Felton traded to Knicks; Not matching Lin? (part 2)

[21shumpst]

This has the potential of really blowing up in our faces big-time. If Lin puts up numbers in Houston and Felton isn't the floor leader that guides us on a title run, we will never hear the end of this. Nobody is going to give a sh*t about LeBron and the Heat after this.

We will be the laughing stock of the NBA... if we are not already.

[kane]

This has the potential of really blowing up in our faces big-time. If Lin puts up numbers in Houston and Felton isn't the floor leader that guides us on a title run, we will never hear the end of this. Nobody is going to give a sh*t about LeBron and the Heat after this.

on the other hand if he bombs out it will look like were dodging bullets inside the matrix

[Jay10]

Rod Boone ‏@rodboone
Seeing lots of hate for Melo flowin' in my mentions. Let's be clear: He wasn't bashing Lin, he was killing that contract ... and he's right.

Who the Phuck is Melo now? Larry Coon.. stick to scoring the ball man and STFU.

[HerSports85]

This is going to blow up so big in Dolans face

I really doubt it. Once teams were able to get the scouting report on Lin and prepare for him, Lin was average. Can't blame lin for taking the money, but they way him and his agent went about it was DIRTY. I see both sides, but if you are more concerned about Lin then the Knicks, go and root for the damn Rockets. Just like everyone was screaming about the denver deal, what has our guys done over there that's soo impressive??

Personally, I think that Felton really want to be here, excited about playing with Tyson, Melo and Stat again, and will try his best to come in prepared. Not to mention Woodson has already stated and made it a priority to have everyone in shape.

So all you so-called fans talking about going, then go. I'm okay with our roster, and not to mention we have no idea of what other moves are going to be done. By the way, Kurt Thomas will be great for STAT!

It's all doom and gloom with you guys. We finally have an off season, training camp and Pre season games to work things out and ya'll already writing off the knicks. BYE THEN!!!

[howe070523]

Rod Boone ‏@rodboone
Seeing lots of hate for Melo flowin' in my mentions. Let's be clear: He wasn't bashing Lin, he was killing that contract ... and he's right.

did he say anything about his own contract?

[knicks742]

Stern should intervene. This is an extinction level event.

We need to calm down. Nothing has happened yet. Even if the Knicks feel like they are not matchin today, they have 2 days to reassess and change their minds.

[Never Wrong]

there is too much at stake non basketball to let him go, revenue, competition for audience from brooklyn, etc

I think cooler heads need to prevail, match the deal, and reasses the situation

lin has trade value despite the 15 M at the end

it's over. they got Hahn out there working the press with how his teammates weren't comfortable with him. there's no coming back to that.

Hahn's not the only one. It's no secret that there are many members of the media paid off by Dolan.

[OminousEther]

This is like some kind of nightmare that won't end

[DE FENSE]

Let the Chandler hate start?? Right? Or is Melo the only bad guy?

Nah chandler is also a bad guy. It's very rare for the 2 best players on a team to have such serious difference with a 2nd-year player that they're willing to have the team get worse just to have that player off the team.

People are shrugging this off, but if this really boils down to bad blood that is beyond pathetic and raises serious doubts about whether our core has the mental-makeup foc us to contend.

Yup what does Chandler know about winning a title

This board has gone totally bonkers.

[adjacent2bench]

This has the potential of really blowing up in our faces big-time. If Lin puts up numbers in Houston and Felton isn't the floor leader that guides us on a title run, we will never hear the end of this. Nobody is going to give a sh*t about LeBron and the Heat after this.

And at the other end, if we match Lin, he sucks, and we have to pay him $15 million that last year...then what?

[ORANGEandBLUE]

Rod Boone ‏@rodboone
Seeing lots of hate for Melo flowin' in my mentions. Let's be clear: He wasn't bashing Lin, he was killing that contract ... and he's right.

Who the Phuck is Melo now? Larry Coon.. stick to scoring the ball man and STFU.

That is such a lame excuse... I agree that Melo probably didn't mean any harm but that doesn't mean he can't apologize.

[DocZaius]

Dolan is flying close the sun right now

The fan base is already starting to burn

[ORANGEandBLUE]

This has the potential of really blowing up in our faces big-time. If Lin puts up numbers in Houston and Felton isn't the floor leader that guides us on a title run, we will never hear the end of this. Nobody is going to give a sh*t about LeBron and the Heat after this.

And at the other end, if we match Lin, he sucks, and we have to pay him $15 million that last year...then what?

Then nothing... we wouldn't be under the cap any way.

[K_ick_God]

Knicks without Lin, with Felton/JR playing major roles = non-stop chucking. It would be unwatchable.

I don't mind Melo's trigger finger if we have a system and a chance at a title. There'd be no offensive system and not the talent level you need to win a title.

It'd be rock bottom.

[bklynstoops]

athletes are dumb. they say dumb things. expecting them to know what to say is even dumber though.

how about unwaveringly defending the dumb things said? pretty dumb too, no?

it was bad form, but the decision has probably been made already by the Knicks.

[kosmovitelli]

Crazzy stuff. Already 172 pages in the first thread and 52 here ? LOL

Marc Berman
One of things you learn in covering #Knicks is you don't cross owner James Dolan. He is a very loyal guy but when disloyalty is shown, you are done with him. That may very well be case here with Jeremy Lin. It wasn't just the money, which was obscene in third year. As we have reported last couple of days, the renegotiation of an offer sheet that was agreed upon and leaked to press - after Woodson publicly said they'd match and he'd be starter - was a kick in gut to organization.

The renegotiation of the offer sheet was a kick in gut to organization ? Gimme a break !
I guess not offering a contract in the first place and going after Nash was showing respect to Lin ? Loyalty is overrated. It's a business for both sides. If the Clippers offered Chris Paul for Lin then Grunwald and Dolan wouldn't hesitate to pull the trigger, even if Lin said he doesn't want to be traded to LA.

If somehow Morey changed his mind and decided to withdraw the offer sheet (instead of increasing the salary in the third season), I doubt Dolan and Grunwald would have offered Lin a max four-year deal with Early Bird rights. If no other team showed interest, they would have lowballed Lin. That's why they didn't offered him a max Early Bird deal in the first place. They were looking for a bargain. They hoped no team would bid considering Knicks said they would match any offer. Their strategy backfired, instead of being intimidated, Morey offered a three year max contract and dared the Knicks to match. Dolan/Grunwald gambled and they lost. Be a man, get over it and match !

[ibraheim718]

What does Melo's comment have to do with Lin's contract or the Knick's matching it.

The contract is ridiculous. For a player that hasn't proved anything in the league. Stated he was 85% in the playoffs but didn't play (yes that should a lot of heart right KnicksGod). Melo's comments have nothing to do with the Rockets offer, Lin's play or our front office matching but you guys just look for someone to hate so Melo it is.

Let me ask you this do you think paying Lin 15 dollars a year for his on the court basketball play is a smart basketball decision?? I am not talking about off the court stuff I am talking on the court only?

Nothing.. but he needs to STFU next time he's asked a question about another players money.

Is paying Melo, Chandler and Stat something like 55million per year to go 8-17 ON THE COURT a smart basketball decision? Lord knows what record we would have ended up with had Lin not come in and grabbed his balls and saved the team and their reputations.

[Besart19]

I don't think the difference between Lin and Felton is the difference between winning or not winning a championship THIS YEAR. The question is the future and the future seems to be going after CP3. But matching Lin wouldn't seem to hurt that pursuit.

Yes, it'd!! In 2013 FA we cant make a deal for CP3 if Lin's comes back; because of the restriction of the new CBA for teams that are over the tax-threshold. We can only make a trade come February deadline; but in that case the FO must have Lin's permission and agreement to play for the Clippers. For this scenario to happen, NY would have matched also Fields contract. But, now that they let him walk, i fear that they believe that the road to CP3 doesnt go through Lin!!

With, Fields gone, the only posibility to get Paul is to gave up Tyson (Tyson + Lin + filler + future 1st rounder for Paul + DeAndre)

[Jay10]

frank isola didn't waste any time when it came to mentioning chris paul

[god shammgod]

Sam Amick

On the Jeremy Lin front, I'm told as of minutes ago that the Knicks - who added Raymond Felton to their point guard mix last night - have still not informed the restricted free agent point guard on whether or not they'll match Houston's three-year, $25.1 million offer sheet. On the other side, it's certainly worth noting that Felton's camp - while not knowing the Knicks' decision with total certainty - is under the impression that New York is not likely to match. New York has until 11:59.59 on Tuesday night to decide.