yows wrote:LateRoundFlyer wrote:
The question you have to ask is: what parts change in order for a three-team deal to happen? No really, ask.
You guys say Bynum and maybe some fillers. But where do they go? ORL would still be presumably get the same package of picks and cap space as they would in a straight up deal with HOU, no? It makes absolutely no sense why they'd want us included unless they want Bynum back for themselves... but then why would HOU consent to do that trade if he is indeed their fallback option? Morey and Les would literally have nothing to show for themselves.
Let's be honest here: the whole three-team rumor was built on a flimsy notion already, and that was HOU banking on Bynum as a better bet to stay with them for the long haul. If they really are prepared to risk it all on Dwight though -- and their actions this week only intensified that belief -- what gives you all this idea that either they or ORL are going to take us along for the ride?
in my post i used the term, ruse, to bring consideration of a scenario where the published reports of proposed trade is not something that HOU intends on executing, maybe this is just posturing and leverage. it was a comment made in passing and jest because i don't know how HOU intends to leverage their risk, with the contracts they would be taking on if dwight does indeed end up a rental. If read correctly my comments poses this question.
and my reference to the 3 way is just hopeful thinking from a fan so please dont read too much into it but thanks for the critical analysis in response.
Don't worry. I'm not going out of my way to bash each and every person who has speculated on that. Believe me, I wouldn't be that bothered if what you said (and what others have said) came true. I'm pretty apathetic to both Howard and Bynum at this point, but does that mean I wouldn't feel some excitement in the future were we included in such a three-way deal? Of course not.
The main obstacle with your particular theory coming true, however, is just how much would HOU be willing to put in front of ORL just to yank back at the last minute? This is essentially what they'd be doing if it was only posturing. But over the past week, I've grown increasingly suspicious of any doublecross.
As I've said before, and you can disagree with me on this, but my understanding of Daryl Morey is that he is not one of the GMs in the West/Kupchak mold who plays his cards close to his vest. It would be an extremely unusual development, in light of his history, if any of this were misdirection, much less essentially his entire offer to Hennigan.
I suppose one could make a good argument that his job might be on the line, and he's willing to take big risks like this and use up his fellow executives' good faith. Prokhorov did this last year in the Melo sweepstakes after all. Of course, he's not really a GM, but what he did was essentially exploit Dolan and Ujiri enough to stall talks out and dramatically raise the cost of acquiring Anthony.
But if you look at HOU's moves this week, which have pretty much gutted their roster, it's hard to see how this points to such a similar move. They're preparing to amnesty Scola, they already traded Lowry and let Dragic watch, they've amassed quite a lot of cap space and draft picks. This would suggest their previous offer to ORL was not significant enough. In other words, who would invest this much risk into what would boil down to a grand prank?
I'm just not buying it here: the moves are extremely transparent, so that "reading too much into it" is pretty much impossible.
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