Luis Scola or Kris Humphries

snaltonj · Post #1 » by **snaltonj** » Fri Jul 13, 2012 1:12 pm

It looks like the Rockets have used the Amnesty clause on Luis Scola. Should we pursue him more than we are pursuing Kris Humphries?

ohara · Post #2 » by **ohara** » Fri Jul 13, 2012 1:26 pm

No. Hump first, Scola 2nd, Jamison 3rd. My order of preference.

hhvo · Post #3 » by **hhvo** » Fri Jul 13, 2012 1:29 pm

Salaries aside, I'll go with Hump. Younger and a beast on the board, we need that on the bobcats.

If this was the 2010-11 Scola, might be a different story.

countryboi · Post #4 » by **countryboi** » Fri Jul 13, 2012 1:49 pm

the rockets have 100 Power forwards and they use their amnesty clause to cut the best one....strange

Bassman · Post #5 » by **Bassman** » Fri Jul 13, 2012 1:52 pm

ohara wrote:No. Hump first, Scola 2nd, Jamison 3rd. My order of preference.

Ditto!

MPM · Post #6 » by **MPM** » Fri Jul 13, 2012 2:18 pm

Order of douchiness, most to least:

Hump, Scola, Jamison

Order of preference, most to least:

Hump, Scola, Jamison

"No one talks to the Hump, bro."

bobcats3wallace · Post #7 » by **bobcats3wallace** » Fri Jul 13, 2012 2:33 pm

countryboi wrote:the rockets have 100 Power forwards and they use their amnesty clause to cut the best one....strange

They have hundreds that are cheaper and a lot younger than Scola. Thus Scola is gone...can't entertain a Dwight trade with Scola's salary on the books.

My order would be Hump, Jamison, Scola. I just don't see Scola as a good fit on this team. Plus the only shot we have at him is if we put a waiver claim in, which would mean we would have him for 3 years at at least 10 million over that 3 years. Not a lot of money, he is definitely worth it, but I just don't like that 3 years. Can you trade guys you claim on amnesty? I guess he would be a tradeable asset, but I doubt you could get much for him. If we don't put in waiver claim, then he will surely sign with a contender.

MPM · Post #8 » by **MPM** » Fri Jul 13, 2012 3:52 pm

Sounds like Dallas is willing to throw a good bit of money at Scola. I wouldn't want either of these guys if it meant getting into a bidding war and overpaying. I guess I should have put a 'all salaries being the same' contingency on my vote above.

Post #9 » by **BigSlam** » Fri Jul 13, 2012 4:08 pm

I would rather Scola over Humphries, Brand or Jamison.

But $$$$ and length of contract would come into it.

BlackOutBuzz · Post #10 » by **BlackOutBuzz** » Fri Jul 13, 2012 8:50 pm

I'm on the Brand-wagon, hopefully we made a good bid since there's only one year left on his contract. Don't really want Hump since I think we'd have to offer a fourth year and/or grossly overpay at this point. I like Scola too, but he has three years left on his contract. I'd probably take Jamison over Scola, since he'd probably do a 2-year deal, though I think Scola is probably the better player at this point. Not really crazy about the idea of Haywood, however I remembered he had an interesting clause in his contract that could make him a valuable trade piece. Though I don't know if the Mavs got the benefit of it via amnesty:

http://probasketballtalk.nbcsports.com/ ... vs-reload/

bobcats3wallace · Post #11 » by **bobcats3wallace** » Fri Jul 13, 2012 8:55 pm

Keep in mind that the minimum bid for Scola is around 3.5 million PER for 3 years. I could easily see the winning bid being much closer to 5 or 6 million. I don't want Scola for that much, and I don't see how Scola really fits into Dallas' plans for that much either.

BTW, when does the 48 hour clock start ticking?

BlackOutBuzz · Post #12 » by **BlackOutBuzz** » Fri Jul 13, 2012 9:17 pm

bobcats3wallace wrote:BTW, when does the 48 hour clock start ticking?

My guess is as soon as they are waived. I don't think Scola has officially been amnestied yet though.

http://espn.go.com/dallas/nba/story/_/i ... ources-say

Mark Stein wrote:Elton Brand has been claimed off amnesty waivers by the Dallas Mavericks, according to sources close to the process.

****

marthafokker · Post #13 » by **marthafokker** » Fri Jul 13, 2012 10:32 pm

bobcats3wallace wrote:Keep in mind that the minimum bid for Scola is around 3.5 million PER for 3 years. I could easily see the winning bid being much closer to 5 or 6 million. I don't want Scola for that much, and I don't see how Scola really fits into Dallas' plans for that much either.

BTW, when does the 48 hour clock start ticking?

Hope your team gets Scola. It does not hurt to at least put in 3.5 mil bid. If you get him, that is cheaper for what he does.

TheKingofSting · Post #14 » by **TheKingofSting** » Fri Jul 13, 2012 11:00 pm

ohara wrote:No. Hump first, Scola 2nd, Jamison 3rd. My order of preference.

BobsBuddy · Post #15 » by **BobsBuddy** » Sat Jul 14, 2012 6:27 pm

Definitely like K Hump,but I think Brooklyn will find a way to keep him.
The already have spent.... 300 million on player salaries.... whats another 60 to an owner like the Terminator? If he lets him go..I bet two of our 1st round 2012/2013 protected draft picks go back to the nets. And Diop is amensitied.
Anyway we would have one hell of a lineup.
KW RS RWill
Hendo BG Carroll
MKG JT Dbrown
Khump TT DJW
Biz Mully(maybe pickup Heyward)

Eoghan · Post #16 » by **Eoghan** » Sat Jul 14, 2012 6:43 pm

I like Scola way more as a player but stylistically, Hump is probably a better fit.

Post #17 » by **BigSlam** » Sat Jul 14, 2012 8:36 pm

BrotherDave wrote:I like Scola way more as a player but stylistically, Hump is probably a better fit.

Really? I would think the opposite. We have pretty much zero post scoring and Scola would bring that in bunches.

Plus, I just really love the idea of Biz going up against Scola day after day in practice learning how to not be punked by offensive wizards like Scola/Jefferson/Duncan/Kaman etc while learning a few tricks himself on the offensive end.

I think that would be invaluable.

Eoghan · Post #18 » by **Eoghan** » Sat Jul 14, 2012 8:56 pm

BigSlam wrote:
BrotherDave wrote:I like Scola way more as a player but stylistically, Hump is probably a better fit.

Really? I would think the opposite. We have pretty much zero post scoring and Scola would bring that in bunches.

Plus, I just really love the idea of Biz going up against Scola day after day in practice learning how to not be punked by offensive wizards like Scola/Jefferson/Duncan/Kaman etc while learning a few tricks himself on the offensive end.

I think that would be invaluable.

Scola's a little too old and slow to run with this team I think. I doubt we run the press all the time but it definitely looks like we're gonna avoid the half court like the plague as much as possible and that's really where Scola shines. With Hump, you won't have to worry about getting him many touches for him to be effective and it looks like Kemba/Sessions and MKG are going to dominate the ball a lot. Scola would kind of be frozen out of the offense kind of like Diaw was b/c he's a big that is good to run ball movement through.

Really, I agree with you, I just don't think that's the team identity they're necessarily going for.

MKG14 · Post #19 » by **MKG14** » Sat Jul 14, 2012 8:58 pm

No team can avoid the halfcourt all the time. Teams that can't handle the halfcourt get killed in the playoffs. I know we're not going for the playoffs, but I don't know if I want to teach the guys that the halfcourt is bad or something.

Eoghan · Post #20 » by **Eoghan** » Sat Jul 14, 2012 9:03 pm

MKG14 wrote:No team can avoid the halfcourt all the time. Teams that can't handle the halfcourt get killed in the playoffs. I know we're not going for the playoffs, but I don't know if I want to teach the guys that the halfcourt is bad or something.

I'm not saying that. Remember when teams like Cleveland and Phoenix were trying to run with Shaq and he was basically ineffectual b/c 4/5 guys were built to run and 1 was limited to half-court only? Kind of like that.