Re: Felton traded to Knicks; Not matching Lin? (part 3)

phoenixx · Post #1041 » by **phoenixx** » Mon Jul 16, 2012 12:20 am

what if this is all an elaborate marketing ploy.

get media attention by building up huge drama, get fans on their toes.
then all of a sudden, when things look bleak, match lin's offer, causing people to celebrate by buying knicks' jerseys and merchandise.

very smart, mr. dolan, very smart.

Stannis · Post #1042 » by **Stannis** » Mon Jul 16, 2012 12:20 am

I do not see Lin returning with what Melo and JR Smith said.

CoolKids · Post #1043 » by **CoolKids** » Mon Jul 16, 2012 12:20 am

Nono wrote:
CoolKids wrote:
21shumpst wrote:As opposed to the contract that Amare has. Or the contract that Novak has.
Obviously someone thinks that its a fair contract, because he got offered it.

The rockets also only have one guard uner contract and need to bring something in to give to fans if they cant get dwight. Lin most likely wont live up to that 15 mil in year 3 but he will sell tickets and merch so Houston doesnt have much to lose signing him. Amare is a sunk cost, it was signed years ago his contract shouldnt be a factor for comparison. I see your point with Novak and yes he is over paid. Yes I think we should match the ridiculous contract for Lin as well, in order to give us the best roster we can have but it is still a ridiculous offer.

Lin will be a bargain at 8 mil per year.

Rondos getting paid 10 mill a year. Thats a bargain. 8 mill for Lin? I personally dont think so. But no one can see the future so We wont know till we get tehre.

Post #1044 » by **Thugger HBC** » Mon Jul 16, 2012 12:21 am

devv83 wrote:I got a question. So about three or four days ago melo had a team USA interview and he said that he wants lin back. I watched the video.

Just a few days ago the article about lin feeling frosty to the knicks came out, lin said if it didn't come from me it's. This whole board put it to rest.

How come its different with Melo. We got about 3 interviews of quotes with Melo saying he wants lin back, but you guys ignore those interviews and say things like melo is jealous.

I don't understand

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It's called "fans of opinion".

Not enough fans of the team.

yaboynyp · Post #1045 » by **yaboynyp** » Mon Jul 16, 2012 12:21 am

devv83 wrote:I got a question. So about three or four days ago melo had a team USA interview and he said that he wants lin back. I watched the video.

Just a few days ago the article about lin feeling frosty to the knicks came out, lin said if it didn't come from me it's. This whole board put it to rest.

How come its different with Melo. We got about 3 interviews of quotes with Melo saying he wants lin back, but you guys ignore those interviews and say things like melo is jealous.

I don't understand

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Because Lin is a good guy a nice young man.. And Melo is the Devil in a Blue Knicks Jersey

NOOB77 · Post #1046 » by **NOOB77** » Mon Jul 16, 2012 12:21 am

KnicksGod wrote:... Think about it -- someone is only not worthy of the money they're getting if they're not that good.

If they believed in Lin -- and trust is key to handing your team over to him -- then they wouldn't criticize his contract.

His teammates must believe in him. Instead they're bashing him. It's a sign that we once again have a cancerous roster. It's just sad folks.

So you are saying a 5,5,15 million dollar contract for a guy that has barely played 30 games isn't ridiculous??

Realmatic · Post #1047 » by **Realmatic** » Mon Jul 16, 2012 12:21 am

can anyone post figures of how much luxury tax the knicks were paying during the Isiah years?

knickabocker88 · Post #1048 » by **knickabocker88** » Mon Jul 16, 2012 12:21 am

Can we S&T JR next offseason for either Wilson or Gallo?

EDIT: Forgot about no more S&T

NYKat · Post #1049 » by **NYKat** » Mon Jul 16, 2012 12:21 am

LOL at Knicks fans...

Jeremy Lin forces the team to overpay from the Rockets and gets defended

JR Smith gets underpaid just to come back to the franchise and gets reamed...

you people are so backwards

rammagen · Post #1050 » by **rammagen** » Mon Jul 16, 2012 12:21 am

Nono wrote:
CoolKids wrote:
21shumpst wrote:As opposed to the contract that Amare has. Or the contract that Novak has.
Obviously someone thinks that its a fair contract, because he got offered it.

The rockets also only have one guard uner contract and need to bring something in to give to fans if they cant get dwight. Lin most likely wont live up to that 15 mil in year 3 but he will sell tickets and merch so Houston doesnt have much to lose signing him. Amare is a sunk cost, it was signed years ago his contract shouldnt be a factor for comparison. I see your point with Novak and yes he is over paid. Yes I think we should match the ridiculous contract for Lin as well, in order to give us the best roster we can have but it is still a ridiculous offer.

Lin will be a bargain at 8 mil per year.

again he is not 8 million dollars a year. with the tax it goes up . He is not worth 14 million or honestly 8 million dollars a yr. Is lin a top 10 player in the league is he....
No he is not he had a great run 25 games.....

Jose7 · Post #1051 » by **Jose7** » Mon Jul 16, 2012 12:21 am

yaboynyp wrote:
devv83 wrote:I got a question. So about three or four days ago melo had a team USA interview and he said that he wants lin back. I watched the video.

Just a few days ago the article about lin feeling frosty to the knicks came out, lin said if it didn't come from me it's. This whole board put it to rest.

How come its different with Melo. We got about 3 interviews of quotes with Melo saying he wants lin back, but you guys ignore those interviews and say things like melo is jealous.

I don't understand

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Because Lin is a good guy a nice young man.. And Melo is the Devil in a Blue Knicks Jersey

melo is the illuminate you know.

GoNYK1288 · Post #1052 » by **GoNYK1288** » Mon Jul 16, 2012 12:22 am

rammagen wrote:Hate to say this but AI agree with mwello and JR on this. i don't mind players getting payed but come on now 14 mill a yr for Lin for 25 games and no show in the play offs?
I'll pass. JR while an idiot at least took a pay cut to what he could have made to show he wants to be here. Versus Lin I don't mind he got a deal couldn't care less but he has to play at wade/kidd/mello levels the entire year. He has shown he can't break the press the heat gave him and when he could have played in the playoffs he bailed. Sorry I am hard on the team and Mello and Amare but Lin came away looking clean got payed but he blew his chance in NYC his Agent should shut the f up and realized he robbed Houston on 25 games.
I expected 16 and 7 or 14 and 8 from Lin I'll get that production from Felton at a 1/4 of the cost what does that show you...
And you people over reacting and bawling grow a pair are you a Knick fan or a Lin fan because if you are Lin fan enjoy Houston. Go troll their board and stop talking crap here.
I would sign him because he represents youth but at 14 million dollars a year that has to be production

Lin isn't gett 14m/yr

He's effectively getting 8m/yr

Realmatic · Post #1053 » by **Realmatic** » Mon Jul 16, 2012 12:22 am

what were the luxury tax figures when isiah was around?

ORANGEandBLUE · Post #1054 » by **ORANGEandBLUE** » Mon Jul 16, 2012 12:22 am

SelbyCobra wrote:This is just outright false, KG. Melo's own quote starts with him describing the contract's third year as a "wrench" thrown into the equation. It's pretty clear what he was talking about.

It's really not about the quote. Ton of people have been reporting that there was some bad blood.

drtran117 · Post #1055 » by **drtran117** » Mon Jul 16, 2012 12:22 am

The amount of panic in this thread is over 9000. Carry on.

Stannis · Post #1056 » by **Stannis** » Mon Jul 16, 2012 12:22 am

NYKfan77 wrote:
KnicksGod wrote:... Think about it -- someone is only not worthy of the money they're getting if they're not that good.

If they believed in Lin -- and trust is key to handing your team over to him -- then they wouldn't criticize his contract.

His teammates must believe in him. Instead they're bashing him. It's a sign that we once again have a cancerous roster. It's just sad folks.

So you are saying a 5,5,15 million dollar contract for a guy that has barely played 30 games isn't ridiculous??

It is really 8,8,8.

Lightning25 · Post #1057 » by **Lightning25** » Mon Jul 16, 2012 12:22 am

NYKat wrote:LOL at Knicks fans...

Jeremy Lin forces the team to overpay from the Rockets and gets defended

JR Smith gets underpaid just to come back to the franchise and gets reamed...

you people are so backwards

If Knicks fans were asked to choose between Lin and Smith, I'm pretty sure most of them would take Lin.

DocZaius · Post #1058 » by **DocZaius** » Mon Jul 16, 2012 12:22 am

NYKat wrote:LOL at Knicks fans...

Jeremy Lin forces the team to overpay from the Rockets and gets defended

JR Smith gets underpaid just to come back to the franchise and gets reamed...

you people are so backwards

that's what you get for not making the first offer....

even if Lin rejects it, the fans would not be going batchit like they are right now

ChartFiction · Post #1059 » by **ChartFiction** » Mon Jul 16, 2012 12:23 am

Pharmcat wrote:luxury tax isnt a reason to lose lin

there is no way ny didnt know all the ramifications considering how many cap experts they have

there really has to be another reason behind the scenes

This

Basketball wise it doesn't have an effect on our cap situation and business wise I have to assume that Lin will make quite a bit for Dolan, atleast enough to offset the contract by a large margin.

I just don't understand the reason for not matching unless there is some other variable here.

east · Post #1060 » by **east** » Mon Jul 16, 2012 12:23 am

AllanHoustonFan wrote:
east wrote:Never thought I'd see the day where luxury tax implications kept us from retaining a young player with at least some upside. It sucks to see this franchise let monetary concerns or personal grudges prevent them from retaining Lin who can either be a decent starter or trade piece in the future.

I don't like the precedent this sets if we let Lin go.

Again, this has nothing to do with money and everything to do with Woodson not believing in Lin.

Fit is irrelevant. The kicks over the next three years are hamstrung when it comes to signing or trading for new talent. We should hold onto every asset we have regardless of fit. MSG doesn't charge small market prices so they shouldn't act like a small market club worrying about the luxury tax.