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Re: Rockets Sign Lin To Larger Offer Sheet 

Post#61 » by frank1982 » Sun Jul 15, 2012 4:16 am

jamrock1975 wrote:knicks fan here not trolling. Two things I wanted to clear up with you guys. The first thing is that Houston will have to pay Jeremy LIn $14.9M in year three because that is the offer sheet he signed and they can pull it, but it would prevent future free agents from trying to sign with them, it would be almost bush league if they did. The second thing is that Houston hasn't provided the Knicks with the offer sheet that Jeremy allegedly signed so they can decide if they want to match or not. The process is normally a team signs a restricted free agent and the team that has that restricted free agent has up to three days to match. What is very fishy in this scenario is that even though Lin allegedly sign the offer sheet Houston has presented the offer sheet. So my question is did Jeremy Lin actually sign an offer sheet? Houston appears to be playing games because if Jeremy signed the offer sheet on Friday why has Houston not sent the offer sheet to New York. There appears to be some type of trickery going on here.


Knicks are being little cry babies about it....http://blog.chron.com/ultimaterockets/2 ... fer-sheet/

Also Rockets have the $25 million split evenly over 3 years as far as cap hit so it isnt a poison pill for us....

looks like he is coming here and NYK just traded for felton back....http://blog.chron.com/ultimaterockets/2 ... fer-sheet/
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Post#62 » by jamrock1975 » Sun Jul 15, 2012 4:31 am

so there are two conflicting stories out there in regards to whether the knicks received the offer sheet or not, but if you want to believe that one, then okay that's fine. I will believe that Houston hasn't provided the offer sheet. As far as the $14.9M in year three. That is what has been reported by every nba writer, so you can't spread it out for Houston and then spike it up for New York it doesn't work that way. The offer sheet is basically to match whatever the team trying to sign your free agent is offering that's why it's called a match. In regards to the Felton trade I actually think there maybe a science to the madness of Grunwald. Is it possible that NY is trying to screw Houston over by getting the last remaining point guard in free agency and then turn around and match jeremy lin leaving Houston scrambling, The more I think about it the more I think that's what is going on here because New York has never cared about paying Luxury tax never. I think they sign Jeremy lin and felton and play kidd more at the two guard spot.
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Re: Rockets Sign Lin To Larger Offer Sheet 

Post#63 » by Guy986 » Sun Jul 15, 2012 4:46 am

jamrock1975 wrote:so there are two conflicting stories out there in regards to whether the knicks received the offer sheet or not, but if you want to believe that one, then okay that's fine. I will believe that Houston hasn't provided the offer sheet. As far as the $14.9M in year three. That is what has been reported by every nba writer, so you can't spread it out for Houston and then spike it up for New York it doesn't work that way. The offer sheet is basically to match whatever the team trying to sign your free agent is offering that's why it's called a match. In regards to the Felton trade I actually think there maybe a science to the madness of Grunwald. Is it possible that NY is trying to screw Houston over by getting the last remaining point guard in free agency and then turn around and match jeremy lin leaving Houston scrambling, The more I think about it the more I think that's what is going on here because New York has never cared about paying Luxury tax never. I think they sign Jeremy lin and felton and play kidd more at the two guard spot.


Yes you can. Its called the arenas rule. For ny its 5 5 15, for us lins contract will be 8 8 9.
Its been reported everywhere. look it up.

Also after felton(who was never on our radar) we can sign aaron brooks. Go sign him too if nys plan is to hog all the pg. :)
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Post#64 » by inquisitive » Sun Jul 15, 2012 5:07 am

Guy986 wrote:
jamrock1975 wrote:so there are two conflicting stories out there in regards to whether the knicks received the offer sheet or not, but if you want to believe that one, then okay that's fine. I will believe that Houston hasn't provided the offer sheet. As far as the $14.9M in year three. That is what has been reported by every nba writer, so you can't spread it out for Houston and then spike it up for New York it doesn't work that way. The offer sheet is basically to match whatever the team trying to sign your free agent is offering that's why it's called a match. In regards to the Felton trade I actually think there maybe a science to the madness of Grunwald. Is it possible that NY is trying to screw Houston over by getting the last remaining point guard in free agency and then turn around and match jeremy lin leaving Houston scrambling, The more I think about it the more I think that's what is going on here because New York has never cared about paying Luxury tax never. I think they sign Jeremy lin and felton and play kidd more at the two guard spot.


Yes you can. Its called the arenas rule. For ny its 5 5 15, for us lins contract will be 8 8 9.
Its been reported everywhere. look it up.

Also after felton(who was never on our radar) we can sign aaron brooks. Go sign him too if nys plan is to hog all the pg. :)


i wouldn't mind having aaron too as a backup, but he might get more $ elsewhere.
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Re: Rockets Sign Lin To Larger Offer Sheet 

Post#65 » by Zubby » Sun Jul 15, 2012 5:32 am

jamrock1975 wrote: Is it possible that NY is trying to screw Houston over by getting the last remaining point guard in free agency and then turn around and match jeremy lin leaving Houston scrambling,

Ask yourself this... why the f*ck would NY care about screwing over Houston? Not like they gonna meet the Rockets in the finals anytime soon.

jamrock1975 wrote:The more I think about it the more I think that's what is going on here because New York has never cared about paying Luxury tax never. I think they sign Jeremy lin and felton and play kidd more at the two guard spot.

Well the new CBA tax penalties are stepper... maybe they learned from their decade long mistakes of overpaying.


Anyway hope NY matches, hope Dwight stays in ORL i've be converted to the tank wagon, and i can't handle all this drama.


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Post#66 » by zapatasblood » Sun Jul 15, 2012 6:11 am

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jamrock1975 wrote: Is it possible that NY is trying to screw Houston over by getting the last remaining point guard in free agency and then turn around and match jeremy lin leaving Houston scrambling,

Ask yourself this... why the f*ck would NY care about screwing over Houston? Not like they gonna meet the Rockets in the finals anytime soon.

jamrock1975 wrote:The more I think about it the more I think that's what is going on here because New York has never cared about paying Luxury tax never. I think they sign Jeremy lin and felton and play kidd more at the two guard spot.

Well the new CBA tax penalties are stepper... maybe they learned from their decade long mistakes of overpaying.


Anyway hope NY matches, hope Dwight stays in ORL i've be converted to the tank wagon, and i can't handle all this drama.


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Post#67 » by adrenaLINe » Sun Jul 15, 2012 6:17 am

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rocketsballin wrote:thats not that bad at all. 8mil per for a starting pg that could improve? cmon yall, put the crack pipe down, sober up and get back to the real world world 7footers get underserved max deals. this aint a bad contract.

You overreach/overpay for potential in the draft not free agency.



yes thats real smart... lets overpay for a guy who has never played a NBA game

versus a guy who has played at least 25 NBA games...

of course you are going to say that sample is too small... to accurately gauge the talent of Lin

but you are willing to pay for talent that has never played even 1 NBA game...

no your opinion isnt biased
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Post#68 » by adrenaLINe » Sun Jul 15, 2012 6:21 am

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adrenaLINe wrote:what is this... Clutchfans seem to love this deal...

where as here... most of you 12 posters hate the deal..

bottom line this team is lottery bound... if Lin turns out to be a bust... the next 3 years...

then your Tanking will be on track...

and it wont matter anyways because Rox will suck for the next 5 years anyways...

if Lin turns out to be "true" All star material... then his play alone will make your games bearable to watch...

as for Dwight... slow footed Yao use to make Dwight his Biatch when they matched up...

thats because Dwight is useless when he cant move his man...


67% of clutchfans member dont want lin.
http://bbs.clutchfans.net/showthread.ph ... 54&page=64


some of you guys also dont know how to read...

the question is

Do you want Lin's contract matched????.....

69% said no...

meaning they dont want NY to match
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Post#69 » by zapatasblood » Sun Jul 15, 2012 6:23 am

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zapatasblood wrote:
rocketsballin wrote:thats not that bad at all. 8mil per for a starting pg that could improve? cmon yall, put the crack pipe down, sober up and get back to the real world world 7footers get underserved max deals. this aint a bad contract.

You overreach/overpay for potential in the draft not free agency.



yes thats real smart... lets overpay for a guy who has never played a NBA game

versus a guy who has played at least 25 NBA games...

of course you are going to say that sample is too small... to accurately gauge the talent of Lin

but you are willing to pay for talent that has never played even 1 NBA game...

no your opinion isnt biased

Well rookie contract are pretty much set in stone, so? :confused:
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Post#70 » by adrenaLINe » Sun Jul 15, 2012 6:29 am

well Lin is technically getting paid only 5 million a year for the first 2 years...

in 3 years time if Lin isnt playing like a 14 million dollar player then you can complain then...


btw

you are right

rookies get overpaid obscene amounts of money especially being unproven NBA talent...
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Post#71 » by zapatasblood » Sun Jul 15, 2012 6:35 am

adrenaLINe wrote:well Lin is technically getting paid only 5 million a year for the first 2 years...

in 3 years time if Lin isnt playing like a 14 million dollar player then you can complain then...


btw

you are right

rookies get overpaid obscene amounts of money especially being unproven NBA talent...

I can complain now since it is 8 8 9 for us. No matter how you look at is the Rockets overpaid for a unproven talent.
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Post#72 » by adrenaLINe » Sun Jul 15, 2012 6:42 am

zapatasblood wrote:
adrenaLINe wrote:well Lin is technically getting paid only 5 million a year for the first 2 years...

in 3 years time if Lin isnt playing like a 14 million dollar player then you can complain then...


btw

you are right

rookies get overpaid obscene amounts of money especially being unproven NBA talent...

I can complain now since it is 8 8 9 for us. No matter how you look at is the Rockets overpaid for a unproven talent.



what ever you say buddy... that "8 mil" only applies to the "salary cap" which you will be well under even Rox are lucky enough to get all the players you want like Asik, Howard etc etc etc...

bottom line you are still actually only paying him 5 million a year.. the first 2 years...
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Post#73 » by adrenaLINe » Sun Jul 15, 2012 6:57 am

this is what you get with Lin...

keep in mind this is in Toronto.. and the opposing team Fans...

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Post#74 » by Kal El » Sun Jul 15, 2012 7:40 am

adrenaLINe wrote:
what ever you say buddy... that "8 mil" only applies to the "salary cap" which you will be well under even Rox are lucky enough to get all the players you want like Asik, Howard etc etc etc...

bottom line you are still actually only paying him 5 million a year.. the first 2 years...


What he was trying to tell you was that it will be $8 million in the 1st year not $5 million. For the Rockets, Jeremy Lin cap hit will be 8/8/9 in 3 years. For New York the hit would have been 5/5/15. The Arenas Rule as Guy986 previously mentioned
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Post#75 » by zapatasblood » Sun Jul 15, 2012 7:43 am

LOLZ fans is what we really want not a winning team but those fans.

I have no problem with Lin just the contract.
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Post#76 » by kam_soluusar » Sun Jul 15, 2012 7:55 am

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Post#77 » by TMACFORMVP » Sun Jul 15, 2012 7:57 am

I'd have preferred Dragic or Lowry, certainly. But I wouldn't be opposed to Lin if the Knicks don't match (still think there's a decent possibility that they do); because I am more in line with thinking that rocketsballin had, that the cap hit isn't too great for a PG that had a nice stretch of games, is young, and has some potential. That's almost market value (heck, Dragic only had a week or two more than him), let alone the other factors money wise.
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Post#78 » by kam_soluusar » Sun Jul 15, 2012 8:16 am

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Post#79 » by adrenaLINe » Sun Jul 15, 2012 2:07 pm

fair enough... you guys can compare him to players making 8 million a year... next year

you guys lost Goran and Lowry when the offer sheet was 5, 5 and 9 to Lin

dont like the contract overpaid?...

you were dumping half your contracts this year looking to go lottery anyways

if NY dosent match... Lin is going to be the face of the Rox for years to come...

in a perfect world you base a players performance on pure meritocracy

but being a Rox fan... I dont have to tell you what Yao Ming brought to the organization

owner, players, and fans....

to basketball purest might not like it... but in the end its what fills the stands...
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Post#80 » by king billing » Sun Jul 15, 2012 2:56 pm

nbaintel1 wrote:The Rockets are trolling the Knicks, Bulls, Magic, Nets, Lakers, PFs. Hell, the Rockets are trolling the entire NBA.


Morey is def trolling the Knicks. Big time.

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