Jeremy Lin's Contract Saga: Part VII

juxtaposition · Post #941 » by **juxtaposition** » Tue Jul 17, 2012 3:58 pm

Are we starting shump vs lin now?

bigfnjoe96 · Post #942 » by **bigfnjoe96** » Tue Jul 17, 2012 3:59 pm

juxtaposition wrote:Are we starting shump vs lin now?

It's been Lin V basically the whole roster for the last 2 days...

Falstaffxx · Post #943 » by **Falstaffxx** » Tue Jul 17, 2012 3:59 pm

mpharris36 wrote:
GoNYK1288 wrote:
mpharris36 wrote:so wait a second...25 games of Lin and you can call someone rediculous for thinking Shumpert who proved all season he is a legit starting SG as a rookie is ridiculous?

I think Lin is good but I am ridiculous to think Shumpert is better?

I love Shump, but he finished last season with a PER of 10.83. Lin's was 19.97. Whether you like PER or not, or you think the sample size is too small, that's a pretty large discrepancy.

His defense is much better, but I don't think it makes up for the offensive efficiency Lin displayed.

And that is your opinion to think so and I will not knock it.

But IMO with Melo and Amare getting most of the touches offensively "offensive effeciency" is not going to be that huge for the knics.

PER is a flawed statistic because it doesn't take into account many of the important defensive statistics.

But you have every right to think that. My opinion is that the offensive system and team we are building here...shumpert is more important for a championship than Lin.

Shumpert's mixed results offensively were more because his skills aren't developed than because of touches. He showed some flashes, and he may be able to develop those skills and become a complete player. If not, he'll still be a good role player (assuming a complete recovery from from injury). But the thing is, Lin was a straight up impact player last year. It shouldn't be debated. He was. You can't put Shumpert's season in the same category as his.

Red Vines · Post #944 » by **Red Vines** » Tue Jul 17, 2012 4:00 pm

I apologize if anyone construed that joke as racist, it was not meant as that.

NYK210 · Post #945 » by **NYK210** » Tue Jul 17, 2012 4:01 pm

bigfnjoe96 wrote:
juxtaposition wrote:Are we starting shump vs lin now?

It's been Lin V basically the whole roster for the last 2 days...

have we done Lin vs Kurt Thomas yet? :lol:

CharlesOakley · Post #946 » by **CharlesOakley** » Tue Jul 17, 2012 4:01 pm

So Kris Huphries is worth 24 million for two years but Lin couldn't possibly be worth 25 million for three?

C'mon! His rebounding is partially due to playing next to (or without) Lopez. He is a decent player. There is no reason to think that Lin wouldn't have at least the same impact on the court.

Falstaffxx · Post #947 » by **Falstaffxx** » Tue Jul 17, 2012 4:01 pm

Red Vines wrote:I apologize if anyone construed that joke as racist, it was not meant as that.

"You're sorry if anyone construed it that way?" What a fake apology. Can we just stop.

ITGM · Post #948 » by **ITGM** » Tue Jul 17, 2012 4:02 pm

I wish Dave Chappelle was still doing sketch comedies. I could seriously see him doing a press conference as Dolan.

"Ladies and Gentlemen, members of the press, and Mr Kim's nail salon. Tonight we have reached a seminal decision on the Jeremy Lin situation. As you know, we had until tonight to match Houston's contract. And after a long deliberation we have concluded that the Knicks organization will not... WILL NOT EVER LET THIS **** GO. Surprise b*tchez!!! **** is you crazy. Do you know how much money I make off this mothafkka. Hea hea hea. I brought two spaceships that went to Mars, b*tchez... Spaceships!! Marrrrrssss!! Dolan is living for the ciitttyyyyy."

adrenaLINe · Post #949 » by **adrenaLINe** » Tue Jul 17, 2012 4:02 pm

GONYK wrote:
13th Man wrote:I'm getting tired of idiot media members trying to spin Lin's contract making it seem as though he has to live up to expectations of a 15M/yr player. Logically, spread over 3 years he is really a 8M/yr player but they seem to keep ignoring the fact that he's only making 5M each for the first 2 years.

SAS has been pullling the same bs but stretching it even further to make it seem as though Lin will be a 30M player.

Not only that, but we have 2 full seasons where we are paying him $5M/yr to evaluate whether or not he is worth that third season.

Where is the risk?

risk is

Lin not wanting to play here because of all the drama... from the media, owner, and players

I want him as far away from the New York Media... so SAS can only biatch about Lin 2 times a year when the Rox and Knicks meet up...

sorry to the Knicks fans that want him here, and have to put up with the drama.... to the haters they should be happy if Lin goes...

papiculo · Post #950 » by **papiculo** » Tue Jul 17, 2012 4:02 pm

AllanHoustonFan wrote:
VirginiaKnickFan wrote:
AllanHoustonFan wrote:Sup guys. What did I miss?

Not much, the only we still know is we are stuck with this PG for 4 years.

Wait, we signed Felton for 4yrs? WTF? When did this happen? :banghead:

Post #951 » by **mpharris36** » Tue Jul 17, 2012 4:02 pm

I am not going to get into Lin vs Shumpert battle. If I had it my way they both would be on the team starting next year. But thats not my decision to make.

I was simply pointing out that when a poster said maybe we could trade amare to avoid the luxury tax and add shumpert as a piece to make someone take him.

I simply suggested that my opinion that for what the knicks are currently building and there system Shumpert is more important and I believe he will be a better player.

At the end of the day its such a small sample size for both players it is really anyones guess. Both are good young players though...i just think shumpert d is so valuable to this team,

AmazingJason · Post #952 » by **AmazingJason** » Tue Jul 17, 2012 4:02 pm

NYK210 wrote:
bigfnjoe96 wrote:
juxtaposition wrote:Are we starting shump vs lin now?

It's been Lin V basically the whole roster for the last 2 days...

have we done Lin vs Kurt Thomas yet?

Alan Hahn reported that Thomas looked at Lin last season with a crazy eye.

Dantares · Post #953 » by **Dantares** » Tue Jul 17, 2012 4:03 pm

I am sick of the Rockets always owning us in trades. Just match the offer to screw them over so they stay in mediocre zone and get another lotto pick in the 10-14 range again.

seren · Post #954 » by **seren** » Tue Jul 17, 2012 4:03 pm

We are all waiting for Isiah to make up his mind. He is weighing every angle people. Just have some patience.

Post #955 » by **GONYK** » Tue Jul 17, 2012 4:04 pm

adrenaLINe wrote:
GONYK wrote:
13th Man wrote:I'm getting tired of idiot media members trying to spin Lin's contract making it seem as though he has to live up to expectations of a 15M/yr player. Logically, spread over 3 years he is really a 8M/yr player but they seem to keep ignoring the fact that he's only making 5M each for the first 2 years.

SAS has been pullling the same bs but stretching it even further to make it seem as though Lin will be a 30M player.

Not only that, but we have 2 full seasons where we are paying him $5M/yr to evaluate whether or not he is worth that third season.

Where is the risk?

risk is

Lin not wanting to play here because of all the drama... from the media, owner, and players

I want him as far away from the New York Media... so SAS can only biatch about Lin 2 times a year when the Rox and Knicks meet up...

sorry to the Knicks fans that want him here, and have to put up with the drama.... to the haters they should be happy if Lin goes...

Save your histrionics

I'm only interested in speaking to the logic of the situation.

tim2nyy · Post #956 » by **tim2nyy** » Tue Jul 17, 2012 4:04 pm

Falstaffxx wrote:
Red Vines wrote:I apologize if anyone construed that joke as racist, it was not meant as that.

"You're sorry if anyone construed it that way?" What a fake apology. Can we just stop.

Weren't you the guy telling everyone not to be offended by that 9/11 comment yesterday?

Red Vines · Post #957 » by **Red Vines** » Tue Jul 17, 2012 4:04 pm

Falstaffxx wrote:
Red Vines wrote:I apologize if anyone construed that joke as racist, it was not meant as that.

"You're sorry if anyone construed it that way?" What a fake apology. Can we just stop.

Yes, people misread it but since I made the joke I'm responsible for putting it out there. I apologize for that.

Knicks80_20 · Post #958 » by **Knicks80_20** » Tue Jul 17, 2012 4:04 pm

Red Vines wrote:I apologize if anyone construed that joke as racist, it was not meant as that.

It's all good, brotha.

AmazingJason · Post #959 » by **AmazingJason** » Tue Jul 17, 2012 4:04 pm

Dantares wrote:I am sick of the Rockets always owning us in trades. Just match the offer to screw them over so they stay in mediocre zone and get another lotto pick in the 10-14 range again.

To be honest, we should refuse to deal with Morey anymore. I'm sick and tired of him making us his b*tch.

waya · Post #960 » by **waya** » Tue Jul 17, 2012 4:04 pm

Is there any way we can keep Lin but all the Lin bandwagoners can go jump off a cliff?