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Jeremy Lin's Contract Saga: Part VII

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Re: Jeremy Lin's Contract Saga: Part VII 

Post#41 » by wasted_101 » Tue Jul 17, 2012 4:22 am

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Post#42 » by Knicks80_20 » Tue Jul 17, 2012 4:22 am

AmazingJason wrote:SAS can be in the South Pole and I'd still hear him.


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Re: Jeremy Lin's Contract Saga: Part VII 

Post#43 » by NYKNICKPLAYA » Tue Jul 17, 2012 4:22 am

KingzAndQueenz wrote:Does anyone else think we got Ray Felton as a decoy in order to destroy Stephen A. Smith? Think about it; it makes a lot of sense.

Bring Felton in, Stephen A. Smith gets right to it and announces all over ESPN that his sources (his grandmother) have said that we are not signing Lin. When we finally do sign Lin, everyone will hate Stephen A. even more and no one will listen to him. STEPHEN A. SMITH WILL BE GONE FOR GOOD!



I think so. I think that was the plan. DESTROY STEPHEN A.
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Re: Jeremy Lin's Contract Saga: Part VII 

Post#44 » by ibraheim718 » Tue Jul 17, 2012 4:22 am

SO who else looked good in the summer league?

Did any of you see that youngbuck Jelinek? Dallas was definitely hiding him... but I saw him. Great little prospect... I was impressed.
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Re: Jeremy Lin's Contract Saga: Part VII 

Post#45 » by goshjosh » Tue Jul 17, 2012 4:25 am

When you guys say the Knicks will match at the last minute, do you mean that literally?
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Re: Jeremy Lin's Contract Saga: Part VII 

Post#46 » by 21shumpst » Tue Jul 17, 2012 4:25 am

ibraheim718 wrote:SO who else looked good in the summer league?

Did any of you see that youngbuck Jelinek? Dallas was definitely hiding him... but I saw him. Great little prospect... I was impressed.

Motiejunas looks pretty badass. Wouldn't mind having him as our 4. Stat for Donatas. Get it done Donnie!
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Re: Jeremy Lin's Contract Saga: Part VII 

Post#47 » by Anotha Knicks fan » Tue Jul 17, 2012 4:26 am

I just want to get the next 24 hours over with. I honestly feel a little better than I did yesterday. You all could call me a nancy, or whatever. F Yall. Too cool for school with them jumping off bridge comments. I see Lin as a quality player. It'd be a shame to lose him over nothing.

HE BETTER SHOW UP READY TO BALL THIS SEASON THOUGH... BETTER WORK ON HIS GAME AND ISH... We already have a primadonna on the team. We don't need two.

she's currently touring in Europe.
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Post#48 » by NYKNICKPLAYA » Tue Jul 17, 2012 4:26 am

Never in a million years did I think matching Lin or not (Knicks choice) would resemble the Melo trade chase!!!!!!!!!
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Re: Jeremy Lin's Contract Saga: Part VII 

Post#49 » by ibraheim718 » Tue Jul 17, 2012 4:27 am

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ibraheim718 wrote:SO who else looked good in the summer league?

Did any of you see that youngbuck Jelinek? Dallas was definitely hiding him... but I saw him. Great little prospect... I was impressed.

Motiejunas looks pretty badass. Wouldn't mind having him as our 4. Stat for Donatas. Get it done Donnie!


Yeah I like the amount of confidence he was playing with. But that Jelinek kid's game was smoooottthhh and the best form on a jumper I've seen in a long time. Where's Rajo? Give me the scouting report on that fool. :lol:
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Re: Jeremy Lin's Contract Saga: Part VII 

Post#50 » by Besart19 » Tue Jul 17, 2012 4:27 am

Kaman/K-Mart
Nowitzki/Brand
Marion/Jones
Mayo/Redd
Collison/Brooks

How can Mavs end up, 2 weeks after they looked hopeless!!
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Post#51 » by Knicksrule2k4 » Tue Jul 17, 2012 4:27 am

How many LeBron threads were there? 13?
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Post#52 » by Grinditout » Tue Jul 17, 2012 4:28 am

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Re: Jeremy Lin's Contract Saga: Part VII 

Post#53 » by KnicksChamps » Tue Jul 17, 2012 4:28 am

Knicksrule2k4 wrote:How many LeBron threads were there? 13?


I believe 16
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Re: Jeremy Lin's Contract Saga: Part VII 

Post#54 » by AmazingJason » Tue Jul 17, 2012 4:28 am

Besart19 wrote:
Shpati21 wrote:
Red Vines wrote:Am I the only one who thinks the Knicks might be trying to deal Stat right now?

Very possible.


Stat, Shump plus 1st rounder for Howard or Chris Paul

Stat + 1st rounder + filler for Dirk

Stat for Turkoglu + J-Rich and 1st rounder

Stat + Felton/Lin + 1st rounder for Paul + filler

there are still some chances to trade him... but I think that the FO will give him the chance to prove himself he can play with Melo and Tyson at least until Feb deadline


We can use Amare to bring Fields back :)
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Re: Jeremy Lin's Contract Saga: Part VII 

Post#55 » by Knicks_Fan2 » Tue Jul 17, 2012 4:29 am

SelbyCobra wrote:You guys are reading waaaaaay too much into Melo's comments.

The same way you were reading waaaaaay too much into them when the initial "ridiculous" quote came out.


I respectfully disagree. At this point, Melo isn't going to speak impromptu and instead provided quotes to one journalist in likely a controlled environment to ensure he said exactly what he was supposed to say. He never had to mention what Dolan wanted.
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Re: Jeremy Lin's Contract Saga: Part VII 

Post#56 » by ibraheim718 » Tue Jul 17, 2012 4:29 am

Besart19 wrote:Kaman/K-Mart
Nowitzki/Brand
Marion/Jones
Mayo/Redd
Collison/Brooks

How can Mavs end up, 2 weeks after they looked hopeless!!


Dayyummm.. forgot about Brand. They look nice.
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Re: Jeremy Lin's Contract Saga: Part VII 

Post#57 » by 21shumpst » Tue Jul 17, 2012 4:29 am

ibraheim718 wrote:
21shumpst wrote:
ibraheim718 wrote:SO who else looked good in the summer league?

Did any of you see that youngbuck Jelinek? Dallas was definitely hiding him... but I saw him. Great little prospect... I was impressed.

Motiejunas looks pretty badass. Wouldn't mind having him as our 4. Stat for Donatas. Get it done Donnie!


Yeah I like the amount of confidence he was playing with. But that Jelinek kid's game was smoooottthhh and the best form on a jumper I've seen in a long time. Where's Rajo? Give me the scouting report on that fool. :lol:

After a strong campaign in his first season seeing significant playing time in the ACB and a promising performance at the 2011 adidas Eurocamp, David Jelinek appears to have taken a step back in his final season upon becoming automatically eligible for the NBA draft. The perimeter-oriented Jelinek continues to see significant minutes in the ACB, but has struggled to score efficiently all season long.

An average athlete with just decent size and length for a NBA shooting guard, Jelinek's perceived value at the NBA level has always been rooted in his ability to knock down shots from the perimeter. Connecting on some 46% of his three point attempts last season, his ability to stretch the floor and knock down open spot-up shots offered some intrigue. This season, Jelinek is shooting just 32% from beyond the arc, and has gone from shooting 52% in catch and shoot situations to connecting on just 29% according to Synergy Sports Technology. He doesn't seem to be shooting with the same fluidity and reliable follow-through we saw from him last season, lofting the ball at the rim from deep and short arming shots with a hand in his face, often coming up well short as a result.

Considering most of Jelinek's touches come on kick outs to the perimeter or when he's running off of screens—and just how efficient he shot the ball last season—such a dip in reliability is very significant. Lacking great quickness and ball-handling ability, Jelinek is not one to make plays off the dribble consistently, and is shooting only 41% from 2-point range (identical to last season) in the very physical ACB league due to his skinny frame and lack of explosiveness around the rim. The Czech wing been at his best this season when defenders have over-aggressively closed him out or trailed him as he runs off screens, as he's looked much more in rhythm pulling up for a jump shot from the midrange than he has off the catch.

Given his average physical tools, Jelinek doesn't create much offense for his teammates, but he's not selfish either. His struggles from the perimeter are not a result of him forcing the issue, and he willingly swings the ball instead of trying to re-find his stroke.

Defensively, Jelinek has shown some improvement this season. He still lacks the lateral quickness to be able to defend his position at the NBA level, but he's played with improved intensity this season. Often the target of on and off ball screens, Jelinek lacks a degree of strength and toughness fighting through contact, but does a decent job getting a hand in the face of shooters and not ball-watching on the weakside, something he did regularly last season. He'll need to get stronger and learn to deal with physical play if he wants to become a more complete defensive player in the European game down the road, but he is not giving up as much dribble penetration as he did in his first season as a rotation player in the ACB.

After a promising 2011 season, David Jelinek seemed to be turning the corner as a prospect. His play this season has certainly given scouts pause, as his effectiveness from the perimeter has coming crashing back down the earth. Such a dip couldn't have come at a worse time for Jelinek's NBA prospects, as he's automatically eligible for the 2012 draft, but if he can rediscover his touch, he could certainly emerge as a valuable role-player once again in the ACB down the road.

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Re: Jeremy Lin's Contract Saga: Part VII 

Post#58 » by KingzAndQueenz » Tue Jul 17, 2012 4:29 am

Knicks loooooooooooooove drama so much. They love being at the center of attention.

Even when I play 2k12, I remember the commentators saying something along the lines of: Knicks love to be at the top of headlines and they certainly have with that move (trading for Carmelo)
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Re: Jeremy Lin's Contract Saga: Part VII 

Post#59 » by SmooveMelo » Tue Jul 17, 2012 4:30 am

Besart19 wrote:Kaman/K-Mart
Nowitzki/Brand
Marion/Jones
Mayo/Redd
Collison/Brooks

How can Mavs end up, 2 weeks after they looked hopeless!!


Wait they got K-Mart?
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Re: Jeremy Lin's Contract Saga: Part VII 

Post#60 » by Besart19 » Tue Jul 17, 2012 4:30 am

The Knicks FO have to make a choice... Stat or Lin! If they can somehow trade him next year, then Lin will stay here even after that 3rd year!! Grunnie is dead busy right now!!
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