Patterson
Bynum

LA Get: Howard, Duhon

HOU Get: Bynum, Turk, Mcroberts

ORL Get: TOR 1st, HOU 1st, K.Martin, T.Jones, R.White, Blake, Livingston

Someone will need to take on J-Rich as well..Same agent as Dwight and ORL is done dealing with him...

Nyce_1 · Post #304 » by **Nyce_1** » Wed Jul 11, 2012 12:29 am

give me Lamb, Ebanks, Parsons OR White, draft picks, and cap relief and I'm happy

better than that **** from Jersey.

Buckeye-NBAFan · Post #305 » by **Buckeye-NBAFan** » Wed Jul 11, 2012 12:30 am

D12VCMagic wrote:As a Magic fan, **** this trade. I want to rebuild, but we actually deserve something of value in return for a player like Dwight. Not just a couple of draft picks in the teens or twenties.

This is the best deal the Magic are going to get imo. They get a better mixture of prospects and picks than in the Nets deal, Lamb + their choice of two of White, Jones, or a future 1st from HOU + 2 future 1sts from LA, which is better in that the Nets picks will be later 1sts and they won't get 1-2 of them for a long time. They also get to dump perhaps Howard + Jrich or Hedo for a trade exception and maybe an expiring like McRoberts which saves them $25M or more this year alone. Heck, they could buy 8 1st rounders over the next 8 years with the money they save if they wanted, and they'd be picks that are as good any of the picks coming directly from the Nets who will be selecting in the 26-30 range.

Plus, if they didn't want to pay Ryan Anderson $36M, why do they want to pay Brook Lopez $75M?

They can also rebuild immediately rather than eating up cap space with a huge Lopez contract.

It's funny, Billy King could win exec of the year. But if the Nets don't get Howard because they dealt the #6 pick for a player they could've signed in free agency, he'll deserve to be fired.

The4thHorseman · Post #306 » by **The4thHorseman** » Wed Jul 11, 2012 12:32 am

So you Laker fans are OK with having to give up Bynum for Dwight for only 1 season? DH said himself there is no other team he would sign an extension with other than BKN.

Not sure why they don't just keep Bynum and hopes he re-signs?

OOO · Post #307 » by **OOO** » Wed Jul 11, 2012 12:33 am

The4thHorseman wrote:So you Laker fans are OK with having to give up Bynum for Dwight for only 1 season? DH said himself there is no other team he would sign an extension with other than BKN.

Not sure why they don't just keep Bynum and hopes he re-signs?

LOL. Dwight will not walk away from Hollywood and 30 million dollar.

Jordan45822 · Post #308 » by **Jordan45822** » Wed Jul 11, 2012 12:34 am

The4thHorseman wrote:So you Laker fans are OK with having to give up Bynum for Dwight for only 1 season? DH said himself there is no other team he would sign an extension with other than BKN.

Not sure why they don't just keep Bynum and hopes he re-signs?

he won't leave LA

eagles nut · Post #309 » by **eagles nut** » Wed Jul 11, 2012 12:34 am

On just the contract alone, Dwight can make $27M more guaranteed with LA than he can with a new team. Brooklyn won't have cap room next year. Plus, he's up for an Adidas extension and they'll pay him more money if he's in LA, NY, or CHI versus any other city. Up to $50M more according to Adrian Wojnarowski. He's not going to leave that much money on the table.

UnderdogKnicks · Post #310 » by **UnderdogKnicks** » Wed Jul 11, 2012 12:35 am

OOO wrote:
The4thHorseman wrote:So you Laker fans are OK with having to give up Bynum for Dwight for only 1 season? DH said himself there is no other team he would sign an extension with other than BKN.

Not sure why they don't just keep Bynum and hopes he re-signs?

LOL. Dwight will not walk away from Hollywood and 30 million dollar.

Yep Dwight fits perfectly there him being such a drama queen. He'll probably get his own reality tv show.

NekiEcko · Post #311 » by **NekiEcko** » Wed Jul 11, 2012 12:36 am

But I thought that Hawks has the 2013 Rockets 1st and 2nd this year, i thought?

But its a better deal than Nets but I think Hawks may counter. But the Rockets always hook up LA.

LALegend · Post #312 » by **LALegend** » Wed Jul 11, 2012 12:36 am

The4thHorseman wrote:So you Laker fans are OK with having to give up Bynum for Dwight for only 1 season? DH said himself there is no other team he would sign an extension with other than BKN.

Not sure why they don't just keep Bynum and hopes he re-signs?

And how exactly is he supposed to sign an extension with Brooklyn?

Optms · Post #313 » by **Optms** » Wed Jul 11, 2012 12:36 am

The4thHorseman wrote:So you Laker fans are OK with having to give up Bynum for Dwight for only 1 season? DH said himself there is no other team he would sign an extension with other than BKN.

Not sure why they don't just keep Bynum and hopes he re-signs?

If Bynum is all the Lakers give up than I won't kill myself over it.

But Dwight has no leverage here. He wants to go to Jersey. The moment he is traded, all that goes out the window and all that is left is re-sign with LA for more money or play elsewhere. I'm positive he will change his tune if he were traded to the Lakers.

The4thHorseman · Post #314 » by **The4thHorseman** » Wed Jul 11, 2012 12:39 am

eagles nut wrote:On just the contract alone, Dwight can make $27M more guaranteed with LA than he can with a new team. Brooklyn won't have cap room next year. Plus, he's up for an Adidas extension and they'll pay him more money if he's in LA, NY, or CHI versus any other city. Up to $50M more according to Adrian Wojnarowski. He's not going to leave that much money on the table.

Did not know that and thanks for the info. I was just going by what he said.

TayP · Post #315 » by **TayP** » Wed Jul 11, 2012 12:40 am

This is how I see the trade

Houston trades Jeremy Lamb/Terrence Jones/Toronto 1st/Dallas 1st/Kevin Martin/Shawn Livingston
Gets Andrew Bynum/Steve Blake

Lakers trade Andrew Bynum/2016 or 2017 1st/Steve Blake
Gets Dwight Howard Jason Richardson

Magic trade Dwight Howard/Jason Richardson
Gets Jeremy Lamb/Terrence Jones/Toronto 1st/Dallas 1st/Kevin Martin/Shawn Livingston

Magic probably would ask for White Parsons Morris or Patterson also but the Rockets would be giving up too much.

microfib4thewin · Post #316 » by **microfib4thewin** » Wed Jul 11, 2012 12:40 am

The Magic might as well let Dwight walk. It's pretty much swapping toxic contracts for less toxic ones and a couple of inconsequential picks. Even for Houston this is questionable because Bynum's starting salary for his next contract is going to be around 18 mil, so Morey only has 1-2 years to build a strong supporting cast for Bynum before he eats up too much caproom.

The only way a Howard deal would really make sense is a 2 way trade where the Magic can dump a contract. All these 3/4/5 way deals just aren't going to work unless the Magic is willing to take a low value package.

kblo247 · Post #317 » by **kblo247** » Wed Jul 11, 2012 12:41 am

This is huge

LakerFan4 wrote:
Quote:
Mike Bresnahan‏@Mike_Bresnahan

Key development in Lakers' pursuit of Dwight Howard: They're more open to taking back contract of G-F Jason Richardson (3 yrs, $18.6 mill).

The4thHorseman · Post #318 » by **The4thHorseman** » Wed Jul 11, 2012 12:41 am

LALegend wrote:
The4thHorseman wrote:So you Laker fans are OK with having to give up Bynum for Dwight for only 1 season? DH said himself there is no other team he would sign an extension with other than BKN.

Not sure why they don't just keep Bynum and hopes he re-signs?

And how exactly is he supposed to sign an extension with Brooklyn?

If he got traded there. Plus I'm assuming he also means that once he becomes a FA, that BKN is the only team he'll sign with.

SCourGe OF GoD · Post #319 » by **SCourGe OF GoD** » Wed Jul 11, 2012 12:42 am

Should have done this deal pre-draft so that Orlando could have selected who they wanted in the draft opposed to taking whoever houston took

An Unbiased Fan · Post #320 » by **An Unbiased Fan** » Wed Jul 11, 2012 12:42 am

Optms wrote:
The4thHorseman wrote:So you Laker fans are OK with having to give up Bynum for Dwight for only 1 season? DH said himself there is no other team he would sign an extension with other than BKN.

Not sure why they don't just keep Bynum and hopes he re-signs?

If Bynum is all the Lakers give up than I won't kill myself over it.

But Dwight has no leverage here. He wants to go to Jersey. The moment he is traded, all that goes out the window and all that is left is re-sign with LA for more money or play elsewhere. I'm positive he will change his tune if he were traded to the Lakers.

True. The only real threat would be Dallas, and with Cuban, that's not a threat to take lightly.