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Re: *Felton traded to the Knicks. Knicks not matching Lin? 

Post#2241 » by bklynstoops » Sun Jul 15, 2012 12:20 pm

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BigE86 wrote:Houston might need Lin dollars, but the Knicks really don't. And we certainly don't need shytheads that try to screw over the team.


lol. you mean like holding the Nets as a possible destination so Denver can get a better deal out of NY in a trade? So, were you one of those guys that wanted Melo to walk into FA so he could sign with us for less money?

everyone wants to get paid. lol at the idea that Felton would turn down guaranteed 5M if he were in the position to do so.

at the end of the day, what I care about is whether we're better with Lin. I say we are.


Whether the Nets were a possible destination for Melo is really speculation. You can tell by Melo's "who?" reaction that the Nets weren't his priority.

What we do know is that there was an offer for Lin from Houston. Then we know that offer was changed conveniently after Camby and Kidd became official on Thursday.

At the end of the day our starting line up was worse with Lin so I'm not sure where you get the notion that we're better with him. That seven game winning streak didn't hold a candle to the month of April when Woody took over and Melo carried the team on his back with his Eastern Conference Player of the Month performance. (Which, if you remember, was when Lin was out.)


keep spinning it in your head. we looked great with Melo and Lin under Woodson. A lot better than we're going to look with Felton.
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Post#2242 » by MKCATL » Sun Jul 15, 2012 12:22 pm

This has to be that they aren't sold on Jlin but still plan to match, Jkidd is an injury risk, so having a capapable backup in a win now mode is a must.
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Post#2243 » by carayip » Sun Jul 15, 2012 12:24 pm

What's to debate with people who actually believe Ray Felton is a better basketball player than Jeremy Lin at this stage of their career? :dontknow:

I guess good luck with Felton. There is a reason he only got paid 3m/year and received zero offer before Knicks calling.
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Post#2244 » by seren » Sun Jul 15, 2012 12:26 pm

Morning after, this deal still sucks. Fatton does not fit. We are worse than last year.
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Post#2245 » by guardplay320 » Sun Jul 15, 2012 12:26 pm

Jeffires on ESPN Radio now and he talks of Lin to Houston as if it is basically a done deal. He does not expect the Knicks to match. From what I could get from what he was saying, if they let Lin walk it is is because he doesn't fit into Woodson's system. Woodson wants to run iso's primarily with Melo and Lin doesn't fit into that. He definitely seemed to put it on Woodson and not Melo.

If this is true, I think it is no coincidence that Woodson proclaimed Lin our starting point guard before the bigger offer came out. It was leaked, from the mouth of Woodson, on purpose IMO assuming this all goes down. They knew Houston would be forced to give Lin a better offer and they could use the whole luxury tax excuse to protect Woodson. It might be even possible that they told Lin they weren't going to match and had him go to Houston to ask for more money. More conspiracy theory, but pieces are started to come together now with this. Jeffries knows the Knicks locker room and him saying Lin isn't thought to meet Woodson's system speaks volumes.
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Post#2246 » by Bill Bradley » Sun Jul 15, 2012 12:29 pm

Felton is a fat piece of dung who has a terrible attitude and is just not very good. It is starting to feel like Isiah and Dolan asked Grunwald to step aside so they can take over.
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Post#2247 » by carayip » Sun Jul 15, 2012 12:30 pm

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Whether the Nets were a possible destination for Melo is really speculation. You can tell by Melo's "who?" reaction that the Nets weren't his priority.

What we do know is that there was an offer for Lin from Houston. Then we know that offer was changed conveniently after Camby and Kidd became official on Thursday.

At the end of the day our starting line up was worse with Lin so I'm not sure where you get the notion that we're better with him. That seven game winning streak didn't hold a candle to the month of April when Woody took over and Melo carried the team on his back with his Eastern Conference Player of the Month performance. (Which, if you remember, was when Lin was out.)


keep spinning it in your head. we looked great with Melo and Lin under Woodson. A lot better than we're going to look with Felton.


Was Felton in the Blazers lineup when we beat them by 50+ points last season? :lol:
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Post#2248 » by Jay10 » Sun Jul 15, 2012 12:31 pm

Jared Jeffries says he doesn't think the knicks will match the offer
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Post#2249 » by seren » Sun Jul 15, 2012 12:32 pm

Seriously garbage deal. No matter how much you don't like Lin, Fatton does not fit. It is all about having good relationships with Dolan.
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Post#2250 » by spree8 » Sun Jul 15, 2012 12:32 pm

I don't see why we can't match Lin too. Portland had Felton come off the bench behind Crawford, so why can't we have him off the bench behind Jeremy? Since Fields is gone, we can run Kidd at the backup 2 or even at starting sg until Shump gets back. He is 6'4'' and plays good enough defense to guard most sg's.

JLin/Felton
Iman/Kidd

Is what I would set up...not sure why we just don't match. I could see if we are paying big bucks to Kidd, Ray, and Shump, but these dudes make 3 mil and less each with Lin not making much more til the final year of his deal.

With that said, having Kurt and Camby being able to retire as Knicks makes me a happy s.o.b. Always wanted that for them.
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Post#2251 » by MKCATL » Sun Jul 15, 2012 12:35 pm

Dolan can't afford Jlin to blow up on Hou, we are matching.
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Post#2252 » by Jay10 » Sun Jul 15, 2012 12:36 pm

frank isola is now on espnnewyork.
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Post#2253 » by carayip » Sun Jul 15, 2012 12:36 pm

guardplay320 wrote:Jeffires on ESPN Radio now and he talks of Lin to Houston as if it is basically a done deal. He does not expect the Knicks to match. From what I could get from what he was saying, if they let Lin walk it is is because he doesn't fit into Woodson's system. Woodson wants to run iso's primarily with Melo and Lin doesn't fit into that. He definitely seemed to put it on Woodson and not Melo.


I guess Woodson wants to put his own stamp on this team and run all MDA guys out of town. Ironically they just replace a MDA type PG with another one.
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Post#2254 » by Grinditout » Sun Jul 15, 2012 12:38 pm

The media/fan backlash will be huge if they don't match, something Dolan usually wants to avoid.
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Post#2255 » by SelbyCobra » Sun Jul 15, 2012 12:39 pm

I would love to see them match and then make Lin earn his playing time throughout the year.

Lin knows full damn well that the Rockets offer is largely contingent on him being asian and providing a deep and unique revenue stream. I'd love for the Knicks to match and then make it very clear why they did so.

The more I think about this, the more it's a bit hypocritical on Lin's part. TO BE CLEAR, I DON'T BEGRUDGE HIM AT ALL FOR TAKING THE MONEY, but it doesn't jive with a guy who "just wanted to be known as a basketball player" and wished he could "just play".

It's like a poor person taking ""blood money", but not wanting to deal with the source of the funds. He's on the NBA minimum, cut twice, and now stands to make an historic payday that is based SIGNIFICANTLY on his marketability. I totally get taking the money because it's life-altering cake, but I hope that the guy has really thought this through, as this type of contract sets him up to be pigeon-holed and objectified even more than he was in the white hot moments of Linsanity.
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Post#2256 » by bklynstoops » Sun Jul 15, 2012 12:39 pm

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guardplay320 wrote:Jeffires on ESPN Radio now and he talks of Lin to Houston as if it is basically a done deal. He does not expect the Knicks to match. From what I could get from what he was saying, if they let Lin walk it is is because he doesn't fit into Woodson's system. Woodson wants to run iso's primarily with Melo and Lin doesn't fit into that. He definitely seemed to put it on Woodson and not Melo.


I guess Woodson wants to put his own stamp on this team and run all MDA guys out of town. Ironically they just replace a MDA type PG with another one.


I don't buy it. why bother saying they're going to match and that he'll start? and go out to dinner with him? Seems more likely that if they don't match, it's the revamped contract.
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Post#2257 » by Jay10 » Sun Jul 15, 2012 12:40 pm

Grinditout wrote:The media/fan backlash will be huge if they don't match, something Dolan usually wants to avoid.


If dolan can survive isiah this will be a walk in the park.
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Post#2258 » by duetta » Sun Jul 15, 2012 12:41 pm

carayip wrote:Was Felton in the Blazers lineup when we beat them by 50+ points last season? :lol:


Yep. My friend at work, the Portland fan who watches all of their games on league pass, had nothing good to say about him at all.

But at least Denver got Andre Miller and the rights to Jordan Hamilton for him. They likely made out best via their relationship with Felton.
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Post#2259 » by carayip » Sun Jul 15, 2012 12:43 pm

Grinditout wrote:The media/fan backlash will be huge if they don't match, something Dolan usually wants to avoid.


Well Dolan can always run some stories on the papers like Lin's being greedy or the Knicks care more about bball than marketing so that fans would give him a pass. It appears that they're doing this already.
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Re: *Felton traded to the Knicks. Knicks not matching Lin? 

Post#2260 » by spre8well » Sun Jul 15, 2012 12:44 pm

90% chance Knicks will match.

But either way, Lin wins.

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