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Re: another Lin thread filled with no useful information #6 

Post#421 » by Falstaffxx » Mon Jul 16, 2012 11:23 pm

BigE86 wrote:
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BigE86 wrote:Carmelo is right. Period. The contract is ridiculous for a 20 some odd game stretch. JR is right, 8 mil a year for a kid who hasn't played a season yet would probably make a ton of people in the league resentful. End of discussion about that.


I have never heard of players making public negative statements about a teammate's contract. Never. Not even Eddy Curry's or Jerome James' or Mo Taylor's. And it just so happens that they are saying this about the only Asian player in the league. I think there is racism involved.


If you can't see the unique situation Lin is besides his race than maybe you're living in the wrong era.


I can see more of a unique situation than his race - the fact that teammates are saying things about his contract that I have never heard anyone say about a teammate before. It's just not done. You don't comment negatively on a player's contract. That's mind-bogglingly unique. It doesn't matter that he's making a lot. This is just not something that players publicly say. Can't say for sure, but I think racial stuff is involved.
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Post#422 » by E86 » Mon Jul 16, 2012 11:24 pm

Paco wrote:So how was everyone's day?


Spent my day with Novak at a Klan rally while we watched Melo and JR live stream their New Black Panther rally where they burned an effigy of George Zimmerman and Jeremy Lin.
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Re: another Lin thread filled with no useful information #6 

Post#423 » by ORANGEandBLUE » Mon Jul 16, 2012 11:24 pm

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Well if you count all the boos these guys are gonna get at MSG as part of the discussion, then no it's only just begun.

Only people who should be getting boos are Lin & Dolan

Maybe, but I'm talking about what will happen, not what should. And Melo should have known he was speaking on a touchy subject so I don't really feel sorry for him.
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Re: another Lin thread filled with no useful information #6 

Post#424 » by god shammgod » Mon Jul 16, 2012 11:25 pm

Paco wrote:So how was everyone's day?


:lol: you should be grateful for today. you might look back at this day tomorrow and realize it wasn't so bad.
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Post#425 » by ptsuperfly » Mon Jul 16, 2012 11:25 pm

Shpati21 wrote:
Jay10 wrote:king troll:

the knicks can't win with carmelo being the guy, yet he's making it seem as if he's saying jeremy is the guy that will take the knicks to a championship.

Can't say that he isn't.



I think because he's so clutch you could win a title with Melo ... he needs to play complete games in the regular season, and you need to get Amare out of the paint, and surround him with defenders and satellite shooters.

Kidd, JR, Novak, Tyson, Camby, Shumpert all fit that mold. You need Battier and Ray Allen, and Wilson Chandler.

... you need spacing and a PG that can bomb threes, or teams sag in on Melo.

Amare has to change as a player, or it won't work. He needs to become more Bosh-esque. Add range and defense.

You need the right team around him, but I believe Melo is championship calibre.
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Post#426 » by ptsuperfly » Mon Jul 16, 2012 11:26 pm

BigE86 wrote:
Paco wrote:So how was everyone's day?


Spent my day with Novak at a Klan rally while we watched Melo and JR live stream their New Black Panther rally where they burned an effigy of George Zimmerman and Jeremy Lin.



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Re: another Lin thread filled with no useful information #6 

Post#427 » by K_ick_God » Mon Jul 16, 2012 11:26 pm

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Maybe. I still don't get why the Knicks should be upset with Lin.

If anything Knicks should be upset with Houston. In that case Dolan would typically let his wallet speak for his pride and match.

Maybe this is all a smoke screen to F with Houston. Dolan doesn't give a crap about the fans and thinks we are all morons. If we get toyed with in the process he wouldnt care



Maybe he feels Lin was in on the ruse?

I don't know. Trust seems to have been breached here.

It could be perceived trust more than real.

Yankees were able to keep A-Rod but knowing our luck, this thing is dead in the water.

I know someone like Deuce would tell me I'm imagining all of this, but probably not. Felton trade seems rushed to completion, all these sources saying it's doubtful we match. LOTS of smoke here now. Got to be some fire.

This is not really parallel to the Dwight news because the Magic were just not revealing what they were doing or thinking. The Knicks, on the other hand, are essentially communicating to us with the Felton deal and with sources who have been alerted to what's going on.

I'm just hoping for an 11th Hour ... literally ... change of heart.
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Post#428 » by ORANGEandBLUE » Mon Jul 16, 2012 11:26 pm

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I can see more of a unique situation than his race - the fact that teammates are saying things about his contract that I have never heard anyone say about a teammate before. It's just not done. You don't comment negatively on a player's contract. That's mind-bogglingly unique. It doesn't matter that he's making a lot. This is just not something that players publicly say. Can't say for sure, but I think racial stuff is involved.

Maybe a class thing too? I'm admittedly ignorant about this, but wasn't Lin's family relatively wealthy growing up? Maybe guys who had it tougher resent him for not really 'suffering' for the money.
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Re: another Lin thread filled with no useful information #6 

Post#429 » by ibraheim718 » Mon Jul 16, 2012 11:26 pm

god shammgod wrote:
Paco wrote:So how was everyone's day?


:lol: you should be grateful for today. you might look back at this day tomorrow and realize it wasn't so bad.


:lol: I definitely won't be around manana..
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Re: another Lin thread filled with no useful information #6 

Post#430 » by ShotgunNitty » Mon Jul 16, 2012 11:26 pm

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Well if you count all the boos these guys are gonna get at MSG as part of the discussion, then no it's only just begun.

Only people who should be getting boos are Lin & Dolan

Maybe, but I'm talking about what will happen, not what should. And Melo should have known he was speaking on a touchy subject so I don't really feel sorry for him.

I agree (not the Melo part) but Melo did nothing wrong IMO the media and fans made it bigger than what it was.
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Post#431 » by bigfnjoe96 » Mon Jul 16, 2012 11:27 pm

WOW this subject has now reached monumental proportions.



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Re: another Lin thread filled with no useful information #6 

Post#432 » by NBA Fan 1234 » Mon Jul 16, 2012 11:27 pm

god shammgod wrote:
Paco wrote:So how was everyone's day?


:lol: you should be grateful for today. you might look back at this day tomorrow and realize it wasn't so bad.

:banghead:

I know. Easy way to solve problem -- give everyone a one day ban if they mention Lin lol.
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Post#433 » by E86 » Mon Jul 16, 2012 11:27 pm

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I can see more of a unique situation than his race - the fact that teammates are saying things about his contract that I have never heard anyone say about a teammate before. It's just not done. You don't comment negatively on a player's contract. That's mind-bogglingly unique. It doesn't matter that he's making a lot. This is just not something that players publicly say. Can't say for sure, but I think racial stuff is involved.


Every single comment Melo has made about Lin has been that he is a promising player that can help the team win. You're out of your mind.
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Re: another Lin thread filled with no useful information #6 

Post#434 » by ibraheim718 » Mon Jul 16, 2012 11:27 pm

Paco wrote:
god shammgod wrote:
Paco wrote:So how was everyone's day?


:lol: you should be grateful for today. you might look back at this day tomorrow and realize it wasn't so bad.

:banghead:

I know. Easy way to solve problem -- give everyone a one day ban lol.


Don't worry the site will crash.
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Re: another Lin thread filled with no useful information #6 

Post#435 » by Falstaffxx » Mon Jul 16, 2012 11:28 pm

BigE86 wrote:
Falstaffxx wrote:
I can see more of a unique situation than his race - the fact that teammates are saying things about his contract that I have never heard anyone say about a teammate before. It's just not done. You don't comment negatively on a player's contract. That's mind-bogglingly unique. It doesn't matter that he's making a lot. This is just not something that players publicly say. Can't say for sure, but I think racial stuff is involved.


Every single comment Melo has made about Lin has been that he is a promising player that can help the team win. You're out of your mind.


I'm definitely not out of my mind. Could be wrong. Your responses are silly though.
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Re: another Lin thread filled with no useful information #6 

Post#436 » by ptsuperfly » Mon Jul 16, 2012 11:28 pm

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AllanHoustonFan wrote:
KnicksGod wrote:These stories that people come up with -- me included -- can sometimes be off base.

We don't really know if we're not there. In fact, it's very difficult to say what's going on from a distance.

However, the thing that the Rockets fan posted -- about how Morey duped us into believing the offer was low and then we added contracts and they pumped up the offer -- it does seem to add up.

If so, how could the Knicks do that? It's like amateur hour. You have to pay attention to details and make sure things are official. Just crazy that we could lose Lin over that kind of trickery.

Hate to say it, but Isiah still has influence in the front office and we all know how smart he is.


I know for a fact that the Nuggets' front office won't deal with the Rockets at all, because they've pulled out of deals and other BS... they play dirty pool.

Not only that, but the Rockets actually did a deal with us to add to our salary, then raised the offer.

It's probably frowned upon in NBA circles. Teams don't try to screw each other in broad daylight like that.
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Re: another Lin thread filled with no useful information #6 

Post#437 » by Im Coming Home » Mon Jul 16, 2012 11:29 pm

Rumors, that is all its been since the Felton trade went through, ALL RUMORS FROM "SOURCES" people calm down please, NOTHING factual has come out since the Felton trade. Its the media turning this into a circus and controlling us, and others, making it Melo vs. Lin, for no reason.
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Re: another Lin thread filled with no useful information #6 

Post#438 » by Falstaffxx » Mon Jul 16, 2012 11:29 pm

Like omg! Someone said "race!" It's impossible! Couldn't be!
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Post#439 » by Butterss » Mon Jul 16, 2012 11:30 pm

KnicksGod wrote:The last time I felt like this was September 11, 2001 when I woke up and turned on the TV.

Wow, you took that way too far. Your comparing losing a sports player to thousands of people losing their lives. That's a little disappointing coming from a site admin. Idk what should be done, but you should definitely be relieved of your duties for a while
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Post#440 » by E86 » Mon Jul 16, 2012 11:31 pm

Falstaffxx wrote:Like omg! Someone said "race!" It's impossible! Couldn't be!


Yeah, I remember when all those dudes were talking crap about Yao. Oh, wait. They weren't. Why? Yao was actually a good player who proved he was a good player and deserved a contract.

couldn't be amiright?

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