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Felton traded to Knicks; Not matching Lin? (part 2)

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Re: Felton traded to Knicks; Not matching Lin? (part 2) 

Post#1461 » by BayareaKnicks » Sun Jul 15, 2012 8:18 pm

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KnicksGod wrote:Even if Lin comes back, I feel thoroughly disgusted by Melo.


It unbelievable to me that he would have the gall to call a teammate's contract ridiculous when he makes super-max and hasn't won a damn thing.



Yes, it's an unwritten rule. WTF is he to call somebody's contract ridiculous.
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Re: Felton traded to Knicks; Not matching Lin? (part 2) 

Post#1462 » by 21shumpst » Sun Jul 15, 2012 8:18 pm

Besart19 wrote:Lin should make up his mistake and withdraw that offer; if not i wont be mad at Dolan; its not just about the lux tax, which would be up to 115M in `15; but also for emotional and personal reasons. He wont accept to be fooled by anyone; not at this way!!

Sorry Lin; you prefered Yao over Chandler!!



What are u babbling about? Lin cannot withdraw the offer since he signed it already.
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Re: Felton traded to Knicks; Not matching Lin? (part 2) 

Post#1463 » by kNicksGmen » Sun Jul 15, 2012 8:18 pm

Falstaffxx wrote:I also can't fathom the people saying "no, too much money!" when Carmelo, who underperformed mightily most of the year and shot us out of countless games, makes way more.

wtf are you talking about? just stop while you're already way behind. :roll:
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Re: Felton traded to Knicks; Not matching Lin? (part 2) 

Post#1464 » by JBreezeNY » Sun Jul 15, 2012 8:18 pm

howe070523 wrote:Ok let me try again.

JKidd averaged 6pts and 5 assists shooting 35% while playing more minutes per game than Lin.

Felton Averaged 11 points and 6.5 assists while shooting 40%.

At no way shape or form either guy should be consider an upgrade.

Now explain yourself, how do those 2 guys fit better with the team.


My dude I'm not looking at numbers nor do I care about numbers because if I did then I could say well Felton & Kidd don't turnover the ball as much as lin did per 35 minutes or some BS like that.

Felton plays the halfcourt better and is a better passer & is a better defender. Kidd is a much better defender than Lin as well as being a better passer.

Like I said you could make the case that they fit better, hell you could even make a case for Elton Brand being a better fit for the Knicks more than Stat yet most people would think it's a downgrade.
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Re: Felton traded to Knicks; Not matching Lin? (part 2) 

Post#1465 » by Falstaffxx » Sun Jul 15, 2012 8:18 pm

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Falstaffxx wrote:Basically the people saying Lin isn't important are just saying "I chose to ignore the actual results on the court and repeat over and over that it wasn't enough sample size."

Carmelo ran us into the ground for most of the year. Lin saved the season. Heads of out asses please?


How exactly did Carmelo run us into the ground? Please, tell me. I recall him playing out of his mind to start the season, got hurt, and our ENTIRE TEAM struggled without a point guard and a hurt Melo. Lin came in, dominated, we needed that, and even played well as Melo came back (Melo wasn't even taking a lot of shots). Then the team struggles, Dantoni fired, and Melo goes on an insane run to end the year. I don't even understand where you're trying to take this thread. Lin was amazing in his 25 games but he played nothing beyond that with Melo putting up ridiculous stats--remember the Celtics games--even in losses (see the Heat game) to close the year. What are you trying to get at?


Most of the year he played poorly despite being the centerpiece of the team. That's how he ran us into the ground.
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Re: Felton traded to Knicks; Not matching Lin? (part 2) 

Post#1466 » by Knicks_Fan2 » Sun Jul 15, 2012 8:18 pm

Falstaffxx wrote:
KnicksGod wrote:Even if Lin comes back, I feel thoroughly disgusted by Melo.


It unbelievable to me that he would have the gall to call a teammate's contract ridiculous when he makes super-max and hasn't won a damn thing.


Yes, guys, let's ignore everything else Melo has said about Lin for the last few weeks and take one ambiguous quote and vilify him. KG, I thought you were better than that.
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Re: Felton traded to Knicks; Not matching Lin? (part 2) 

Post#1467 » by langal » Sun Jul 15, 2012 8:18 pm

howe070523 wrote:
JBreezeNY wrote:
howe070523 wrote:those assumptions are based on Felton and Kidd are better than Lin at this stage of their career.

Yes you are wrong

Did I say Felton & Kidd are better than Lin or did I say that you could make a case that they fit better on the team.

Try again.

Ok let me try again.

JKidd averaged 6pts and 5 assists shooting 35% while playing more minutes per game than Lin.

Felton Averaged 11 points and 6.5 assists while shooting 40%.

At no way shape or form either guy should be consider an upgrade.

Now explain yourself, how do those 2 guys fit better with the team.


I think he means Felton and Kidd are a better "cultural" fit for the team. If someone thinks it's too much $$ - yeah I can understand that. But to say that Felton is basically better for the team smells of something else quite honsetly...

Felton-mania occurred with D'Antoni.
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Re: Felton traded to Knicks; Not matching Lin? (part 2) 

Post#1468 » by AllanHoustonFan » Sun Jul 15, 2012 8:18 pm

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Two more sources now telling me Lin is gone. First source seemed adamant but I believe the latter more; mostly because of luxury tax issues.
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it's over.
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Re: Felton traded to Knicks; Not matching Lin? (part 2) 

Post#1469 » by Falstaffxx » Sun Jul 15, 2012 8:19 pm

kNicksGmen wrote:
Falstaffxx wrote:I also can't fathom the people saying "no, too much money!" when Carmelo, who underperformed mightily most of the year and shot us out of countless games, makes way more.

wtf are you talking about? just stop while you're already way behind. :roll:


My statement is such basic fact that it's kind crazy you would even argue against it. Did you only watch the last month of the season?
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Re: Felton traded to Knicks; Not matching Lin? (part 2) 

Post#1470 » by Knicks_Fan2 » Sun Jul 15, 2012 8:19 pm

Falstaffxx wrote:
Knicks_Fan2 wrote:
Falstaffxx wrote:Basically the people saying Lin isn't important are just saying "I chose to ignore the actual results on the court and repeat over and over that it wasn't enough sample size."

Carmelo ran us into the ground for most of the year. Lin saved the season. Heads of out asses please?


How exactly did Carmelo run us into the ground? Please, tell me. I recall him playing out of his mind to start the season, got hurt, and our ENTIRE TEAM struggled without a point guard and a hurt Melo. Lin came in, dominated, we needed that, and even played well as Melo came back (Melo wasn't even taking a lot of shots). Then the team struggles, Dantoni fired, and Melo goes on an insane run to end the year. I don't even understand where you're trying to take this thread. Lin was amazing in his 25 games but he played nothing beyond that with Melo putting up ridiculous stats--remember the Celtics games--even in losses (see the Heat game) to close the year. What are you trying to get at?


Most of the year he played poorly despite being the centerpiece of the team. That's how he ran us into the ground.


Oh so he ran us into the ground because he ran us into the ground. Got it.
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Re: Felton traded to Knicks; Not matching Lin? (part 2) 

Post#1471 » by Never Wrong » Sun Jul 15, 2012 8:19 pm

AllanHoustonFan wrote:Jordan Schultz ‏@206Child
Two more sources now telling me Lin is gone. First source seemed adamant but I believe the latter more; mostly because of luxury tax issues.
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it's over.

Lol. Told you guys.
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Re: Felton traded to Knicks; Not matching Lin? (part 2) 

Post#1472 » by Michael_Scott » Sun Jul 15, 2012 8:19 pm

Caller on the radio just said Lin wouldn't even start for Bobcats...lol....
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Re: Felton traded to Knicks; Not matching Lin? (part 2) 

Post#1473 » by Thugger HBC » Sun Jul 15, 2012 8:19 pm

Falstaffxx wrote:I also can't fathom the people saying "no, too much money!" when Carmelo, who underperformed mightily most of the year and shot us out of countless games, makes way more.

I think both are overpaid, but at least one has a body of work to justify it.

The other....... no one knows if he will be a legit starter.
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Re: Felton traded to Knicks; Not matching Lin? (part 2) 

Post#1474 » by Knicks80_20 » Sun Jul 15, 2012 8:19 pm

AllanHoustonFan wrote:Jordan Schultz ‏@206Child
Two more sources now telling me Lin is gone. First source seemed adamant but I believe the latter more; mostly because of luxury tax issues.
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it's over.


It's been over.
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Re: Felton traded to Knicks; Not matching Lin? (part 2) 

Post#1475 » by Falstaffxx » Sun Jul 15, 2012 8:19 pm

langal wrote:I think he means Felton and Kidd are a better "cultural" fit for the team. If someone thinks it's too much $$ - yeah I can understand that. But to say that Felton is basically better for the team smells of something else quite honsetly...

Felton-mania occurred with D'Antoni.


F the "cultural fit." The culture of this team is embarrassing.
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Re: Felton traded to Knicks; Not matching Lin? (part 2) 

Post#1476 » by BayareaKnicks » Sun Jul 15, 2012 8:20 pm

Knicks_Fan2 wrote:
Falstaffxx wrote:Basically the people saying Lin isn't important are just saying "I chose to ignore the actual results on the court and repeat over and over that it wasn't enough sample size."

Carmelo ran us into the ground for most of the year. Lin saved the season. Heads of out asses please?


How exactly did Carmelo run us into the ground? Please, tell me. I recall him playing out of his mind to start the season, got hurt, and our ENTIRE TEAM struggled without a point guard and a hurt Melo. Lin came in, dominated, we needed that, and even played well as Melo came back (Melo wasn't even taking a lot of shots). Then the team struggles, Dantoni fired, and Melo goes on an insane run to end the year. I don't even understand where you're trying to take this thread. Lin was amazing in his 25 games but he played nothing beyond that with Melo putting up ridiculous stats--remember the Celtics games--even in losses (see the Heat game) to close the year. What are you trying to get at?



Lin's production went down because he was forced by Woodson to go thru Melo and Amare. But you can't discount what he did prior to Melo. Dantoni or not, Lin is f'real.
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Re: Felton traded to Knicks; Not matching Lin? (part 2) 

Post#1477 » by kNicksGmen » Sun Jul 15, 2012 8:20 pm

Falstaffxx wrote:
Knicks_Fan2 wrote:
Falstaffxx wrote:Basically the people saying Lin isn't important are just saying "I chose to ignore the actual results on the court and repeat over and over that it wasn't enough sample size."

Carmelo ran us into the ground for most of the year. Lin saved the season. Heads of out asses please?


How exactly did Carmelo run us into the ground? Please, tell me. I recall him playing out of his mind to start the season, got hurt, and our ENTIRE TEAM struggled without a point guard and a hurt Melo. Lin came in, dominated, we needed that, and even played well as Melo came back (Melo wasn't even taking a lot of shots). Then the team struggles, Dantoni fired, and Melo goes on an insane run to end the year. I don't even understand where you're trying to take this thread. Lin was amazing in his 25 games but he played nothing beyond that with Melo putting up ridiculous stats--remember the Celtics games--even in losses (see the Heat game) to close the year. What are you trying to get at?


Most of the year he played poorly despite being the centerpiece of the team. That's how he ran us into the ground.

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Re: Felton traded to Knicks; Not matching Lin? (part 2) 

Post#1478 » by waya » Sun Jul 15, 2012 8:20 pm

Falstaffxx wrote:
KnicksGod wrote:Even if Lin comes back, I feel thoroughly disgusted by Melo.


It unbelievable to me that he would have the gall to call a teammate's contract ridiculous when he makes super-max and hasn't won a damn thing.

:lol: :lol: Some of you guys are ridiculous
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Re: Felton traded to Knicks; Not matching Lin? (part 2) 

Post#1479 » by JBreezeNY » Sun Jul 15, 2012 8:20 pm

howe070523 wrote:So someone agrees with you then you must be right?!!

Alan hahn isn't delusional, you are.


Jesus christ....no what I'm saying is he has the same sentiments that I do about Lin playing best as a sixth man. If you think I'm delusional for saying that & Hahn isn't then you're clearly a moron.
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Re: Felton traded to Knicks; Not matching Lin? (part 2) 

Post#1480 » by king billing » Sun Jul 15, 2012 8:20 pm

KnicksGod wrote:Even if Lin comes back, I feel thoroughly disgusted by Melo.


Maybe he was hating on Morey? A lot of people have been doin that today.

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