Dwight Howard trade rumor thread (Talks on hold? P. 90)

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Re: Lakers - Rockets - Magic Talk trade 

Post#821 » by mrlancers » Wed Jul 11, 2012 8:03 am

eablinksum wrote:I think the problem with Dwight staying in Houston is that he isn't rational. IDK what the owner of the Nets did to Dwight, but he is dead set on going to Brooklyn.
Its like he brainwashed his ass or has his family for ransom. ITs kind of scary. I have never seen a player so dead set at ending up in one place.


Jay-Z offered Dwight a night with Beyonce? Only rule is he can't tell anyone it happened.

There's a future RealGM poll. Would you sign with the Nets if Jay-Z let you have one night with Beyonce under the condition you can't brag about it to your friends?
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Re: Lakers - Rockets - Magic Talk trade 

Post#822 » by EArl » Wed Jul 11, 2012 8:05 am

therealbig3 wrote:^Melo was just as dead set at ending up in NY. The difference is that he was a lot smarter about it, and didn't opt-in...and the Nuggets front office isn't as catastrophic as the Magic's.

Melo was not like Howard. Howard brought a whole new level of craziness. He has destroyed his rep worse than Lebrewski. I never thought i would say that. I actually like Lebron more than Dwight at this point. This coming from a border line Lebron hater.
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Re: Lakers - Rockets - Magic Talk trade 

Post#823 » by Shaheen » Wed Jul 11, 2012 8:05 am

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Re: Lakers - Rockets - Magic Talk trade 

Post#824 » by EArl » Wed Jul 11, 2012 8:05 am

mrlancers wrote:
eablinksum wrote:I think the problem with Dwight staying in Houston is that he isn't rational. IDK what the owner of the Nets did to Dwight, but he is dead set on going to Brooklyn.
Its like he brainwashed his ass or has his family for ransom. ITs kind of scary. I have never seen a player so dead set at ending up in one place.


Jay-Z offered Dwight a night with Beyonce? Only rule is he can't tell anyone it happened.

There's a future RealGM poll. Would you sign with the Nets if Jay-Z let you have one night with Beyonce under the condition you can't brag about it to your friends?

Put me down on that list. :lol:
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Re: Lakers - Rockets - Magic Talk trade 

Post#825 » by therealbig3 » Wed Jul 11, 2012 8:05 am

mrlancers wrote:
eablinksum wrote:I think the problem with Dwight staying in Houston is that he isn't rational. IDK what the owner of the Nets did to Dwight, but he is dead set on going to Brooklyn.
Its like he brainwashed his ass or has his family for ransom. ITs kind of scary. I have never seen a player so dead set at ending up in one place.


Jay-Z offered Dwight a night with Beyonce? Only rule is he can't tell anyone it happened.

There's a future RealGM poll. Would you sign with the Nets if Jay-Z let you have one night with Beyonce under the condition you can't brag about it to your friends?


So...he gets to bang Beyonce and then HE gets paid millions of dollars?

No wonder he wants the Nets so badly.
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Re: Lakers - Rockets - Magic Talk trade 

Post#826 » by chubby_1_kenobi » Wed Jul 11, 2012 8:17 am

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chubby_1_kenobi wrote:Just tank in 2012, get a high pick in 2013 and sign someone good in 2014 when Hedo and Quentin's contract contract are off the books. Rebuild around a 26 year old all star Center + 2013 draft pick + 2014 FA. If that works out, it only takes them 2 years to be a playoff team again.
I believe the Magic owner had mentioned that they actually didn't want to rebuild after spending so much money on a new arena. Even if Houston package give them more time to rebuilds, that might not be what the Magic FO wanted.

So yeah, again, Lakers offer >>> Houston offer if they refuse to take Hedo and J-rich.


If the Magic are going to tank then why don't they just take whatever Houston has to offer? Getting Bynum would make it hard to tank properly. Let's say that the Magic was able to tank anyways and got the #1 pick, how long is that pick going to take before he becomes a star player? You are going to pay Bynum 18-23 mil a year from 2014-2018 while you wait for a 2013 draft pick to develop? By the time that draft pick is fully developed Bynum's contract may already be ending. A core of Bynum and a high lotto pick simply doesn't make sense. You can't hope the second best player to be a prospect that you hope would pan out while Bynum is paid a large sum of money and the team most likely in luxury tax territory. As for getting a FA in the 2014 offseason, many other teams will also try to do the same as many of the older star players will be available. The big 3 in Miami has an ETO, Kobe, Pau, Dirk, and Pierce's contract will end by then. There is going to be a huge scramble for those FAs. The problem? The younger stars like Griffin and Love are all locked up past 2014, so most likely you will only find a star over the age of 35 to help you. With what you purpose, it would be:

Bynum
High lotto pick
An over 30 FA

As the main pieces for the Magic to contend. That team is not likely going to go anywhere and the Magic will have no picks or prospects to upgrade their roster. Getting Bynum is better, but it's hardly a slamdunk offer over what other teams are willing to give.

Dwyane Wade, Anthony, James and Bosh made significant impact on their team by their 2nd year. If the Magic gets a top 3 pick in 2013, I don't see why this won't be the case.
A quick look at 2014 FA, Monta Ellis will be expiring, Carmelo Anthony can waive his ETO to sign a longer contract.
In addition, I've been hearing good things about Nicholson, the magic draft pick this year.
So in 2014, there's a probability that the Magic roster will consist of Bynum, Anthony/Ellis, Nicholson and their 2013 draft pick. That's a damn good core.

So that scenario combined with Magic management's desire to rebuild in a flash makes the Lakers offer that much better.

To me Houston offer is essentially an opportunity for the Magic to cherrypick the young players they'd like to keep long term because they can't possibly pay them all after their rookie contract expire. So far, I don't see any of Houston's young prospects who can potentially be better or even equal to Bynum in terms of impact. Do you not agree?
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Re: Lakers - Rockets - Magic Talk trade 

Post#827 » by boogie-reke » Wed Jul 11, 2012 8:29 am

The Houston deal is obviously the best bet Orlando has here.

If such a deal is on a table, why are they hesitating?
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Post#828 » by sweet_jesus » Wed Jul 11, 2012 8:29 am

I hope Morey doesn't gut the team while mortgaging the future for Bynum. He's not the elite corner stone you can build around like Howard. No matter what Bynum or Lakers fans think, he's not a franchise player, otherwise you wouldn't be upgrading.
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Re: Lakers - Rockets - Magic Talk trade 

Post#829 » by Jameslm18 » Wed Jul 11, 2012 8:30 am

Shaheen wrote:
Jameslm18 wrote:Shaheen just go away! You know nothing asides from the nets and there terrible trade offers


Thank You for all your insight. I appreciate it.


No problem, now take my advise and piss off
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Post#830 » by vincecarter4pres » Wed Jul 11, 2012 8:39 am

oaklandwarriors wrote:Is anyone really excited that this is ending today?

I would be except I fear it won't be and then will drag onto until at least January.
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Re: Lakers - Rockets - Magic Talk trade 

Post#831 » by Shaheen » Wed Jul 11, 2012 8:40 am

Jameslm18 wrote:
No problem, now take my advise and piss off


Learn how to spell advice and I'll consider it.
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Re: Lakers - Rockets - Magic Talk trade 

Post#832 » by vincecarter4pres » Wed Jul 11, 2012 8:41 am

boogie-reke wrote:The Houston deal is obviously the best bet Orlando has here.

If such a deal is on a table, why are they hesitating?

Probably because it's either not on the table or is much weaker then reported/assumed.
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Re: Lakers - Rockets - Magic Talk trade 

Post#833 » by Jameslm18 » Wed Jul 11, 2012 8:46 am

Shaheen wrote:
Jameslm18 wrote:
No problem, now take my advise and piss off


Learn how to spell advice and I'll consider it.

Can't wait for Dwight to be traded anywhere but the nets so you can **** off :)

Vincecarter - I'm not sure why hennigan is holding off, maybe he has other plans for Dwight that the media don't know about
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Re: Lakers - Rockets - Magic Talk trade 

Post#834 » by D12VCMagic » Wed Jul 11, 2012 8:59 am

oaklandwarriors wrote:Is anyone really excited that this is ending today? Houston, LA, Brooklyn, I can't work out a clear favourite. I had a similar feeling last year with Chris Paul and was devastated that he didn't land with the Warriors.


Even if he is traded today, the Dwightmare likely isn't over (unless he goes to Brooklyn). It just no longer becomes Orlando's problem. I could see Dwight and Fegan **** bricks if he is traded to Houston and trying to force their way out of there too.
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Post#835 » by Jameslm18 » Wed Jul 11, 2012 9:17 am

D12VCMagic wrote:
oaklandwarriors wrote:Is anyone really excited that this is ending today? Houston, LA, Brooklyn, I can't work out a clear favourite. I had a similar feeling last year with Chris Paul and was devastated that he didn't land with the Warriors.


Even if he is traded today, the Dwightmare likely isn't over (unless he goes to Brooklyn). It just no longer becomes Orlando's problem. I could see Dwight and Fegan **** bricks if he is traded to Houston and trying to force their way out of there too.

Dwight is going to make the biggest fool of himself if he does that! He will be worse then spreewell
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Re: Lakers - Rockets - Magic Talk trade 

Post#836 » by Biscuit » Wed Jul 11, 2012 9:27 am

Shaheen wrote:
Jameslm18 wrote:
No problem, now take my advise and piss off


Learn how to spell advice and I'll consider it.

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Re: Lakers - Rockets - Magic Talk trade 

Post#837 » by boogie-reke » Wed Jul 11, 2012 9:29 am

My wish is for Houston to trade for Dwight straight up.

I mean, sorry Rockets fans for having to sacrifice you - but that'll prolly mean we won't get another "super-team" in the works. Dwight make whichever team he signs for great in FA - but it won't be as good as the Lakers or Brooklyn can be if he joins either one right now.

Also, i'd like to see Dwight being forced to move by the Magic as he cries and moans with a sour face on saying "I don't want to". That would be epic.
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Post#838 » by Jameslm18 » Wed Jul 11, 2012 9:32 am

Biscuit wrote:
Shaheen wrote:
Jameslm18 wrote:
No problem, now take my advise and piss off


Learn how to spell advice and I'll consider it.

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Re: Lakers - Rockets - Magic Talk trade 

Post#839 » by NekiEcko » Wed Jul 11, 2012 9:35 am

Regrads of what happens today, the Lakers is one very lucky team to get good people with some crazy trades with the help of the Rockets. I got this feeling that Hawks may pull it out, because Magic will get back a very good PF/C in Horford, Harris or Teague, Zaza and some of the players that we got from the Nets.

But atleast this mess will be over soon.
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Re: Lakers - Rockets - Magic Talk trade 

Post#840 » by SCourGe OF GoD » Wed Jul 11, 2012 9:54 am

NekiEcko wrote:Regrads of what happens today, the Lakers is one very lucky team to get good people with some crazy trades with the help of the Rockets. I got this feeling that Hawks may pull it out, because Magic will get back a very good PF/C in Horford, Harris or Teague, Zaza and some of the players that we got from the Nets.

But atleast this mess will be over soon.


If ur gonna tank you want to do it right...Horford is too good and especially in the east that team will still be like a 6th seed or something. If they just take back Kevin Martins expiring deal and dump Turk,Jrich and add the Toronto pick and Dallas pick + a TJones and Lamb it will be a solid tank year and theyll end up with around the 4th pick or something like that
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