Felton traded to Knicks; Not matching Lin? (part 2)

[suicidedeuce]

[Fair enough. I'm just making sure people realize that it WAS said. The context and all of that -- I think that's a fair subject of debate. But people were saying it's made up. It's not. He said it.

We need to establish facts -- thus my elongated post lol.

It is the text equilivant of talking slow so the stupid people can understand.

[Pharmcat]

this is misplaced anger. if they don't match lin it has nothing to do with melo. stop it.

True. But he'll be the scapegoat if they don't.

what did melo say? did he really say it or is he misquoted?

[god shammgod]

how can we pay jared 3 mill ?

[TDcraz5]

goddamn smoke....who shall that be?!?!

maybe im picky but i was like this

....... ............

when it got to her face

yeah I can see why you would say that but I kinda dig that MILFish butter face

.....oh yeah, resign Lin!

[AmazingJason]

I don't see an reason to believe that Lin "wanted to leave NY"... what, he was supposed to turn down the extra money to not "screw the Knicks"???

Yeah because athletes do that all the time. Gimme a break folks.

All he needed to do was apparently just start with that 3 year deal. Changing it once it comes out and a reaction gotten was in poor taste. Unless Melo called him and said "what are you crazy? Theyll match...ask for more!!" (and i would not be surprised that some of you knuckleheads thinks that could have happened) its all Lin, his agent and Morey bringing this confrontation on. Sure they could have been surprised at the apparent knick reaction (see Lins comments expressing same) but how on earth does Melo become the focal point of this? I mean honestly how dense are some of you people?

Just match. Forget about the poison pill sh*t. That stuff isn't on the books. It's $8 million/year. We're making a 3-year run at this...give us the best shot at a title as we can get.

[SARGO127]

Seriously? Now we are trading Kostas?

[Brownsville's Finest]

this gotta be some sort of record. Lin the most popular knick of all time?

Are we holding a popularity contest or trying to win games. People have been heckling Dolan for recklessly spending money, and now that he's allowed the "basketball" people to make "basketball" decisions, everyone wants to complain. HYPOCRITES.

[K_ick_God]

@jwquick

Possible details of Blazers-Knicks deal could be Knicks sending Kostas Papanikolaou to Blazers and $$ to help pay for Jeffries' $3.1M salary

Knicks going this far, giving up this much to make the trade = Lin is probably gone IMO.

Just calling it like I see it. They're going out of their way to get Felton. Something seems to have changed.

Still can't believe this is happening.

[Knicks_Fan2]

Stephen A about to come on--this should be fun.

[GratefulDead]

Plain and simple, Lin chose $$ over contending. The rockets aren't even a playoff team.

[moocow007]

Why Lin has the edge over Felton at PG

The Knicks acquiring Raymond Felton could signal the departure of Jeremy Lin.

But is that the right move? ESPN Stats & Info says no, utilizing Synergy Sports technology.

Offensively, Lin is more efficient in pick-and-rolls, isolation and jumpers off the dribble, and he's more efficient on defense.

Here's a quick breakdown:

Pick-and-rolls -- Lin and Felton both relied on pick-and-rolls more than any other play type last season. It’s one of Lin’s least-efficient play types, but Felton was worse than Lin. Only three of the 41 players with at least 200 pick-and-roll ball-handler plays scored fewer points per play than Felton, who went to the free throw line nearly three times less often than Lin.

Isolations -- Isolation plays are where Lin excels. He scored the third-most points per play of the 91 players with at least 75 isolation plays last season. Felton ranked 68th. Felton turned the ball over on isolation plays more than twice as often as Lin, who turned it over on 6.5 percent of those plays, the 10th-lowest turnover rate among the 91 players.

Jumpers off the dribble -- Lin is better with the ball in his hands. Last season, he shot 32.7 percent on catch-and-shoot jumpers, including 35.9 percent on unguarded catch-and-shoot jumpers. But he shot 47.9 percent on jumpers off the dribble. Of the 102 players who attempted at least 90 jumpers off the dribble, only Stephen Curry and Steve Nash shot a higher field-goal percentage than Lin (47.9). Felton ranked 85th of those 102 players, shooting just 32.7 percent.

Transition -- Lin and Felton, who scored the exact same amount of transition points per play, were both very inefficient on transition plays last season. Jamal Crawford and Al-Farouq Aminu were the only two players with fewer points per transition play of the 130 players with at least 50 plays.

Passing -- As far as passing on pick-and-roll plays, Lin and Felton are almost identical. Felton passed the ball on 54 percent of his pick-and-roll plays, while Lin passed it 53 percent of the time. And both players’ teammates had nearly the same field-goal percentage and points per play on those passes. Felton passed it to the roll men more often, while Lin hit the cutters and spot-up shooters more often.

Felton passed the ball more often (29 percent) on isolation plays than Lin (17 percent). Lin was better at passing to cutters on isolation plays, resulting in a higher field-goal percentage and more points per play by his teammates on those passes. But with Lin’s high efficiency on isolation plays, it may not be such a bad thing that he only passes the ball on 17 percent of his isolation plays.

Defense -- Lin held opponents to fewer points per play and a lower field-goal percentage (37.8) last season than Felton (41.6). Of the 235 players to defend at least 300 plays, Lin allowed the 78th-fewest points per play, while Felton ranked 133rd.

http://espn.go.com/blog/new-york/knicks/post/_/id/22098/lin-has-the-edge-over-felton-at-pg

Yes Lin is better, I dont think that most people are arguing that. I think everyone but the nutty Felton fanatic would like Lin back and over Felton.

[Jay10]

Stephen A about to come on--this should be fun.

there will be a lot of yelling and memorable quotes.

[polarbears815]

Stephen A about to come on--this should be fun.

Oh boy. Here we go.

[j4remi]

One more thought...Felton for 3 years will make 2/3's what Lin makes in that third year. Felton who for the majority of his career was a starter, has shown success with Amare (though I'm skeptical) and is a true veteran...Over the span of the next three years...will make 2/3's the money that a young, talented but raw PG is going to make in his final year after just 20 games.

It's a little bit crazy.

[Da_Mane_Man]

ESPN ticker just said Stephen A just reported that Knicks will NOT match offer sheet for Lin.

WTF!!!!!!!!!!

so let me get this straight, they were 50/50 on matching Fields, but they won't match lin for 5 million more over 3 years?

[duetta]

The Times story this AM had two European assets going to Portland.

[Najeem27]

If Lin is gone its no ones fault other than himself. He didn't have to sign the offer sheet.

[Jay10]

and SAS begins.

[Fury]

@jwquick

Possible details of Blazers-Knicks deal could be Knicks sending Kostas Papanikolaou to Blazers and $$ to help pay for Jeffries' $3.1M salary

Wow Papa Knick too?

[defjux21]

Let's get real here... The offer to Lin is ridiculous. Possibly paying 15M to Lin in the 3rd year is ridiculous. How many PG's are making that kind of money right now? Deron, CP3, D-Rose. Those players are proven STARS

I love Lin. The story & everything, but this kid was 24 hrs from being cut by the Knicks. 24 F'N hours. He has a total of 26 NBA starts under his belt. Yes he made a great opportunity of his situation, but I'm sorry, the way he chose not to play in game 3&4 didn't sit well with me.

This is NY. People go to work feeling less than 85% everyday. Bottom line for me, dude should have given it a go...

As a comparison, Morey gave Omer Asik the exact same poison pilled deal as Lin and cheapskate Reinsdorf is gonna match the offer sheet, even if it means amnestying Boozer in year 3.

Lin has much higher value but you're telling me not matching him is a sound basketball decision even if it has nothing to with basketball and is most likely attributed to Dolan's childish antics?

Ticket prices are going to skyrocket with out without Lin, so it's not like Dolan is going to lose a substantial amount. All this proves is that once again, when it comes to the NBA, the largest casualties will always be the fans.