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Mr_Perfect wrote:I'm glad to see this team has now officially traded all assets for the next five years and is considering a bench of all 40 year olds. That's the best way to build a team for the present and future. Good job, Grunnie.
moocow007 wrote:What is a bit disconcerting? If we are going to go off and crazy conspiracy silliness...then it would make more sense for Stoudemire towant Lin out cause NO ONE id going to make Anthony a 2nd wheel or 2nd option. Stoudemire OTOH would risk being even Robin now. And isnt it shady that Stoudemire started sucking when he realized he wasnt going to get the attention while Anthony, despite already nutty, nutty Knickfans blaming him for killing linsanity pretty much single handedly carry the knicks to an evenbetter record than they had when Lin was the guy? So why not blame Stoudemire as the culprit? And lets just forget that Anthony doesnt make trades, doesnt sign players nor wouldnt be threatened by Lin cause he US BETTER. Stop the nonsense. Everything that goes bad in life doesnt have a cinspiracy behind it.
stevieg987 wrote:We never planned on matching Lin. Face it.
The Knicks had that fat fck Felton shoving hot dogs down his face since the fourth of July. He was telling people he was on his way to the Knicks, too. We made promises.
We never even brought Jeremy to the negotiating table. People made excuses: let him set his value, why even waste our time when he's getting more, etc. Even then, we shouted at the roof-tops, leaked like the exxon valdez that we'll match anything. Truly begging to be poison pilled, and then when he signs the contract we knew he was going to get, we smear the kid. Have our players GO ON SPORTSCENTER and feed us propaganda: calling it a ridiculous contract (why the hell are they even talking about this?!?!).
Make no mistake this was orchestrated. They're trying to spin a narrative that villaniazes Lin-- he took the money, what can we do (hey, you idiots, maybe actually make him an offer, let the kid know you WON'T match ANYTHING, THEN maybe he would've signed with you because hey he loves it in NY). But when you lie to the kid, the media, and then pull the rug out from under him-- it reaks. It reaks. The whole thing REAKS.
The lone kid getting paid 500k a last year, and Dolan pimped the living hell outta this kid, soaked and squeezed him for everything. Stock prices, ticket prices, web hits, jersey sales, and rating all up up up up up on the back of a kid who saw none of the profit. Dolan probably made NINE figures off Lin related, and now we can't overpay the kid 5-7 for ONE YEAR. Are you fckin kidding me!?!? All so we can be general'd by Raymond fckin Felton-- a journeyman with the talent of a back-up pg. INSANITY.
KnicksGod wrote:I don't think Melo is really jealous of Lin but he obviously doesn't get how good Lin could be. I actually think he could well be a bargain at $8M per year.
Lin has some of the best upside at PG in the league for a young player. People are missing that. You are going to be sad when you see what he reaches -- he's going to be extremely good and maybe semi-great.
Melo is an idiot to say what he said -- there's no excusing it. Period. Dolan would be an idiot to give up Lin -- there would be no excusing that.
I have stood up for both of them in the past so I have credibility here -- I think they both have gotten some unfair criticism. But this would clearly be a sea change -- it would show just how toxic both of them are. Melo included because he apparently doesn't understand how badly he needs a PG or how talented Lin is in all the ways we badly need a floor general.
This would be a cruel, bitter and obvious line past which no rational fan could go. It'd be obvious how delusional and petty our decision-making processes have become ... and for many fans, the point of following them any longer would be ripped away. Furthermore, for the ones loyal and good enough to stick around (and I commend you for it), your fun would be ripped away too.
It would be an unmitigated disaster of such great proportions that it could not be overstated.
bklynstoops wrote:Mr_Perfect wrote:I'm glad to see this team has now officially traded all assets for the next five years and is considering a bench of all 40 year olds. That's the best way to build a team for the present and future. Good job, Grunnie.
it sounds so bad when you put it like that.
XcalibuR wrote:king billing wrote:
I have a good idea, let's all give Shumpert a 15 million dollar 3rd year contract. Sounds fair, right?
If he gets 1 million dollars in year 1 and year 2, sure.
So I ask you, who are the knicks going to bring in year 3? All scrubs?
ITALIA17 wrote:The ONLY way I see this offer matched is if NYC fans go absolutely insane that its being reported they wont match it.
The thing is, its 50/50 with the fans. Half think its insane to sign him for that money, half think its insane to let him go.
I dont think Dolan is going to get enough reaction.
Not to mention its not the playoffs so the female fans wont be out in full effect acting like they know what there talking about.
KnicksGod wrote:I don't think Melo is really jealous of Lin but he obviously doesn't get how good Lin could be. I actually think he could well be a bargain at $8M per year.
Lin has some of the best upside at PG in the league for a young player. People are missing that. You are going to be sad when you see what he reaches -- he's going to be extremely good and maybe semi-great.
Melo is an idiot to say what he said -- there's no excusing it. Period. Dolan would be an idiot to give up Lin -- there would be no excusing that.
I have stood up for both of them in the past so I have credibility here -- I think they both have gotten some unfair criticism. But this would clearly be a sea change -- it would show just how toxic both of them are. Melo included because he apparently doesn't understand how badly he needs a PG or how talented Lin is in all the ways we badly need a floor general.
This would be a cruel, bitter and obvious line past which no rational fan could go. It'd be obvious how delusional and petty our decision-making processes have become ... and for many fans, the point of following them any longer would be ripped away. Furthermore, for the ones loyal and good enough to stick around (and I commend you for it), your fun would be ripped away too.
It would be an unmitigated disaster of such great proportions that it could not be overstated.
waya wrote:So Melo basically praised the kid non-stop and as soon as he says something all of us are thinking or have been saying to each other, he's crucified? Get over it. That contract IS ridiculous.
king billing wrote:KnicksGod wrote:I don't think Melo is really jealous of Lin but he obviously doesn't get how good Lin could be. I actually think he could well be a bargain at $8M per year.
Lin has some of the best upside at PG in the league for a young player. People are missing that. You are going to be sad when you see what he reaches -- he's going to be extremely good and maybe semi-great.
Melo is an idiot to say what he said -- there's no excusing it. Period. Dolan would be an idiot to give up Lin -- there would be no excusing that.
I have stood up for both of them in the past so I have credibility here -- I think they both have gotten some unfair criticism. But this would clearly be a sea change -- it would show just how toxic both of them are. Melo included because he apparently doesn't understand how badly he needs a PG or how talented Lin is in all the ways we badly need a floor general.
This would be a cruel, bitter and obvious line past which no rational fan could go. It'd be obvious how delusional and petty our decision-making processes have become ... and for many fans, the point of following them any longer would be ripped away. Furthermore, for the ones loyal and good enough to stick around (and I commend you for it), your fun would be ripped away too.
It would be an unmitigated disaster of such great proportions that it could not be overstated.
Dude, you've only seen Lin play 25 games. Are you convinced?
I don't think Melo was trying to hate on Lin, he would jump on that contract too in his 2nd year in the NBA.
Red Vines wrote:Deadspin @Deadspin
Jason Kidd Update: His car careened of a pole into the woods near his home, treated for minor injuries http://deadsp.in/LWKX
Jesus, Dolan still trying to rehabilitate fellow alcoholics?
VirginiaKnickFan wrote:bklynstoops wrote:Mr_Perfect wrote:I'm glad to see this team has now officially traded all assets for the next five years and is considering a bench of all 40 year olds. That's the best way to build a team for the present and future. Good job, Grunnie.
it sounds so bad when you put it like that.
Look after 3 years all the big contracts expire, then we'll reverse course and start building a team through the draft....I hope.
biglove44 wrote:
You are correct. He doesn't lose anything playing in Houston. He gets paid and plays the game he loves. Over the summer his HS coach (notice how this is a real person - talks to Lin on the regular, not just an unnamed source) was recently interviewed and said Lin turned down quite a few endorsement offers to focus on training because the endorsements took up too much time.
People act like he'll be lost without the ny market, he won't. He's turning down offers to focus on bball; he's not trying to be the next blake commercial king griffin.
Red Vines wrote:Deadspin @Deadspin
Jason Kidd Update: His car careened of a pole into the woods near his home, treated for minor injuries http://deadsp.in/LWKX
Jesus, Dolan still trying to rehabilitate fellow alcoholics?
ibraheim718 wrote:Red Vines wrote:Deadspin @Deadspin
Jason Kidd Update: His car careened of a pole into the woods near his home, treated for minor injuries http://deadsp.in/LWKX
Jesus, Dolan still trying to rehabilitate fellow alcoholics?
Anotha Knicks fan wrote:I dont understand how some posters are ok with this, and still have a great outlook on next season. Crushing the East? Really? How so? What are we doing that improves our position from last year? How many games did we win against the heat in the playoffs again?