Felton traded to Knicks; Not matching Lin? (part 2)

Fury · Post #581 » by **Fury** » Sun Jul 15, 2012 5:12 pm

CoolKids wrote:
Fury wrote:
CoolKids wrote:We should match Lin, but if you dont think that contract is ridiculous then you are dumb.

I'm sorry but we payed 120 mill for a lotto team. Excuse me if I don't give a **** how much he's getting paid.

I dont care either, but its still a ridiculous contract.

But who cares.

Knicks218 · Post #582 » by **Knicks218** » Sun Jul 15, 2012 5:12 pm

Give me Kevin martin or Courtney lee in a sign and trade for lin and i'm happy!

I guess those reports about Lin being upset at us was true because he sure screw'd us, i thought he was Christian? Moneys the root of all Evil!!.. Lin = illuminati/NWO anti christ! lol

Red Vines · Post #583 » by **Red Vines** » Sun Jul 15, 2012 5:12 pm

Rod Boone ‏@rodboone
Melo said he hasn't spoken with anyone in the #Knicks organization to see what's going to happen with Lin.

Najeem27 · Post #584 » by **Najeem27** » Sun Jul 15, 2012 5:13 pm

If we lose Lin its not that bad. At least we got Kidd and Felton. Felton can make Amare and Tyson better also.

EchelonNYK · Post #585 » by **EchelonNYK** » Sun Jul 15, 2012 5:13 pm

The media is saying the Knicks should let Lin walk but at the same time calling them old. hypocrite, much?

Post #586 » by **K_ick_God** » Sun Jul 15, 2012 5:13 pm

DE FENSE wrote:
Answer me this though - If Knicks weren't planning on matching Lin, why were they in a mad rush to get the trade for Felton done last night, avoiding the offer sheet all night? They knew they wouldn't be able to get the same deal once they signed Lin, isn't that correct?

You make a good point. There is obviously something -- lots of things -- we don't know.

Maybe Felton was about to sign somewhere else though. I don't know.

Felton could be an Emergency Plan C.

polarbears815 · Post #587 » by **polarbears815** » Sun Jul 15, 2012 5:13 pm

crazybranman360 wrote:Do people relize that Felton is a much better fit with our team than Lin? You can argue all you want that Lin is the "more talented" player but, Felton fits our team WAY better.

And Lin very unproven

There's an article out there with stats by Synergy posted on ESPN.com that proves otherwise. (http://espn.go.com/blog/truehoop/post/_ ... s-lin-sane) So you can either choose to believe what you believe, or believe the stats. I admit, stats can lie too. But since I'm a stats person, I'll choose to believe what the stats say. And they say Lin is actually a better fit.

thebuzzardman · Post #588 » by **thebuzzardman** » Sun Jul 15, 2012 5:13 pm

My tiny contribution to 500 pages by Tuesday...

EchelonNYK · Post #589 » by **EchelonNYK** » Sun Jul 15, 2012 5:13 pm

Red Vines wrote:Rod Boone ‏@rodboone
Melo said he hasn't spoken with anyone in the #Knicks organization to see what's going to happen with Lin.

Trust me, he knows.

ORANGEandBLUE · Post #590 » by **ORANGEandBLUE** » Sun Jul 15, 2012 5:13 pm

Red Vines wrote:Rod Boone ‏@rodboone
Melo said he hasn't spoken with anyone in the #Knicks organization to see what's going to happen with Lin.

If this is true it reflects poorly on Melo.

CoolKids · Post #591 » by **CoolKids** » Sun Jul 15, 2012 5:14 pm

Fury wrote:But who cares.

James Dolan probably does. I dont see what the problem with Melos statement is though, it is a ridiculous contract. That was my point.

Woodsanity · Post #592 » by **Woodsanity** » Sun Jul 15, 2012 5:14 pm

CoolKids wrote:
Fury wrote:
CoolKids wrote:We should match Lin, but if you dont think that contract is ridiculous then you are dumb.

I'm sorry but we payed 120 mill for a lotto team. Excuse me if I don't give a **** how much he's getting paid.

I dont care either, but its still a ridiculous contract.

It is but we get nothing back if Lin walks and I don't want Fatton as the starting PG.

Post #593 » by **mrpoetryNmotion** » Sun Jul 15, 2012 5:14 pm

CoolKids wrote:We should match Lin, but if you dont think that contract is ridiculous then you are dumb.

The contract is ridiculous...but the Knicks can't tell me their "going for it" and then turn down assets that could greatly help their organization in some way (either Lin playing or in a trade)...especially when they look to be in 2nd round exit mode for the next three years and have a precedent of dropping big bucks on crap teams.

polarbears815 · Post #594 » by **polarbears815** » Sun Jul 15, 2012 5:14 pm

echelonNYK wrote:The media is saying the Knicks should let Lin walk but at the same time calling them old. hypocrite, much?

The media is always like that.

Najeem27 · Post #595 » by **Najeem27** » Sun Jul 15, 2012 5:15 pm

The media is making a big deal out of this. Nothing is official. F*ck off.

Greenie · Post #596 » by **Greenie** » Sun Jul 15, 2012 5:16 pm

BeagleBoss wrote:
akapeter wrote:Lin is not worth 30 Million.

Considering how much money Lin made and will make the Knicks, yes he is.

Basketball wise he is not.

MARKETING WISE HE'S WORTH MORE.

Post #597 » by **K_ick_God** » Sun Jul 15, 2012 5:17 pm

I see only one small hope here -- perhaps the Knicks are really putting on a full-court press to see if Lin will agree to withdraw the offer sheet.

Because I don't think the Rockets want this on their books either, since it hamstrings them with Melo. This whole offer sheet process is absolute crap and rigged with nonsense.

So maybe -- small chance -- they're trying to force Lin into taking it back because he probably doesn't want to be in Houston. But this is a conspiracy theory.

RutgersBJJ · Post #598 » by **RutgersBJJ** » Sun Jul 15, 2012 5:18 pm

polarbears815 wrote:
crazybranman360 wrote:Do people relize that Felton is a much better fit with our team than Lin? You can argue all you want that Lin is the "more talented" player but, Felton fits our team WAY better.

And Lin very unproven

There's an article out there with stats by Synergy posted on ESPN.com that proves otherwise. (http://espn.go.com/blog/truehoop/post/_ ... s-lin-sane) So you can either choose to believe what you believe, or believe the stats. I admit, stats can lie too. But since I'm a stats person, I'll choose to believe what the stats say. And they say Lin is actually a better fit.

And anybody who calls themselves a "stats" guy I assume would have taken a course or two about statistics in college.

The first thing you learn in stat is the importance of sample size. Anything less than 30 is unacceptable unless proof of normalized data. Lin has started 25 games. They are comparing an unverifiable data set to someone else's verifiable data set.

benjamakandi · Post #599 » by **benjamakandi** » Sun Jul 15, 2012 5:18 pm

I am confident NY will match Houton's offer.

crazybranman360 · Post #600 » by **crazybranman360** » Sun Jul 15, 2012 5:18 pm

polarbears815 wrote:
crazybranman360 wrote:Do people relize that Felton is a much better fit with our team than Lin? You can argue all you want that Lin is the "more talented" player but, Felton fits our team WAY better.

And Lin very unproven

There's an article out there with stats by Synergy posted on ESPN.com that proves otherwise. (http://espn.go.com/blog/truehoop/post/_ ... s-lin-sane) So you can either choose to believe what you believe, or believe the stats. I admit, stats can lie too. But since I'm a stats person, I'll choose to believe what the stats say. And they say Lin is actually a better fit.

problem with those stats is they were in Feltons worst year and probably Jeremy Lins best. He's not going to be out of shape next season and should be much improved.

Also says that Felton hit the roll man (Amare) in Pick and Rolls while Lin usually hits spot up shooters. We need to get Amare involved, so like I said, better fit