Dwight Howard trade rumor thread (Talks on hold? P. 90)

[The4thHorseman]

But I dont know how you can sell that to the Orlando fans? They missed out on Byunm and lose Howard as well and getting nothing back but picks that may not pan out. *Shake head* Oh well, atleast we know that this mess will be over with.

Clear out their cap and be a free agency player with this picks next year. Heck even having the expiring of Martin is another chip they can use. They would be selling the fans on we can revive this whole team this summer

They could, if there were those kind of FA's available. They'll just end up over paying for middle-of-the-road guys like some of the other teams have been forced to.

No chance they can revive the team in one summer or at least be competitive at that.

[Jugs]

FCK THE NBA

[Buckeye-NBAFan]

This is how I see the trade

Houston trades Jeremy Lamb/Terrence Jones/Toronto 1st/Dallas 1st/Kevin Martin/Shawn Livingston
Gets Andrew Bynum/Steve Blake

Lakers trade Andrew Bynum/2016 or 2017 1st/Steve Blake
Gets Dwight Howard Jason Richardson

Magic trade Dwight Howard/Jason Richardson
Gets Jeremy Lamb/Terrence Jones/Toronto 1st/Dallas 1st/Kevin Martin/Shawn Livingston

Magic probably would ask for White Parsons Morris or Patterson also but the Rockets would be giving up too much.

It doesn't make any sense for the Magic to pay Kevin Martin's contract when they'll just bench him to pay Lamb and other young guys. It doesn't make any sense for the Rockets to give up Martin when they're going to want to try and make the playoffs next year with Bynum. They can just rescind Dragic instead.

The Lakers would likely rather insist on Hedo than JRich as Hedo can help them more now and they don't have to take on 2014-15 salary. The Lakers should give up another 1st and the rockets should give up 1 fewer 1st.

Orlando would also probably not want Shaun Livingston's salary as it's not necessary to facilitate the trade if Houston rescinds Dragic.

Martin's an expiring contract, which is why Orlando wants him. Acquiring him and dumping J. Rich and Duhon free's up cap space next offseason. And I doubt if we bench him...may move him by the trade deadline but he'll be on display if we trade for him.

If they dump Howard and Hedo and just take back a McRoberts and prospects, then they have $20M in cap space THIS year.

[Shaheen]

I'm no rocket psychologist but when the nets finish 4-6 seed and gets bounced in the first round of the playoffs while he and the lakers get to the finals (at the very least to WCF). Why the **** would he even think about going to Brooklyn anymore?

Nets won't even make the playoffs. I don't think JJ adds enough wins.

Can you just do everyone a favor and change your username? Its a joke.

The Nets are retaining exactly 3 players from last season so far. Deron, Brooks, and Wallace.

I'm not even counting Lopez because he never even played.

Why would you compare the teams at all?

[JustBlaze]

But what about the Magic, they get junk and picks. Plus Lakers didnt even use one pick to give the Magic.

The Nets trade would give them expensive junk, and worse picks..obviously the Magic aren't going to get true value for Howard, but this LAL/HOU/ORL trade is wayy better than the Nets offer.

[Jugs]

but seriously, the Magic waited too long to trade him. They could've gotten a package like the one that netted Deron but alas

edit: although that package is a bit over-rated

[Wavy Q]

Nets won't even make the playoffs. I don't think JJ adds enough wins.

you're crazy, the East sucks.

[NekiEcko]

But I dont know how you can sell that to the Orlando fans? They missed out on Byunm and lose Howard as well and getting nothing back but picks that may not pan out. *Shake head* Oh well, atleast we know that this mess will be over with.

Clear out their cap and be a free agency player with this picks next year. Heck even having the expiring of Martin is another chip they can use. They would be selling the fans on we can revive this whole team this summer

They could, if there were those kind of FA's available. They'll just end up over paying for middle-of-the-road guys like some of the other teams have been forced to.

No chance they can revive the team in one summer or at least be competitive at that.

If that trade happens, its going to be a while until decent F/A looks at Orlando way, I dont think you can sell that to the fans, plus you have to remeber they have a new arena as well. Not good business.

[NekiEcko]

But what about the Magic, they get junk and picks. Plus Lakers didnt even use one pick to give the Magic.

The Nets trade would give them expensive junk, and worse picks..obviously the Magic aren't going to get true value for Howard, but this LAL/HOU/ORL trade is wayy better than the Nets offer.

and how that? I think the Hawks deal is better than this. So what is the different between Nets junk and Lakers/Rockets junk?

[SCourGe OF GoD]

but seriously, the Magic waited too long to trade him. They could've gotten a package like the one that netted Deron but alas

edit: although that package is a bit over-rated

Before he opted no one was offering anything of substance because they knew he'd just walk to Brooklyn..but when he opted in teams know now if they trade for him there isnt really as much risk of him walking ..and if he doesn so be it just tank

[freshtrinity46]

LOL at the Lakers fans who were ripping Nets fans like crazy yesterday about their deal, and now saying 'yep, this makes sense'

[PetroNet]

The Magic are screwed there's no good deals out there for them. At least take the risk and get bynum. Those picks are worthless

its easy to say that... but i mean... man. even if he does stay your looking at 5 years and 100 million for a guy who has missed:

36,0,57,32,21, 6 games respectively over his 6 year career. he has had knee surgery on both knees, and has had a surgery after each of the past 3 seasons.

$100 million and a 5 year deal is alot to invest in a guy with such shaky health. he also isnt exactly a saint attitude wise.

not saying it isnt there best option... it probably is. but i think the risk with bynum, if he DOES stay with orlando is somewhat understated.

[Jugs]

but seriously, the Magic waited too long to trade him. They could've gotten a package like the one that netted Deron but alas

edit: although that package is a bit over-rated

Before he opted no one was offering anything of substance because they knew he'd just walk to Brooklyn..but when he opted in teams know now if they trade for him there isnt really as much risk of him walking ..and if he doesn so be it just tank

no team had a GM crazy enough like Billy King to take a risk on a short contract (like he did with Deron). however, he had the luxury of being on a team people wanted to go to as opposed to a team that people wanted to leave

[JoseRizal]

Nets won't even make the playoffs. I don't think JJ adds enough wins.

Unbiased? Really?

[Kupchak9]

But what about the Magic, they get junk and picks. Plus Lakers didnt even use one pick to give the Magic.

The Nets trade would give them expensive junk, and worse picks..obviously the Magic aren't going to get true value for Howard, but this LAL/HOU/ORL trade is wayy better than the Nets offer.

and how that? I think the Hawks deal is better than this. So what is the different between Nets junk and Lakers/Rockets junk?

The Nets package would force Orlando to be a treadmill team struggling to make the playoffs (even in the East) for the next 4-5 years or so without any cap flexibility, due to the near max money Brook Lopez would earn. The 3 firsts they would receive would be attractive if they weren't destined to be late 20s.

On the contrary, the Magic would be able to gain multiple young prospects and draft picks in the new deal while at the same time creating an abundance of cap relief.

[Biscuit]

[Lakersmylife]

LOL at the Lakers fans who were ripping Nets fans like crazy yesterday about their deal, and now saying 'yep, this makes sense'

The Magic get what they want(Capspace/Picks/young players/getting rid of bad contracts), the Rockets get Bynum, who reportedly would extend with them, although they have to take a bad contract or 2, and the Lakers get Dwight, although they would have to also take a bad contract as well. What's the problem? The Nets deal was complete trash and you know it.

[OOO]

lmao.

[TheXFactor]

[PetroNet]

but seriously, the Magic waited too long to trade him. They could've gotten a package like the one that netted Deron but alas

edit: although that package is a bit over-rated

the utah package is overrated? They got:

Derrick Favors(the #3 pick that year), the #3 pick in the 2011 draft(became enes kanter), the warriors pick(2014 top 6 protected), Devin Harris on a short manageable contract, and 3M in cash.

how is that not an excellent package? A young talented rookie bigman, a top 3 pick, another first rounder, a very solid PG on short money and cash?

your not getting a better deal then that.