Re: Felton traded to Knicks; Not matching Lin? (part 4)

Falstaffxx · Post #1421 » by **Falstaffxx** » Mon Jul 16, 2012 3:26 pm

NoLayupRule wrote:
KnicksGod wrote:Melo officially becomes Marbury to me the moment Lin goes to Houston.

Not a drop better -- in fact, much worse. Marbury never let a top young player leave and essentially endorsed his exit.

Im stunned at how this is melo's fault in some peoples heads

its amazing

It's not Carmelo's fault. Carmelo is a douchebag and he's choosing to highlight his douchebaggery at the wrong time.

AllanHoustonFan · Post #1422 » by **AllanHoustonFan** » Mon Jul 16, 2012 3:27 pm

blumatic wrote:SAS getting owned on 1st take. Skip Kellermen and Marcelus are making complete sense to keep Lin. SAS just doesnt want him there.

He is praying the Knicks get CP3 so he can starphuck some more.

OrangeandBlue20 · Post #1423 » by **OrangeandBlue20** » Mon Jul 16, 2012 3:27 pm

How did Kidd gets classified as a "mentor" once he got to the Knicks? Is it ebcause of his age or that he and Lin have the same roots? WHat in Kidd's past and now present ever made him a mentor to begin with?

The guy is a Hall of Fame point guard and a bad guy. He's a Knick now, so I'll root for the laundry, but I hated him everywhere elese he played, especially with the Nets

Please match Lin now

ChartFiction · Post #1424 » by **ChartFiction** » Mon Jul 16, 2012 3:27 pm

blumatic wrote:SAS getting owned on 1st take. Skip Kellermen and Marcelus are making complete sense to keep Lin. SAS just doesnt want him there.

Saw it. Someone(Kellermen) finally brought up the fact that his acquisition will have no effect on roster flexibility.

Falstaffxx · Post #1425 » by **Falstaffxx** » Mon Jul 16, 2012 3:27 pm

GONYK wrote:
It's not a formal offer you have to make. There is no process to it. It's just on the table as the maximum we can offer.

He can be offered that, and still go out and get other offers. People know this, right?

But we never offered it. Don't be naive. If it had been offered we would know about it. Especially since Dolan would want fans to know he tried.

Post #1426 » by **K_ick_God** » Mon Jul 16, 2012 3:29 pm

It really does sound like Dolan has the personality type such that once someone crosses him or he feels betrayed, he is spiteful and gets into a pissing contest. It's so personal.

So there may not be much hope left unless Charles intervenes. Please discipline your son Charles. He is out of control again.

Felton comes to Dolan's 4th of July party and stuff his fat face ... and Dolan is tickled pink.

There's just no way we're ever getting anywhere with this kind of BS.

Post #1427 » by **GONYK** » Mon Jul 16, 2012 3:29 pm

Falstaffxx wrote:
GONYK wrote:
It's not a formal offer you have to make. There is no process to it. It's just on the table as the maximum we can offer.

He can be offered that, and still go out and get other offers. People know this, right?

But we never offered it. Don't be naive. If it had been offered we would know about it. Especially since Dolan would want fans to know he tried.

What difference does it make? Lin was going to go out shopping anyway.

blumatic · Post #1428 » by **blumatic** » Mon Jul 16, 2012 3:29 pm

AllanHoustonFan wrote:
blumatic wrote:SAS getting owned on 1st take. Skip Kellermen and Marcelus are making complete sense to keep Lin. SAS just doesnt want him there.

He is praying the Knicks get CP3 so he can starphuck some more.

I used to like Stephen A. Now with his 2nd stint with ESPN he is so annoying and emotional. UGH!!!

A starphucker indeed. Just Keep Lin and it the 15 mill the 3rd year. His next contract you make it more reasonable.

Its just one year of a heavy tax (unless im totally wrong about the consequences.)

SonOfMars · Post #1429 » by **SonOfMars** » Mon Jul 16, 2012 3:30 pm

If we match Lin, and run with the 4PG squad...

Will all be well in Fury and Falstaffxx's land?

darthkiller · Post #1430 » by **darthkiller** » Mon Jul 16, 2012 3:30 pm

the knicks wouldnt be the knicks if they dont let 1 of their only 2 young assets restricted free agent go away for nothing

ptsuperfly · Post #1431 » by **ptsuperfly** » Mon Jul 16, 2012 3:31 pm

You're not getting Chris Paul.[/quote]

Not unless you match Lin, then trade him, probably Shumpert, and picks... that's if he wants out of LA.[/quote]

"you're not getting chris paul"? not carved in stone.

lots of ifs but if that's where paul wants to go it can happen. it falls w/in the 3 year window. one title changes perceptions forever. also worth noting is that melo tried to recruit nash and melo mentioned he expects paul in nyc eventually.

why'd u have to match lin?[/quote]
__________________________________________________________ Effed up quote system.

Dude. I said that your best chance of getting CP3 was amnestying Amare, signing Tyson, and trading Billups expiring contract, plus future assets.

I still think you could. WHAT I SAID WAS - your best chance at eliteness is to match Lin, and if he develops into a superstar - great ... if he's not 100% what you expect, use him as a primary piece to cobble an offer together for Chris Paul.

Rocket science? No. Why must I explain this to you.

Post #1432 » by **NoLayupRule** » Mon Jul 16, 2012 3:31 pm

Falstaffxx wrote:
NoLayupRule wrote:
KnicksGod wrote:Melo officially becomes Marbury to me the moment Lin goes to Houston.

Not a drop better -- in fact, much worse. Marbury never let a top young player leave and essentially endorsed his exit.

Im stunned at how this is melo's fault in some peoples heads

its amazing

It's not Carmelo's fault. Carmelo is a douchebag and he's choosing to highlight his douchebaggery at the wrong time.

Oh grow up man

he said its a ridiculous contract, which it is

now hes a douchebag

obviously there is more scapegoating going on here than anywhere in the universe

Synciere · Post #1433 » by **Synciere** » Mon Jul 16, 2012 3:31 pm

Jan_Sobieski wrote:Im being real about this, does this current team get through the Heat even without Lin?

I hardly think Lin would make a difference against the Heat in a playoff series based on previous experiences.

Post #1434 » by **NoLayupRule** » Mon Jul 16, 2012 3:32 pm

OrangeandBlue20 wrote:How did Kidd gets classified as a "mentor" once he got to the Knicks?

Hes always been considered one of the best leaders and basketball minds in the nBA

SmooveMelo · Post #1435 » by **SmooveMelo** » Mon Jul 16, 2012 3:33 pm

KnicksGod wrote:It really does sound like Dolan has the personality type such that once someone crosses him or he feels betrayed, he is spiteful and gets into a pissing contest. It's so personal.

So there may not be much hope left unless Charles intervenes. Please discipline your son Charles. He is out of control again.

Felton comes to Dolan's 4th of July party and stuff his fat face ... and Dolan is tickled pink.

There's just no way we're ever getting anywhere with this kind of BS.

Finally ..you have blamed the right person throughout.

Synciere · Post #1436 » by **Synciere** » Mon Jul 16, 2012 3:33 pm

blumatic wrote:SAS getting owned on 1st take. Skip Kellermen and Marcelus are making complete sense to keep Lin. SAS just doesnt want him there.

I'm watching in my office, remaining completely unproductive, and I think SAS made some arguments that made a lot of sense.

god shammgod · Post #1437 » by **god shammgod** » Mon Jul 16, 2012 3:33 pm

KnicksGod wrote:It really does sound like Dolan has the personality type such that once someone crosses him or he feels betrayed, he is spiteful and gets into a pissing contest. It's so personal.

So there may not be much hope left unless Charles intervenes. Please discipline your son Charles. He is out of control again.

Felton comes to Dolan's 4th of July party and stuff his fat face ... and Dolan is tickled pink.

There's just no way we're ever getting anywhere with this kind of BS.

charles dolan is 85. he just wants to piss comfortably at this point.

Post #1438 » by **K_ick_God** » Mon Jul 16, 2012 3:33 pm

How is a contract ridiculous that everybody saw coming?

The rules allow this. It's a clear loophole with the balloon payment at the end.

Furthermore, it only averages to $8M per over 3 years. That's not high for Lin.

Realmatic · Post #1439 » by **Realmatic** » Mon Jul 16, 2012 3:34 pm

Dolan and his dad have a history of not getting along. James dolan tried to take over the board at cablevision while his dad was still CEO, should tell you what kind of man he is.

NBA Fan 1234 · Post #1440 » by **NBA Fan 1234** » Mon Jul 16, 2012 3:34 pm

Head to part 5, I guess.