ImageImageImageImageImage

Here are what starting PGs are making

Moderators: j4remi, HerSports85, NoLayupRule, GONYK, Jeff Van Gully, dakomish23, Deeeez Knicks, mpharris36

seren
RealGM
Posts: 24,720
And1: 4,949
Joined: Jul 21, 2002

Here are what starting PGs are making 

Post#1 » by seren » Mon Jul 16, 2012 2:00 pm

This year:

George Hill - 5 years/40 million. 8 million per.
Did not start for Indiana until the very end of last year. Did not start for San Antonio before. Career averages 9.8 ppg, 2.6 rpg, 2.5 apg. Is not considered as a ticket seller.
Goran Dragic - 4 years/34 million. 8.5 million per.
Did not start for Houston until injuries. Did not start in Phoenix before. Career averages: 8.0 ppg, 2.2 rpg, 3.3 apg. Is not considered as a ticket seller.
Other notables:
Mike Conley - 5 years/45 million. 9 million per.
Career averages: 11.9 ppg, 2.9 rpg, 5.4 apg. Is not considered as a ticket seller.

People need to put things in perspective.
User avatar
Kampuchea
RealGM
Posts: 11,347
And1: 9,290
Joined: Oct 20, 2010
Location: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zrFOb_f7ubw
       

Re: Here are what starting PGs are making 

Post#2 » by Kampuchea » Mon Jul 16, 2012 2:01 pm

Raymond Felton makes less and he starts
Image
User avatar
Kampuchea
RealGM
Posts: 11,347
And1: 9,290
Joined: Oct 20, 2010
Location: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zrFOb_f7ubw
       

Re: Here are what starting PGs are making 

Post#3 » by Kampuchea » Mon Jul 16, 2012 2:03 pm

seren, you are making too many threads about these topics.
Image
xsaberx
Bench Warmer
Posts: 1,362
And1: 413
Joined: Feb 15, 2010

Re: Here are what starting PGs are making 

Post#4 » by xsaberx » Mon Jul 16, 2012 2:04 pm

MozTheMan wrote:Raymond Felton makes less and he sucks


fixed
persons
Sophomore
Posts: 161
And1: 2
Joined: Feb 04, 2012

Re: Here are what starting PGs are making 

Post#5 » by persons » Mon Jul 16, 2012 2:04 pm

and your hatin ass don't need to be double posting
kron
Sophomore
Posts: 162
And1: 58
Joined: Mar 09, 2012

Re: Here are what starting PGs are making 

Post#6 » by kron » Mon Jul 16, 2012 2:05 pm

MozTheMan wrote:Raymond Felton makes less and he sucked


:lol: did you watch him play last year? his contract is cheap enough to give it another go though

edit: damn i got sniped :lol:
User avatar
Kampuchea
RealGM
Posts: 11,347
And1: 9,290
Joined: Oct 20, 2010
Location: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zrFOb_f7ubw
       

Re: Here are what starting PGs are making 

Post#7 » by Kampuchea » Mon Jul 16, 2012 2:08 pm

kron wrote:
MozTheMan wrote:Raymond Felton makes less and he sucked


:lol: did you watch him play last year? his contract is cheap enough to give it another go though

edit: damn i got sniped :lol:


last season was rough but Felton has better potential over Lin IMO. They will put up similar stats but felton less turnovers
Image
seren
RealGM
Posts: 24,720
And1: 4,949
Joined: Jul 21, 2002

Re: Here are what starting PGs are making 

Post#8 » by seren » Mon Jul 16, 2012 2:09 pm

MozTheMan wrote:
kron wrote: :lol: did you watch him play last year? his contract is cheap enough to give it another go though

edit: damn i got sniped :lol:


last season was rough but Felton has better potential over Lin IMO. They will put up similar stats but felton less turnovers


At the age of 28, Felton has zero potential. He is what he is.
User avatar
NoLayupRule
Forum Mod - Knicks
Forum Mod - Knicks
Posts: 48,099
And1: 11,028
Joined: Dec 06, 2002
Location: Playoffs Fool!
Contact:

Re: Here are what starting PGs are making 

Post#9 » by NoLayupRule » Mon Jul 16, 2012 2:10 pm

yeah

the contract isn't even that big a deal
darthkiller
Banned User
Posts: 2,201
And1: 2
Joined: Sep 06, 2008

Re: Here are what starting PGs are making 

Post#10 » by darthkiller » Mon Jul 16, 2012 2:25 pm

MozTheMan wrote:
kron wrote:
MozTheMan wrote:Raymond Felton makes less and he sucked


:lol: did you watch him play last year? his contract is cheap enough to give it another go though

edit: damn i got sniped :lol:


last season was rough but Felton has better potential over Lin IMO at being the fattest pg in nba history. They will put up similar stats but felton less turnovers


fixed
User avatar
yaboynyp
Assistant Coach
Posts: 4,099
And1: 206
Joined: Jul 08, 2010
Contact:

Re: Here are what starting PGs are making 

Post#11 » by yaboynyp » Mon Jul 16, 2012 2:27 pm

john Wall 1st pick same year as Lin averaged 18-8-4 he makes 5mil
User avatar
richardhutnik
Banned User
Posts: 22,092
And1: 10
Joined: Oct 13, 2001
Location: Linsanity? What is that?
Contact:

Re: Here are what starting PGs are making 

Post#12 » by richardhutnik » Mon Jul 16, 2012 2:28 pm

seren wrote:This year:

George Hill - 5 years/40 million. 8 million per.
Did not start for Indiana until the very end of last year. Did not start for San Antonio before. Career averages 9.8 ppg, 2.6 rpg, 2.5 apg. Is not considered as a ticket seller.
Goran Dragic - 4 years/34 million. 8.5 million per.
Did not start for Houston until injuries. Did not start in Phoenix before. Career averages: 8.0 ppg, 2.2 rpg, 3.3 apg. Is not considered as a ticket seller.
Other notables:
Mike Conley - 5 years/45 million. 9 million per.
Career averages: 11.9 ppg, 2.9 rpg, 5.4 apg. Is not considered as a ticket seller.

People need to put things in perspective.


Perspective is this: Sample size and salary in 3rd year. How many starting PGs in the NBA make around $15 million/year? How many PGs get $15 million/year based upon the small portfolio Lin has? That is the issue here. And if anyone cares to answer whether or not, after year 3, Lin making $15 million will end up getting even more money than that, that is what needs to be asked.

To say "people need to put things in perspective" means you also need to look at that aspect. When you do that, can you answer whether or not you feel Lin is worth $15 million?

A kicker here, someone can iron out who knows, is if that is what the Knicks look at, but the Rockets end up paying him like 8/8/8 or so over 3 years. At that point, not sure anyone has issues with what Lin would make with the Rockets.
"Politics is the art of looking for trouble, finding it everywhere, diagnosing it incorrectly and applying the wrong remedies." - G. Marx
seren
RealGM
Posts: 24,720
And1: 4,949
Joined: Jul 21, 2002

Re: Here are what starting PGs are making 

Post#13 » by seren » Mon Jul 16, 2012 2:39 pm

richardhutnik wrote:
seren wrote:This year:

George Hill - 5 years/40 million. 8 million per.
Did not start for Indiana until the very end of last year. Did not start for San Antonio before. Career averages 9.8 ppg, 2.6 rpg, 2.5 apg. Is not considered as a ticket seller.
Goran Dragic - 4 years/34 million. 8.5 million per.
Did not start for Houston until injuries. Did not start in Phoenix before. Career averages: 8.0 ppg, 2.2 rpg, 3.3 apg. Is not considered as a ticket seller.
Other notables:
Mike Conley - 5 years/45 million. 9 million per.
Career averages: 11.9 ppg, 2.9 rpg, 5.4 apg. Is not considered as a ticket seller.

People need to put things in perspective.


Perspective is this: Sample size and salary in 3rd year. How many starting PGs in the NBA make around $15 million/year? How many PGs get $15 million/year based upon the small portfolio Lin has? That is the issue here. And if anyone cares to answer whether or not, after year 3, Lin making $15 million will end up getting even more money than that, that is what needs to be asked.

To say "people need to put things in perspective" means you also need to look at that aspect. When you do that, can you answer whether or not you feel Lin is worth $15 million?

A kicker here, someone can iron out who knows, is if that is what the Knicks look at, but the Rockets end up paying him like 8/8/8 or so over 3 years. At that point, not sure anyone has issues with what Lin would make with the Rockets.


Lin will not be making 15 million per year. He will be making 8 million per year.
User avatar
Dave_Dinero_NYK
Junior
Posts: 343
And1: 1
Joined: Dec 17, 2011

Re: Here are what starting PGs are making 

Post#14 » by Dave_Dinero_NYK » Mon Jul 16, 2012 2:45 pm

Just because teams were dumb enough to over pay those guys doesn't mean we should be too, notice those players you named play for teams that haven't won a chip recently (hill did in san antonio because of Duncan and company)
User avatar
Deeeez Knicks
Forum Mod - Knicks
Forum Mod - Knicks
Posts: 49,349
And1: 55,346
Joined: Nov 12, 2004

Re: Here are what starting PGs are making 

Post#15 » by Deeeez Knicks » Mon Jul 16, 2012 2:53 pm

Lins contract really is not that terrible. Pay the man.

If anything its the other contracts that are hurting us...
Mavs
C: Horford | Goga | Paul Reed |
PF: Lauri Markkanen | Randle | Tucker
SF: Trey Murphy | Trent | Anderson | Simone
SG: Vassell | Trent | Livingston
PG: Spida | Mann | Deuce
User avatar
fresko024
Veteran
Posts: 2,685
And1: 459
Joined: Jan 01, 2011
Location: Jersey
       

Re: Here are what starting PGs are making 

Post#16 » by fresko024 » Mon Jul 16, 2012 3:01 pm

...not only does Lin have a small sample size of games played, but he got injured when he did begin to see any playing time...the only thing that would warrant such a huge contract is 'linsanity'...let's be serious, he played in the same system in which Chris Duhon had 22 assists in one game...that being said, i don't see 'linsanity' being that big in Houston...they waived Scola who imo was one of their better players..i see this as a dumb move by the Rockets, i think we can live with Felton...i give him a pass for his play and conditioning last yr...no training camp or offseason for that matter..
Romans 8:1-4
king billing
Senior
Posts: 530
And1: 21
Joined: Dec 06, 2004
Location: Far East

Re: Here are what starting PGs are making 

Post#17 » by king billing » Mon Jul 16, 2012 3:43 pm

MozTheMan wrote:seren, you are making too many threads about these topics.


+1
Never Wrong
Banned User
Posts: 3,780
And1: 496
Joined: Mar 10, 2012
Location: New York, NY
         

Re: Here are what starting PGs are making 

Post#18 » by Never Wrong » Mon Jul 16, 2012 3:45 pm

yaboynyp wrote:john Wall 1st pick same year as Lin averaged 18-8-4 he makes 5mil

Lin averaged 15/6 and made 800k.
User avatar
moocow007
Retired Mod
Retired Mod
Posts: 98,252
And1: 25,713
Joined: Jan 07, 2002
Location: In front of the computer, where else?
       

Re: Here are what starting PGs are making 

Post#19 » by moocow007 » Mon Jul 16, 2012 3:47 pm

seren wrote:This year:

George Hill - 5 years/40 million. 8 million per.
Did not start for Indiana until the very end of last year. Did not start for San Antonio before. Career averages 9.8 ppg, 2.6 rpg, 2.5 apg. Is not considered as a ticket seller.
Goran Dragic - 4 years/34 million. 8.5 million per.
Did not start for Houston until injuries. Did not start in Phoenix before. Career averages: 8.0 ppg, 2.2 rpg, 3.3 apg. Is not considered as a ticket seller.
Other notables:
Mike Conley - 5 years/45 million. 9 million per.
Career averages: 11.9 ppg, 2.9 rpg, 5.4 apg. Is not considered as a ticket seller.

People need to put things in perspective.


The perspective doesn't include potential luxury tax hits or, apparently more importantly, none of them pissed of their respective teams owner. I hear you but showing starting salaries for these guys really don't help...since I doubt too many (sane) people are complaining that $8 million average per year for Lin is outrageous.
king billing
Senior
Posts: 530
And1: 21
Joined: Dec 06, 2004
Location: Far East

Re: Here are what starting PGs are making 

Post#20 » by king billing » Mon Jul 16, 2012 3:47 pm

Kyrie Irving will make a little bit over 5 million in his 2nd year. Jeremy Lin should not be making more than Kyrie Irving.

Return to New York Knicks