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Dwight deserves some of the blame, but the media, ESPN, twitter has magnified this whole ordeal even more. If there was no twitter and social network, everyone would have to rely on newspapers. Instead, you get up-to-date minute-by-minute tweets from the same reporters so following this story can be surreal.
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cdouglas wrote:What's up with all the hate?? In the long run isn't this game about winning? The guy wants to win a championship and the franchise hasn't done anything to show that their REALLY interested in a championship. If Riley can turn his franchise around I'm sure the Magic could've done the same. Nothing is promised in the NBA and I'm sure Howard's back surgery has made him more anxious to play for a franchise with a goal to win a championship. You can tell which franchises are SERIOUS about winning a championship and the Nets is one of them. I'm for Howard on this one because I would hate to see his career take a turn like McGrady's did.
Orlando had a terrible front office before Hennigan came on board. If anything, Dwight should now realize that Hennigan doesn't mess around. Sure it's not to Dwight's benefit now, but in the back of his mind he has to know that the new GM is boss.
Even with the terrible front office, they still tried making trades to appease Dwight. They didn't work, but they tried. So you can't say that they didn't do anything.
Dwight messed up by opting-in. This thread would not even exist if he did not do that. He did it, and now he has to live up to his contract. I'm tired of players demanding trades from the team. When teams make bad signings, they can't threaten other teams to take those players off their hands. People don't realize that, they are just caught up in what the players say. If it was only that easy to get rid of JRich, Turkoglu, Duhon, QRich, BBD contracts. They signed them, and have either have to keep them, or attempt to trade them. But like I said, Orlando can't demand that they go somewhere or to a specific destination.
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All of this could have been avoided if Dwight just wasn't a greedy bitch. All he had to do was just quietly play out his contract and exercise his right as a free agent, but no, not only did he want his endorsement bump and to play with his buddy, he also wanted them to have his bird rights too. Dwight thinks he's entitled to every single thing he wants, to every little penny and perk he can get. I hope his reputation is ruined forever and he realizes that the extra money was never worth the love of the masses. Chances are, he'll always think that he had the right to get everything he wanted without sacrificing anything and he's just a poor wittle victim. Either that or he'll just blame it on sky daddy working in mysterious ways.
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jzmagik wrote:jfs1000d wrote:How can he sue? There is no contractual obligation that says if he opted in he will get traded. That is against the rules.
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None of us know yet, but there were reports earlier this month that the Union was considering pursuing legal action on Dwight's behalf. We'll see soon enough. Obviously there must be something substantial we don't know yet if the Union were considering getting involved.
this, don't understand why people don't just do their research
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Jay10 wrote:AntwanBoldin wrote:You can't run w/ every rumour like its gospel then complain if it's wrong. They're feeding your appetite
Buchs and Stephen A. had Dwight leaving Orlando like 2 years ago
Stephen A. was nowhere to be found on ESPN today.
These reporters, beat writers, etc. hear things, they report it, leak it, if the situation changes doesn't mean they'd lied or they do not have any sources, just mean THE SITUATION CHANGED, everybody thought Dwight would be traded by now, so go figure
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Dr Mufasa wrote:Honestly though, Dwight is soooooooooooooo mad right now he's not going to be a Brooklyn Net with Deron. He's probably been planning this since the Decision. He'd get to be a superstar in Brooklyn, would have the perfect perimeter player to easily contend. He f*cked himself. The Opt In is the stuff of legends. It's one of the most inexplicably dumb things a player has done and his agent should've slapped him in the face after he did it.
All he had to do is wait until the end of his contract and sign with the nets outright, I do not feel sorry for him AT ALL. And he plays on my second favorite team.
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Nuggets_Talk wrote:Laker1 wrote:what a complete disaster. shameful on both sides really, just trade him for something already! just wipe your hands clean!
if dwight wasnt a huge bitch the magic could trade him to any of at least 20 teams!
but he is demanding a trade to one of the few teams that cannot put together a decent offer.
FU dwight.
Plus he wants the max money to leave
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ibraheim718 wrote:Here's the thing what promises did Otis or the owner make to him?
Now this is what we need a link to
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DIdn't Dwight fire his agent right before his decided to opt in? Because his agent was screaming at him to not opt in because he'd lose all his leverage? I could have sworn I remember reading and hearing that from Dwight himself in one of those interviews around the time of his opt in decision.
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cdouglas wrote:What's up with all the hate?? In the long run isn't this game about winning? The guy wants to win a championship and the franchise hasn't done anything to show that their REALLY interested in a championship. If Riley can turn his franchise around I'm sure the Magic could've done the same. Nothing is promised in the NBA and I'm sure Howard's back surgery has made him more anxious to play for a franchise with a goal to win a championship. You can tell which franchises are SERIOUS about winning a championship and the Nets is one of them. I'm for Howard on this one because I would hate to see his career take a turn like McGrady's did.
they havent done anything to show they they are interested in a championship?
The owner completely opened up the checkbook, in a small market, and spent money big time. And they did make the finals. Dwight played with much better teammates than McGrady ever had.
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So hilarious, it can't possibly be true.
Quite an ugly prescedent if he actually won too. The league would surely keep this in litigation the entire year he remains under contract.
Plus to really get what he wants he's have to have the Lopez deal rescinded as well based on the trade restriction....unless they found a team with cap space that really wanted Lopez under his new deal.
Quite an ugly prescedent if he actually won too. The league would surely keep this in litigation the entire year he remains under contract.
Plus to really get what he wants he's have to have the Lopez deal rescinded as well based on the trade restriction....unless they found a team with cap space that really wanted Lopez under his new deal.
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SOUL wrote:How come this isn't anywhere else on the web? Or am I blind?
go to http://www.orlandosentinel.com/sports/ and search through the archives, it's there about a month back
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Sothron wrote:DIdn't Dwight fire his agent right before his decided to opt in? Because his agent was screaming at him to not opt in because he'd lose all his leverage? I could have sworn I remember reading and hearing that from Dwight himself in one of those interviews around the time of his opt in decision.
Still with the same agent.
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betterdayz02 wrote:ibraheim718 wrote:Casketje wrote:I still don't get how this douchebag isn't getting more heat for what he's been doing the last year and a half.
It's not a crime to be indecisive.. y'all are making it out to seem like this guy is beating little kids.
Half that stuff being thrown around by the talking heads is probably not even true.
This isn't even close to the amount of hatred LeBron got and the worse thing he did was a show that resulted in 2 million to the boys and girls clubit shows how ridiculous some people are.
Lebrons Decision took 1 hour, total hours for the ESPN special about 2 hours - HOWARDS saga - Min 6 months and counting and he's not at the end of his contract.
Let's see
1. I don't want to honor my contract with current team
2. I want current team to trade me to team of my wishes
3. I want to STILL get a max contract while leaving
sounds fair to me
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jzmagik wrote:Bucher said that Dwight will be pursuing legal action against the Magic for broken promises and is looking to get his opt-in rescinded. Orlando is arguably doing as much damage to their own rep as Dwight is to his.
for the people asking for a link, he said it on ESPN SportCenter between 4pm and 5 pm(only remember because NFL Live was airing on ESPN) after saying the dwight to the nets deal was dead on ESPN2.
Where's he going to go? The Nets moved on. Is he going to sue them too?
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jzmagik wrote:jfs1000d wrote:How can he sue? There is no contractual obligation that says if he opted in he will get traded. That is against the rules.
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None of us know yet, but there were reports earlier this month that the Union was considering pursuing legal action on Dwight's behalf. We'll see soon enough. Obviously there must be something substantial we don't know yet if the Union were considering getting involved.
i didnt see any report about the Union considering legal action. When the whole "blackmail" thing initially came out, everyone was saying that nothing would happen and that the Union wasnt looking into it.
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BelgianMagic wrote:What did Orlando promise him?
The promise was probably that they were going to TRY and give him his wish IF such a trade wouldn't screw their plans for the future. And they did, they tried. Yesterday at the press conference, Rob Hennigan said they've had talks up untill yesterday but just didn't like what they saw. It's as simple as that. Reports said Hennigan said this to Dwight, that they've tried. If Dwight's agent now wants to sue them, go ahead Dan. But they won't win this.
And why did Dwight opt-in? Cause Otis Smith had an agreement with a team right before the deadline for a trade (Houston was rumored) but Dwight chickened out and opted-in in the hope Brooklyn/Orlando could find a deal good enough for Orlando.
That's why I don't understand the hate Hennigan got here yesterday. Why should he set back this franchise for years by taking on Lopez? Otis Smith probably would've pulled the trigger just for the sake of making a trade. While Hennigan made the right decision, he should make the deal that would give Orlando the best future, and that deal wasn't on the table yesterday.
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cdouglas wrote:What's up with all the hate?? In the long run isn't this game about winning? The guy wants to win a championship and the franchise hasn't done anything to show that their REALLY interested in a championship. If Riley can turn his franchise around I'm sure the Magic could've done the same. Nothing is promised in the NBA and I'm sure Howard's back surgery has made him more anxious to play for a franchise with a goal to win a championship. You can tell which franchises are SERIOUS about winning a championship and the Nets is one of them. I'm for Howard on this one because I would hate to see his career take a turn like McGrady's did.
They were just in the finals in 2009 right? - players need to stop expecting all of these teams to get these magical FA's to help them win a championship. Who could the Magic have signed that they didn't?
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Sofa King wrote:Dwight deserves some of the blame, but the media, ESPN, twitter has magnified this whole ordeal even more. If there was no twitter and social network, everyone would have to rely on newspapers. Instead, you get up-to-date minute-by-minute tweets from the same reporters so following this story can be surreal.
THIS, back in da day, most reports started as rumors, by the time newspaper printed it, they had the story verified. Now every one with a camera phone want to play reporter, everyone with a social media account, LIVES on these sites trying to break news.
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jonskilly wrote:I am seriously baffled how people are saying Orlando is at the wrong for this. First of all, have there been any confirmed reports that Orlando made any type of promise to Dwight? I've never seen one.
Why should Orlando trade Dwight for pennies on the dollar? Dwight has caused this entire situation where Orlando will not get a trade even close to the asking price. Just because Dwight demands to be traded, while he's under contract, doesn't mean the organization has to cater to him. Orlando is doing what is in their best interest for the short and long term. They've never been on the hot seat. They have plenty of time to make a decision on what to do with him. Rob Hennigan is not going to allow a player under contract to dictate where he should be traded.
Orlando will receive better trade offers before the deadline (or sooner) because the threat of going to NJ isn't there anymore. Orlando will not accept the same Brooklyn proposed trade before the deadline. Brook signing a max deal was icing on the cake.
The only people at fault for this is Dwight and his agent. Had Dwight not signed the opt-in agreement - and then go on to have a press conference telling the city of Orlando and all their fans how he made a bad decision and is happy to be in a Magic uni - he would be a member of the Brooklyn Nets right now.
Dwight needs to fire his agent, and then open his eyes. He has no idea how much he's ruined his image through this whole thing. It's really pathetic.
What? Dwight has an indecisive pain but only because Orlando is trying to leverage him out of his free agency.
He has had people in his ear from Orl making threats, begging forgiveness like a crazed ex. Do you know why Orl had a new team president this year? Because the last one, well over a year ago now, drunk dialed him at 1am, begging him to stay. Look it up. He has never given them any indication he was going to stick around past this year and when management brained him on national TV by telling the coach he was out at Dwight's request he decided that the extra yr he had given them was revoked. The problem is that Orlando can only trade one year of his services and frankly, that's not all that valuable. So they are attempting to trade his future years which they have no claim on. So of course they are going to get less. If they wanted 100 cents on the dollar they should have traded him years ago.
It's a failure in that Orlando is attempting to tread on his impending free agency that there is any real value at all.
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