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Official Speculation Thread (Pt.XXXIX Off-Season Edition)

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Re: Official Speculation Thread (Pt.XXXIX Off-Season Edition 

Post#1341 » by Skin » Tue Jul 17, 2012 7:20 pm

backasswards wrote:Thankfully this board has several talented scouts, CBA experts, accountants and attorneys that can really share their knowledge on the current trade scenarios.

Unfortunately, the mods have failed to establish a thread that is stickied where all fake and ridiculous trade proposals can be discussed, so this one suffers from being so innundated with them. It is what it is.
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Re: Official Speculation Thread (Pt.XXXIX Off-Season Edition 

Post#1342 » by TheMagicOne » Tue Jul 17, 2012 7:20 pm

http://espn.go.com/video/clip?id=8174284

listen to ESPN LA reporter saying BYNUM & GASOL
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Re: Official Speculation Thread (Pt.XXXIX Off-Season Edition 

Post#1343 » by Ahmadab » Tue Jul 17, 2012 7:22 pm

cvMagic wrote:
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Nice to see there are some Magic fans who see we can get Bynum and still build a solid team around him at the same time.
It doesn't have to be an either / or.


Bynum couldn't play and integral role in a championship team, even with a perimeter player like Kobe, and a partner in the post like Gasol. You guys want to pair him up with someone like Ellis in Orlando and expect to win a championship ? please.


Hate to be mean on the boards, but that comment is a little ignorant on your part. Bynum was 21 in that first Finals and still very much a work in progress.

He was a project player when he was drafted, the kind of guy we hear about every year but almost never pans out. Except this guy did... under the tutelage of the Zen master and his staff. Two years ago he started to blossom, and last year he finally put it all together.

And last time I checked, the Lakers won 2 titles with him. He's 24 and been posting near double-doubles on a championship caliber team for 5 seasons now. You can count on your hands the number of times in NBA history that a center that young and promising has been available.

Unfortunately,most of those occurrences involve the magic.


Don't worry buddy, i respect all feedback, but look > as you said, Bynum was still young when the Lakers won their first two championships, which is why i said that he never played an integral role on a championship team, but then he improved, and the team's core stayed the same, why couldn't they go back and win it all with a new and improved Bynum ? He's been locked up by Tyson Chandler and Kendrick Perkins in two straight playoffs now, doesn't scream dominant offensive bigman to me. Tyson is a great, great defender, but judging by the credit you guys give him he should've annihilated Tyson. Also, this is now a guard's league, no longer do you need a dominant big to win a championship. We need to rebuild, get the best combination of picks/young players/cap relief that we can from Houston and hope everything pans out in order to draft Shabbazz. I have high hopes about that guy. Really think he can be a difference maker, add to that another lottery pick (toronto) damn son, rebuilding on the fly. Counter that with Bynum, Ellis/Iggy and solid to good role players. I think i chose the group of young athletic players that will grow together and form a great team over
the nothing more than solid 1-2 punch formed by Bynum/Ellis.
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Re: Official Speculation Thread (Pt.XXXIX Off-Season Edition 

Post#1344 » by eyriq » Tue Jul 17, 2012 7:25 pm

Get me Bynum, Hennigan! Do it! Going from Dwight to Bynum at least allows me to go a little like this:

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Re: Official Speculation Thread (Pt.XXXIX Off-Season Edition 

Post#1345 » by Skin » Tue Jul 17, 2012 7:29 pm

You don't need a dominant Center to win a championship in the NBA.
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Re: Official Speculation Thread (Pt.XXXIX Off-Season Edition 

Post#1346 » by Cammo101 » Tue Jul 17, 2012 7:30 pm

I do not want Bynum and Gasol. Flip Gasol to Houston for Lamb, Parsons and Martin if we are going this route.
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Post#1347 » by Br0ken_Sp0ke » Tue Jul 17, 2012 7:31 pm

I really hope that Lakers rumor has legs, but if Bynum's approval is needed that's probably going to be tough to get...
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Re: Official Speculation Thread (Pt.XXXIX Off-Season Edition 

Post#1348 » by ThatFloridaDude » Tue Jul 17, 2012 7:31 pm

TheMagicOne wrote:BTW - Bynum 24 years old, Nicholson 22 y.o., O'Quinn 22 y.o., Ayon 27 y.o. wtf?

This would be our front court rotation for many many years if we could get Bynum long term.

Now add Ellis possibly to the mix 26 years old. And there you have a team to grow together for 5 to 7 years minimum.


100%. I don't think people are looking at the Big picture with Bynum. his ceiling is limitless right now as well as our young bigs we drafted or traded as you mention. people Forget LA's front court killed us just like Bostons. People forget this year we had front front court play and split two games with the heat. The front court is by far the most difficult parts of basketball to build a complete system around and with Bynum and our young bigs we can do that.
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Re: Official Speculation Thread (Pt.XXXIX Off-Season Edition 

Post#1349 » by Br0ken_Sp0ke » Tue Jul 17, 2012 7:32 pm

You guys have some weird ideas about how much Houston "covets" Gasol. We don't want him, especially not for these terrible trade scenarios where we're giving up even more than we did last year...
baki wrote:Robinson and Olajuwon are about equal, but I'd give Robinson the edge for being far more critical to the team's success than Olajuwon was.

baki wrote:I'm not sure if Harden is really that much better than Lin.

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Re: Official Speculation Thread (Pt.XXXIX Off-Season Edition 

Post#1350 » by Ahmadab » Tue Jul 17, 2012 7:33 pm

Skin wrote:You don't need a dominant Center to win a championship in the NBA.


Pretty much this.
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Re: Official Speculation Thread (Pt.XXXIX Off-Season Edition 

Post#1351 » by ThatFloridaDude » Tue Jul 17, 2012 7:34 pm

TheMagicOne wrote:http://espn.go.com/video/clip?id=8174284

listen to ESPN LA reporter saying BYNUM & GASOL

What would we do with Gasol since HOU or ORL doesn't want him?
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Post#1352 » by jezzer45 » Tue Jul 17, 2012 7:34 pm

ThatFloridaDude wrote:
TheMagicOne wrote:BTW - Bynum 24 years old, Nicholson 22 y.o., O'Quinn 22 y.o., Ayon 27 y.o. wtf?

This would be our front court rotation for many many years if we could get Bynum long term.

Now add Ellis possibly to the mix 26 years old. And there you have a team to grow together for 5 to 7 years minimum.


100%. I don't think people are looking at the Big picture with Bynum. his ceiling is limitless right now as well as our young bigs we drafted or traded as you mention. people Forget LA's front court killed us just like Bostons. People forget this year we had front front court play and split two games with the heat. The front court is by far the most difficult parts of basketball to build a complete system around and with Bynum and our young bigs we can do that.


not to disagree with you but to me nelson was the reason why the magic beat the heat last year (preseason and regular)
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Re: Official Speculation Thread (Pt.XXXIX Off-Season Edition 

Post#1353 » by Ahmadab » Tue Jul 17, 2012 7:34 pm

Cammo101 wrote:I do not want Bynum and Gasol. Flip Gasol to Houston for Lamb, Parsons and Martin if we are going this route.


PEOPLE STOP SAYING FLIP GASOL TO HOUSTON OMG
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Re: Official Speculation Thread (Pt.XXXIX Off-Season Edition 

Post#1354 » by Orlando Tragic » Tue Jul 17, 2012 7:34 pm

rcklsscognition wrote:Eye on Basketball ‏@EyeOnBasketball

Report: Lakers meeting with Magic about Dwight Howard today. http://cbsprt.co/Nfx17v Key phrase is "pushing hard" here.

I didn't think this was an official meeting. I don't see how signing Humphries to a contract makes the NJ deal amazing all of a sudden. Why wasn't that on the table during our discussions with the Nets last week?


I don't think he realizes Lopez and Humphries can't be traded until Jan.
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Re: Official Speculation Thread (Pt.XXXIX Off-Season Edition 

Post#1355 » by Skin » Tue Jul 17, 2012 7:35 pm

Br0ken_Sp0ke wrote:I really hope that Lakers rumor has legs, but if Bynum's approval is needed that's probably going to be tough to get...

Why would it be tough to get? He hates LA.
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Re: Official Speculation Thread (Pt.XXXIX Off-Season Edition 

Post#1356 » by Br0ken_Sp0ke » Tue Jul 17, 2012 7:36 pm

Ahmadab wrote:
Cammo101 wrote:I do not want Bynum and Gasol. Flip Gasol to Houston for Lamb, Parsons and Martin if we are going this route.


PEOPLE STOP SAYING FLIP GASOL TO HOUSTON OMG


You're my new favorite poster.
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Re: Official Speculation Thread (Pt.XXXIX Off-Season Edition 

Post#1357 » by Blue_and_Whte » Tue Jul 17, 2012 7:37 pm

Skin wrote:You don't need a dominant Center to win a championship in the NBA.

Damn it...I've now agreed with two of skins posts...in one day!!

Why do people think we have to have a back to the basket dominant center when clearly the trend has shifted to a perimeter oriented game? Just because Dwight was one doesn't mean thats what we HAVE to get in return.
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Re: Official Speculation Thread (Pt.XXXIX Off-Season Edition 

Post#1358 » by OrlandoMajinBuu » Tue Jul 17, 2012 7:37 pm

Ahmadab wrote:
Skin wrote:You don't need a dominant Center to win a championship in the NBA.


Pretty much this.


But you will need a defensive team and commitment.
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Re: Official Speculation Thread (Pt.XXXIX Off-Season Edition 

Post#1359 » by SEBAS-07 » Tue Jul 17, 2012 7:37 pm

I`m not a cap guru but I think Howard and Bynum can make the most money by becoming free agents in 2013 and resigning with the teams who hold their bird rights.
Smart / Micic / D. Wright
Wiggins / Exum / J. Adams
Parker / K. Anderson / Mcdermott
Randle / Vonleh / Stokes
Embiid / Nurkic/ Tavares
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Re: Official Speculation Thread (Pt.XXXIX Off-Season Edition 

Post#1360 » by rcklsscognition » Tue Jul 17, 2012 7:38 pm

Ahmadab wrote:
Skin wrote:You don't need a dominant Center to win a championship in the NBA.


Pretty much this.


Been saying this all along since well into last year. You need a talented wing these days.

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