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Re: Howard Thread Pt. III 

Post#461 » by B Mac » Sat Jul 14, 2012 9:29 pm

inkyonroad wrote:Just remember this, the Cavs have a lot first rounder picks stocked up at about 7 picks I think. They are legit threat to the favorite, Houston. If the rumored talks are materialized.



As a Cav fan I can concur. The Cavs have been stock piling a TON of picks and are actually really starting to build up a lot of young players as assets as well. I havent really thought about utilizing those assets and picks for trading for someone like Bynum, because frankly I never thought he would re-sign here, but his comments last week, along with Kyrie blowing up have really got me thinking.

Looks like we all just lost a lot of productivity for the next few days, huh? :)
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Re: Howard Thread Pt. III 

Post#462 » by inkyonroad » Sat Jul 14, 2012 9:31 pm

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inkyonroad wrote:Just remember this, the Cavs have a lot first rounder picks stocked up at about 7 picks I think. They are legit threat to the favorite, Houston. If the rumored talks are materialized.



As a Cav fan I can concur. The Cavs have been stock piling a TON of picks and are actually really starting to build up a lot of young players as assets as well. I havent really thought about utilizing those assets and picks for trading for someone like Bynum, because frankly I never thought he would re-sign here, but his comments last week, along with Kyrie blowing up have really got me thinking.

Looks like we all just lost a lot of productivity for the next few days, huh? :)


Lol, yeah. It will be a reality if Dan Gilbert is more willing with the assets to get Bynum because he has a lot assets to offer just like the Houston do.
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Re: Howard Thread Pt. III 

Post#463 » by inkyonroad » Sat Jul 14, 2012 9:33 pm

I don't think Houston would obtain all bad contracts from the Magic, but it is probably the way they will win the Howard trade.
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Re: Howard Thread Pt. III 

Post#464 » by Sofa King » Sat Jul 14, 2012 9:33 pm

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inkyonroad wrote:Just remember this, the Cavs have a lot first rounder picks stocked up at about 7 picks I think. They are legit threat to the favorite, Houston. If the rumored talks are materialized.



As a Cav fan I can concur. The Cavs have been stock piling a TON of picks and are actually really starting to build up a lot of young players as assets as well. I havent really thought about utilizing those assets and picks for trading for someone like Bynum, because frankly I never thought he would re-sign here, but his comments last week, along with Kyrie blowing up have really got me thinking.

Looks like we all just lost a lot of productivity for the next few days, huh? :)


Bynum would play anywhere as long as he gets the max. Bynum does not get any endorsement deals. So where ever he can get the most out of his contract, he should be okay to resign. Having Kyrie and Bynum together would be great to watch and might be able to compete against the Heat.

The more size Cavs get in return like Big Baby the better. Miami is still very thin up front.
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Re: Howard Thread Pt. III 

Post#465 » by Jetset » Sat Jul 14, 2012 9:34 pm

Who would've ever seen the day where the most vocal owner behind the CP3 veto would potentially help LA get Howard.
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Re: Howard Thread Pt. III 

Post#466 » by Jetset » Sat Jul 14, 2012 9:35 pm

inkyonroad wrote:I don't think Houston would obtain all bad contracts from the Magic, but it is probably the way they will win the Howard trade.


According to Aldridge, Houston only plans on taking one bad contract off their books and only one 1st rounder from this past draft to Orlando.

It can be beaten.
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Re: Howard Thread Pt. III 

Post#467 » by alaskan34pac34 » Sat Jul 14, 2012 9:37 pm

The best deal I could come up with...

Lakers Get
Dwight Howard
Jason Richardson

Cavs Get
Andrew Bynum
Glen Davis
Chris Duhon
Quentin Richardson

Magic Get
Tristian Thompson
Anderson Varejao
Josh Mcroberts
Daniel Gibson
Christian Eyenga
Luke Walton
Multiple Draft Picks


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Re: Howard Thread Pt. III 

Post#468 » by Bandwagon1 » Sat Jul 14, 2012 9:37 pm

So how long will this crap take?
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Re: Howard Thread Pt. III 

Post#469 » by inkyonroad » Sat Jul 14, 2012 9:38 pm

destro wrote:
inkyonroad wrote:I don't think Houston would obtain all bad contracts from the Magic, but it is probably the way they will win the Howard trade.


According to Aldridge, Houston only plans on taking one bad contract off their books and only one 1st rounder from this past draft to Orlando.

It can be beaten.


I wonder what kind assets will Dan Gilbert be willing to give up to get Bynum. I think he should try to do anything just like Houston is because not many stars would want to resign in Cleveland.
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Re: Howard Thread Pt. III 

Post#470 » by jigga_man » Sat Jul 14, 2012 9:39 pm

destro wrote:Who would've ever seen the day where the most vocal owner behind the CP3 veto would potentially help LA get Howard.


Well, he wasn't getting anything out of the cp3 deal, now he can get an young all star center to pair up with Irving.
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Re: Howard Thread Pt. III 

Post#471 » by inkyonroad » Sat Jul 14, 2012 9:40 pm

I don't know about you guys, but I don't mind get pricy Anderson Varejao to us. He can be a pesky defender to back up the bigs. A good role player.
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Re: Howard Thread Pt. III 

Post#472 » by 77CSUN77 » Sat Jul 14, 2012 9:41 pm

inkyonroad wrote:I don't know about you guys, but I don't mind get pricy Anderson Varejao to us. He can be a pesky defender to back up the bigs. A good role player.


then we have to give up pau as well
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Re: Howard Thread Pt. III 

Post#473 » by alaskan34pac34 » Sat Jul 14, 2012 9:42 pm

inkyonroad wrote:I don't know about you guys, but I don't mind get pricy Anderson Varejao to us. He can be a pesky defender to back up the bigs. A good role player.


We are already getting Dwight lets not push our luck and get this one vetoed too.
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Re: Howard Thread Pt. III 

Post#474 » by inkyonroad » Sat Jul 14, 2012 9:42 pm

77CSUN77 wrote:
inkyonroad wrote:I don't know about you guys, but I don't mind get pricy Anderson Varejao to us. He can be a pesky defender to back up the bigs. A good role player.


then we have to give up pau as well

true, that is why it is not going to happen
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Re: Howard Thread Pt. III 

Post#475 » by Sofa King » Sat Jul 14, 2012 9:43 pm

Bandwagon1 wrote:So how long will this crap take?

If I was Hennigan, I go back to Houston and see if they can counter. Hopefully something gets done in a couple of days.

Houston and Cleveland have a lot of picks. I wonder if Cleveland has better lottery picks to offer.

Seeing a Kyrie, Bynum pair intrigues me. Will definitely be a playoff contender. I'm starting to become a Cavs fan. :lol:
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Re: Howard Thread Pt. III 

Post#476 » by inkyonroad » Sat Jul 14, 2012 9:45 pm

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Bandwagon1 wrote:So how long will this crap take?

If I was Hennigan, I go back to Houston and see if they can counter. Hopefully something gets done in a couple of days.

Houston and Cleveland have a lot of picks. I wonder if Cleveland has better lottery picks to offer.

Seeing a Kyrie, Bynum pair intrigues me. Will definitely be a playoff contender. I'm starting to become a Cavs fan. :lol:

2013 first round draft pick from Miami
Miami's own 2013 1st round draft pick to Cleveland (top-10 protected in the 2013 Draft, top-10 protected in 2014, and unprotected in the 2015 Draft.) [Cleveland - Miami, 7/9/2010]

2013 first round draft pick from Sacramento
Sacramento's own 2013 first round draft pick to Cleveland (top-13 protected in 2013, top-12 protected in 2014, top-10 protected in 2015, top-10 protected in 2016 and top-10 protected in the 2017 Draft) If Cleveland has not received a first round pick from Sacramento by 2017, then Sacramento shall convey their own 2017 2nd round draft pick to Cleveland provided it is within the top-55 picks. If it is not, then Sacramento's obligation to Cleveland shall be extinguished. (Cleveland-Sacramento, 6/30/2011)

2013 first round draft pick from L.A. Lakers
Cleveland has the right to swap the least favorable of their own 2013 1st round pick, Miami's own 2013 1st round pick (top-10 protected) and Sacramento's own 2013 1st round pick (top-13 protected) with the L.A. Lakers own 2013 first round pick (top-14 protected). If the L.A. Lakers own 2013 first round pick is #1-#14, then the L.A. Lakers' obligation to Cleveland shall be extinguished. [Cleveland-L.A. Lakers, 3/15/2012]

2013 second round draft pick from Orlando
Orlando's own 2013 2nd round pick to Cleveland. [Cleveland - Orlando, 6/23/2011]

2014 second round draft pick from Orlando
Orlando's own 2014 2nd round pick to Cleveland. [Cleveland - Orlando, 6/23/2011]

2015 first round draft pick from Miami
Miami's own 1st round draft pick to Cleveland in the "First Allowable Draft" (top 10 protected until the 2017 draft at which it will be unprotected in the 2017 draft). The First Allowable draft shall be the draft that occurs two years following the year in which Miami satisfies its first obligation to convey a future first round draft pick to the Cleveland Cavaliers. [Cleveland - Miami, 7/9/2010]



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The picks they have and they don't owe anybody their own

It is what Houston have


2013 first round draft pick from Dallas
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2013 first round draft pick from Toronto
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Re: Howard Thread Pt. III 

Post#477 » by inkyonroad » Sat Jul 14, 2012 9:45 pm

Houston owes.

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2014 second round draft pick to Milwaukee
Houston own 2nd round pick to Milwaukee in the "First Allowable Draft". The First Allowable draft shall be the draft that occurs one year following the year in which Houston satisfies its existing obligation to convey a future second round draft pick to the Atlanta Hawks (Top-40 protected in the 2013 Draft, top-40 protected in 2014, top-40 protected in 2015 and unprotected in the 2016 Draft) and shall occur no later than the 2017 Draft. [Houston-Milwaukee, 6/27/2012]
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Re: Howard Thread Pt. III 

Post#478 » by Sofa King » Sat Jul 14, 2012 9:46 pm

77CSUN77 wrote:
inkyonroad wrote:I don't know about you guys, but I don't mind get pricy Anderson Varejao to us. He can be a pesky defender to back up the bigs. A good role player.


then we have to give up pau as well


Not necessarily. We can trade MWP for Varejao. However, MWP will have a 15% trade kicker.
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Re: Howard Thread Pt. III 

Post#479 » by 77CSUN77 » Sat Jul 14, 2012 9:48 pm

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77CSUN77 wrote:
inkyonroad wrote:I don't know about you guys, but I don't mind get pricy Anderson Varejao to us. He can be a pesky defender to back up the bigs. A good role player.


then we have to give up pau as well


Not necessarily. We can trade MWP for Varejao. However, MWP will have a 15% trade kicker.


Dude that's being too greedy, there is no way cavs would trade Varejao for MWP. As far as I know, every NBA owners view MWP as garbage piece
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Re: Howard Thread Pt. III 

Post#480 » by Wavy Q » Sat Jul 14, 2012 9:48 pm

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