*Felton traded to the Knicks. Knicks not matching Lin?

No35 · Post #1841 » by **No35** » Sun Jul 15, 2012 5:50 am

NYKat wrote:He said felton downgrades our chances at winning which is not possible if he played better than Lin in NY.

Have you seen Felton after he left NY?

Kooz · Post #1842 » by **Kooz** » Sun Jul 15, 2012 5:51 am

Marc J. Spears is on WFAN right now.

http://newyork.cbslocal.com/category/sp ... isten-live

ORANGEandBLUE · Post #1843 » by **ORANGEandBLUE** » Sun Jul 15, 2012 5:51 am

DocZaius wrote:
CoolKids wrote:I want to match Lin but I dont think the difference between Lin and Felton is as large as this board thinks.

Did you even watch Linsanity at it's peak??

Yeah, Felton never took over games the way Lin did in his first 10 games. Felton just got hot from outside and hit a lot of dumb shots.

CoolKids · Post #1844 » by **CoolKids** » Sun Jul 15, 2012 5:51 am

Knicks80_20 wrote:
CoolKids wrote:I want to match Lin but I dont think the difference between Lin and Felton is as large as this board thinks.

Because in your eyes Lin's a poor-court-vision-chucker with motivational/attitude issues who also happens to be the fattest guard in the league?

Well considering Felton only put up more shots per game then lin once in his career
(with the knicks in 38 mpg) what does that make Lin? :-?

Motivation shouldnt be an issue considering he was ecstactic to play here and still wants to come back after we shipped him off.

Sky_Knicks · Post #1845 » by **Sky_Knicks** » Sun Jul 15, 2012 5:51 am

QueenzAllDay wrote:Felton wants to be here... so lets go to war Raymond....

Why do people keep implying Lin doesn't want to be here ? What is this nonsense? ...

ibraheim718 · Post #1846 » by **ibraheim718** » Sun Jul 15, 2012 5:51 am

NYKat wrote:
Potential is not part of the equation, we are in win now mode.

He said felton downgrades our chances at winning which is not possible if he played better than Lin in NY.

You're missing the point... he proved he can be that player. And for us to WIN NOW we needed him to be that player or find someone who can of which there are only two of.

Sprewell4Three · Post #1847 » by **Sprewell4Three** » Sun Jul 15, 2012 5:51 am

NYK210 wrote:If we dont match cause Woodson is not a fan of Lin I want this clowns head on a plate

The finances is a killer.

Kidknick! · Post #1848 » by **Kidknick!** » Sun Jul 15, 2012 5:51 am

Enough with the goddamn "Lin brings in outside money and raises stock prices in MSG" nonsense. How the hell does any of that translate into the operation of running a NBA team and having FINANCIAL flexibility in the face of a massive luxury tax related DIRECTLY to basketball operations? I would like him back but the money is CRAZY...

Fury · Post #1849 » by **Fury** » Sun Jul 15, 2012 5:52 am

CoolKids wrote:
Knicks80_20 wrote:
CoolKids wrote:I want to match Lin but I dont think the difference between Lin and Felton is as large as this board thinks.

Because in your eyes Lin's a poor-court-vision-chucker with motivational/attitude issues who also happens to be the fattest guard in the league?

Well considering Felton only put up more shots per game then lin once in his career
(with the knicks in 38 mpg) what does that make Lin? Motivation shouldnt be an issue considering he was ecstactic to play here and still wants to come back after we shipped him off.

Felton put up shots with Amar'e and Gallo on his team. Lin put up shots with Jeffries and Chandler in the lineup? You're being dense.

ibraheim718 · Post #1850 » by **ibraheim718** » Sun Jul 15, 2012 5:52 am

Kooz wrote:Marc J. Spears is on WFAN right now.

http://newyork.cbslocal.com/category/sp ... isten-live

Don't listen to that dude.. he always sounds tired and is always pessimistically slanted.

AmazingJason · Post #1851 » by **AmazingJason** » Sun Jul 15, 2012 5:52 am

Why isn't anyone from the Knicks denying these reports?

Fury · Post #1852 » by **Fury** » Sun Jul 15, 2012 5:53 am

lol @ Felton wanting to come here. WE'RE THE ONLY DUMBASS FRANCHISE TO EVEN TALK TO HIM

NYK210 · Post #1853 » by **NYK210** » Sun Jul 15, 2012 5:53 am

Kooz wrote:Marc J. Spears is on WFAN right now.

http://newyork.cbslocal.com/category/sp ... isten-live

whats he saying?

mhi · Post #1854 » by **mhi** » Sun Jul 15, 2012 5:53 am

Da_Mane_Man wrote:
mhi wrote:Even the mighty Lakers who just signed a ridiculous TV deal are trying to shed salary for the new CBA.

If Lin isn't matched, its gonna be because of the finances nothing else.

Not to spite fans, not because NYK doesn't wanna win, not because the other guys are jealus, not because of the way he acts, etc...

Its gonna be because of the money.

let me ask you this then, do you think the knicks were mentally prepared during the off-season to match an offer like the first one lin got or the second one?

cause, to me, it was a big surprise that lin's first offer was so low. i was expecting something a lot higher, as i'm sure the knicks organization was, too.

now, if there were reports saying that we'd match anything up to a billion dollars for Lin, prior to free agency opening up, don't you think they were prepared for the luxury tax ramifications? this second offer is more what we expected in the first place anyway.

That report was obviously media type exagerration said without any knowledge of the Knicks's financial affairs.

A Billion dollars ? Are you **** kidding me ?

And the first offer was high in itself, any NBA scout right now will tell you that Lin is no worth that money for what he brings to the basketball court.

I can't speak offcourse for what he brings into an organization in terms of off the court revenue.

ibraheim718 · Post #1855 » by **ibraheim718** » Sun Jul 15, 2012 5:53 am

Kidknick! wrote:Enough with the goddamn "Lin brings in outside money and raises stock prices in MSG" nonsense. How the hell does any of that translate into the operation of running a NBA team and having FINANCIAL flexibility in the face of a massive luxury tax related DIRECTLY to basketball operations? I would like him back but the money is CRAZY...

The financial flexibility has been thrown out the door a long time ago.

Knicks80_20 · Post #1856 » by **Knicks80_20** » Sun Jul 15, 2012 5:53 am

Sky_Knicks wrote:
QueenzAllDay wrote:Felton wants to be here... so lets go to war Raymond....

Why do people keep implying Lin doesn't want to be here ? What is this nonsense? ...

Isola and the tabloids are saying it, so we have no choice but to take them at their word.

NYKat · Post #1857 » by **NYKat** » Sun Jul 15, 2012 5:53 am

ORANGEandBLUE wrote:
NYKat wrote:
I like Lin and all that, but seriously f*ck him if he gets greedy, which is what the Knicks are probably thinking too, they will in depths of salaty cap hell that have never been seen before according to this article....http://hangtime.blogs.nba.com/2012/07/1 ... n-trade/...

LIN IS NOT IRREPLACEABLE

Again though, the other signings suggest to me that Dolan is not penny-pinching here. And the idea of not matching out of spite is too stupid to deserve a response.

15 million is whole 'nother level tax, dude, you can't compare Felton and Novak getting 3-4 mil to lin getting 15 mil on top of the other money...

no comparison

Spite, very well could have ALOT to do with it, if houston gives this offer from the door, the knicks probably match outright, it's they way they are getting played that's pissing them off, they're getting f*cked over and don't need to be, Lin ain't irreplaceable

21shumpst · Post #1858 » by **21shumpst** » Sun Jul 15, 2012 5:54 am

Fury wrote:lol @ Felton wanting to come here. WE'RE THE ONLY DUMBASS FRANCHISE TO EVEN TALK TO HIM

This^^^^

unabashedFan · Post #1859 » by **unabashedFan** » Sun Jul 15, 2012 5:54 am

Toney Douglas wants the Knicks to match Lin. He doesn't want this guy following him around the NBA taking his job away. LOL.

Who would have known the one player Lin will still be teammates with is Toney.

QueenzAllDay · Post #1860 » by **QueenzAllDay** » Sun Jul 15, 2012 5:54 am

Sky_Knicks wrote:
QueenzAllDay wrote:Felton wants to be here... so lets go to war Raymond....

Why do people keep implying Lin doesn't want to be here ? What is this nonsense? ...

Never implied anything. Just saying it's glad to be a team that players want to be in. Especially after the LeBron thing I myself started noticing us being used as leverage.

We lose Jeremy? Let it be. Loved him but we gotta move on if he is in Houston. It's time to start getting used to Raymond and hope Kidd can help Felton become a better player here.

LETS GO RAYMOND!