Jeremy Lin's Contract Saga: Part VII

[CANiLIVE]

Why ain't amare being talked about in possible future trades to free up cap in 3 years.

[Deeeez Knicks]

As much as I think the Knicks/media are F’ing with everyone’s head, it is still the Knicks. They will mess this up somehow.

I wish I didn’t have to work so I could just Jason Kidd my way through to midnight.

[Falstaffxx]

I think "Melo is scumbag" is actually an important point to make about the Knicks. If he is, that's something that's going to cast a shadow over at least next 3 years. By the way, I don't think that's something KnicksGod ever said. I sure did though!

I know it was who posted it. I was replying to you. That was the straightforward point.

And I AM in fact making a point about Knicks basketball.

People are drawing conclusions about the Knicks organization and its players over something that has not happen.

Knicks were ALWAYS going to take 3 days to match. There was ALWAYS the possibility and likelihood Lin was going to get a poison pill offer sheet (he didn't get the worst one possible) and the Knicks knew the tax implications of Lin's free agency status in February when the break out occurred.

A reasonable position advocated by many here is that NOTHING has changed or happened over the last few days - that the Knicks always knew the implications before the particulars and have probably know what they were going to do all along.

But some fans still want to believe the "sources" and wholly and wildly swing their opinions based on each new "source" tweet.

Knicks knew EVERY permutation about this scenario MONTHS ago. The things like the Bird Rights ruling and what Houston could ACTUALLY offer in a REAL offer sheet were all calculated - it was just a matter of what scenario - a, b, c, d, e, etc. presented itself.

The point of my Sunday prediction about exactly what KG would be posting today is to point something about relevant to the KNICKS - that there is no reason at this moment to feel any differently about the KNicks organization now than you did on Thursday of last week.

If yo don't get the relevance of what I'm trying to point out and how is pertain to the KNICKS, I'm not sure what else I can do to help you.

It still seems as if this is about KnicksGod.

[Red Vines]

Oh please. It's a joke about someone being so in love with their favorite player that they put a wig on him and take it to another level.

If my avatar was a black person and I was upset about a black guy not being brought back, I'm sure you would have made the same joke.

There used to be a pic of Isiah and Marbury as a bride and groom, same idea.

[VirginiaKnickFan]

This is what I do not get. What part of Woodson's system does make Felton a better fit? Does he like his PGs overweight?

Well collectively Woodson and his mentor Isaiah have typically been involved with guys that have a lot of have a lot of swag, and like to dribble a lot and take difficult outside shots outside of the flow of the offense.

Marbury
Crawford
Nate
JR Smith
Melo
Felton

Chuckers?

[13th Man]

For those concerned with marketability, here's what MSG President Scott O'Neill said last season:

“When Linsanity hit, it was like nothing I have ever experienced this or any other business. There has never been anything like it. At one point, 45% of all Knicks merchandise sold in The Garden was connected to Jeremy. And that was after just two weeks. We saw a 2000% increase in our online video views. Our television ratings doubled. When compared against any other league-wide measurable, be it sales, page views, you name it, the gap between us and anyone else was unprecedented.”

I don't think Knicks brass are doubting Lin's off the court value that much.

For this reason I cannot see them not matching. I think that Dolan was going to sign Felton anyways, from what I've been reading they had met up on the 4th of July. I think this right here waiting unitl the last minute to sign is just a scare tactic to

1) delay the Rockets as much as possible and get them sweating and

2) Get Jeremy Lin to sweat a bit as well and also give him a slap on the wrist as to say don't take us for granted.

In the end the right thing to do is to re-sign him and they know it as well.

[Falstaffxx]

Oh please. It's a joke about someone being so in love with their favorite player that they put a wig on him and take it to another level.

If my avatar was a black person and I was upset about a black guy not being brought back, I'm sure you would have made the same joke.

There used to be a pic of Isiah and Marbury as a bride and groom, same idea.

That's not the same idea at all. That's a caricature. What you did was look at a picture of an Asian woman and say it's the Asian man we happen to be discussing with a wig on. That's offensive.

[K_ick_God]

Why not just offer Shumpert with Amar'e to try to dump Amar'e?

Knicks also have at least two first-round picks before the poison pill year takes effect. If you have to incentivize a team to help you out of your poison pill year, you do it by throwing in young players.

Then there is the stretch provision, which would cut Lin's cap hit in half if I'm not mistaken.

[21shumpst]

Sounds to me like in terms of basketball, they don't want him back; like if they do bring him back it's because of his fan appeal.

Looking back at it all:

1) It seemed as if Lin wasn't that much of a priority. We looked into every other option other than Lin, but they didn't work out...and we always had the backup of matching the original, reported deal from Houston.

2) Morey outsmarted us again. He molested us in the T-Mac trade, he molested us in the Camby trade, and he may potentially molest us with Lin. We based all of our moves and decision-making on the terms of the original deal, and then he changes it to the poison-pill contact. Morey wants Lin. He's not an idiot; he knows Lin's not only good, but his ethnicity is a cash cow (like Yao).

3) The other wrench in the situation was the ability to get Felton. Let's face it, Felton is much more of a Woodson PG than Lin is, and management may believe Felton is a better fit for this squad. Felton was told they weren't pursuing Lin anymore - verbally confirmed by Felton himself - and was likely promised the starting job.

What exactly makes a PG a Woodson PG? You do know that Fatty was run out of town by Larry Brown, whose offense is very similar to Woody's.

[Red Vines]

There used to be a pic of Isiah and Marbury as a bride and groom, same idea.

That's not the same idea at all. That's a caricature. What you did was look at a picture of an Asian woman and say it's the Asian man we happen to be discussing with a wig on. That's offensive.

No it was Marbury's wedding picture and Isiah's face was put in, that's not a caricature. That you want so bad for me to be racist shows a lot about your agenda.

[frogfood]

Why ain't amare being talked about in possible future trades to free up cap in 3 years.

same reason why are we not talking about unicorns. both are fantasies

[ORANGEandBLUE]

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Well collectively Woodson and his mentor Isaiah have typically been involved with guys that have a lot of have a lot of swag, and like to dribble a lot and take difficult outside shots outside of the flow of the offense.

Marbury
Crawford
Nate
JR Smith
Melo
Felton

Chuckers?

Yeah, and even if Melo is totally innocent in all this, it doesn't bode well for him, because his biggest flaw is that he's too much like those other players. I doubt he'll overcome that flaw under a coach who encourages guys to take difficult outside shots, as long as they pump their jerseys a few times and scowl as they run back on defense.

[don't panac]

If my avatar was a black person and I was upset about a black guy not being brought back, I'm sure you would have made the same joke.

There used to be a pic of Isiah and Marbury as a bride and groom, same idea.

That's not the same idea at all. That's a caricature. What you did was look at a picture of an Asian woman and say it's the Asian man we happen to be discussing with a wig on. That's offensive.

well, some of the posters here are not exactly subtle in their racism...

[Knicks80_20]

Why ain't amare being talked about in possible future trades to free up cap in 3 years.

same reason why are we not talking about unicorns. both are fantasies

If Joe Johnson can be traded, Amare as an expiring can also be traded.

[Red Vines]

well, some of the posters here are not exactly subtle in their racism...

If you're referring to me, that's offensive.

[Deeeez Knicks]

Why not just offer Shumpert with Amar'e to try to dump Amar'e?

Knicks also have at least two first-round picks before the poison pill year takes effect. If you have to incentivize a team to help you out of your poison pill year, you do it by throwing in young players.

Then there is the stretch provision, which would cut Lin's cap hit in half if I'm not mistaken.

That is another example of why I don't think this is about money if the Knicks don't match.

[Falstaffxx]

There used to be a pic of Isiah and Marbury as a bride and groom, same idea.

That's not the same idea at all. That's a caricature. What you did was look at a picture of an Asian woman and say it's the Asian man we happen to be discussing with a wig on. That's offensive.

No it was Marbury's wedding picture and Isiah's face was put in, that's not a caricature. That you want so bad for me to be racist shows a lot about your agenda.

I'm amazed that you can't see the difference between those two scenarios. And it's not that I "want so bad for you to be a racist," it's that I'd prefer you didn't say blatantly racist things to me as part of your strategy for mocking me. I may not continue this conversation, because you're to stupid to understand what I'm saying, but really man.

[Jay10]

Why ain't amare being talked about in possible future trades to free up cap in 3 years.

i honestly see the knicks adding raymond or jeremy to an amar'e trade to get rid of his contract.

[don't panac]

Why ain't amare being talked about in possible future trades to free up cap in 3 years.

same reason why are we not talking about unicorns. both are fantasies

If Joe Johnson can be traded, Amare as an expiring can also be traded.

word.
and the same goes for a jeremy lin who has a 1 year 15 mil contract

[Jan_Sobieski]

Why ain't amare being talked about in possible future trades to free up cap in 3 years.

He be one of the only real dudes left in the game.